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This week, the Vols have a timely off week, falling neatly in the middle of the season. This week, let's see how our units have graded since the beginning of the year. Everyone was encouraged by the team's performance last week, but this evaluation will be based on the whole body of work so far this year.

Quarterback: D+


So far, we have seen two quarterbacks for the Vols. Nathan Peterman probably had the worst first half in the history of Vol quarterbacks, and broke his hand in the process against Florida.

Justin Worley has been wildly inaccurate, unsettled, and displayed subpar arm strength. On the plus side, he has mostly taken care of the ball (except Fl and USA), had flashes of competence, and has occasionally thrown a nice ball.

Before Georgia, this was looking to be a D-, but a gutsy performance by Worley gives hope for rest of the season. We hoped he would be an effective game manager. If he can duplicate his second half Georgia performance for the rest of the season, he will be doing pretty good. 111th nationally in passing isn't the Tennessee standard however, so the quarterbacks get a D+

Worley 940 yd, 55.8% comp, 9 TD, 6 INT

Running backs: B

With our Quarterbacks struggling, our Running backs have done an admirable job with the dirty work on the ground. The Vols are currently 32nd in the country, averaging 211 yards rushing. Neal and Lane have had solid seasons, while the third string and below have chipped in for a little yardage fodder.

Lane continues to struggle with little nagging injuries (ankle), but runs hard when he is in. Neal, often chided for his lack of vision, and tendency to turn it to the outside has recently come on strong, running with power and determination. If Neal continues at this pace, he will have one of the better seasons for a running back in Tennessee history. Neither of them rank in the upper echelon of individual talent however, but their production and improvement earn them a B.

Neal 616 yd, 5.7 ypc, 7 td
Lane 280 yd, 6.2 ypc, 4 td

Offensive Line: B+

Before the season, many publications and websites had Tennessee's offensive line as a top 2 in the nation. They have been very good, but not elite in my opinion. So far, they have yielded 7 sacks, while Worley has often felt pressure in the pocket. However, they also share the credit on TN's 1,266 rushing yards. The seasoned offensive line scores a B+.

Tight ends: B

Our tight ends have mostly been used as blockers, tallying just 10 catches on the year. Several of those 10 catches have been big ones, resulting in 3 touchdowns and key late down conversions. Brendan Downs leads the way, and true freshman AJ Branisel has shown a lot of promise for the future. Both have shown soft, reliable hands. They score a B.

Wide Receivers: C

Volnation loves to pile on Worley for his inaccurate throws. Coach Jones often defends him, saying the receivers are not running routes correctly. I'll go with the boss on this one, since not a single one of us know what an assignment or route depth is on any given play.

The receivers have had a number of drops, and no one has displayed game breaking ability, although Pig has come on strong recently. In fact, many of the receivers have been improving in recent games, but based on production so far, they get a C. WRU is used to having a couple of guys with 400+ yards at this point in the season.

Pig 15 ca, 218 yd, 2 td
North 18 ca, 179 yd, 1 td
Smith 10 ca, 164 yd, 1 td
Croom 8 ca, 110 yd, 1 td

Kicking/Punting: A+

Palardy takes the field... and Volnation collectively relaxes. No one would have thought this was possible after watching the previous 3 seasons, but Palardy has been exceptional. He is 12th in the nation with a 45.7 average and a long of 59. Only 2.5 yards per punt separate him from the top and 5 of the guys in front of him have comically long punts of between 71 and 84 yards, under who knows what kind of circumstances, to aid their averages.

For field goals, he is 5/6 on the year, and 25/25 on PAT. I didn't see it, but I understand his lone miss on the field goal was somehow blocked by his holder. Palardy gets an A+. Tyler Drummer gets a C.... just because of that.

Defensive Line: C

The defensive line has had a fair season, but has not generated enough pressure on the QB, nor have they sealed the edges on containment. Couch's suspension and the various injuries have limited effectiveness as well. Big Dan shows flashes, but he is not a destroyer of worlds. The defense if giving up 175.7 yards per game on the ground, which is not impressive by any stretch of the imagination. They are playing better than some of our previous seasons, and without a true star in the midst, so they get a C

Linebackers: C
AJ Johnson has continued to amass a large amount of tackles, but has not displayed the type of speed nor ferocity you would like to see, often times grabbing and slinging the ball carrier as opposed to driving them through the earth. His most recent game was his finest, and we can hope that he "gets it" and will continue to attack in the same way. Sapp has shown his worth, always being around the ball carrier, and Brent Brewer has provided a nice change of pace, displaying speed, and crushing things not wearing orange. Tennessee needs to get the same type of athletes we won championships with back in orange, but this group has played hard and earns a C.

Secondary: B

The secondary is tricky. Part A+, part D. Cam Sutton has been lights out, and as a whole, the defensive backs have picked off 11 passes, taking a couple back to the house, just for kicks and giggles. Brian Randolph and LaDarrel McNeil have been solid in the back, though each has had their missed angles that have been embarrassing touchdowns. Justin Coleman has struggled, often not turning to find the ball (but screwed over on the PI call vs. UGA). The supporting cast has not been terrible, but you can tell we are missing the athletes needed to shut down the passing game and to release the dogs on the DL.

Return Game: C-

A whole lot of average on returns. Vincent Dallas has held on to the ball, but has not done a whole lot more. Jacob Carter probably leads the nation in fair catches, but I'm not going to look it up. I'll be happy to see DY get back in there and at least pick up 7 a pop.

Kick Coverage: B

Coverage began really dicey, but has steadily increased. Jalen Reeves-Maybin has been using the field as his playground on coverage. It's like throwing a ball, and then trying to keep your dog from going after it. Joker. UGA was getting mauled on returns. They tried to switch it up with another guy, and he promptly got blasted for a bigger loss. The blocked punt against UGA had wives hushing their husbands for thousands of miles around, and husbands not hearing a word they were saying as they danced in tighty whiteys.

Coaching: C +

80% of y'all just got pissed off. Listen, some of our defensive and offensive playcalling has been flat out bad. There are 100 reasons, (new schemes, new QB, slot receivers out, Oregon, etc.) I get it. But from what we've seen, there has been some questionable calls from the booth. The UGA game was well called. Whether that is the coordinators learning and adjusting to the conference, or the team finally beginning to click, I don't know, but if they continue to play to that level, this grade will be much higher at the end of the year.

The players love Butch Jones. He can recruit a little too. We don't even need to discuss that. He has brought the team together like they have not been in years, and the future is bright. It's just a matter of time until it begins to click on the field, week in and week out.
 
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Enjoyed the thread. Please do one at the end of the season and attach this one so we can hopefully see improved grades at the QB, WR, and DL positions especially.
 
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Fair assessment Nick! Good work. What would your grade for recruiting be, and your thoughts on that?
 
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Quarterback: D+ agreed but optimistic of improvement

Running backs: B agreed, maybe a B+ for ball security
Offensive Line: B+ If the scoring is for an SEC O line, then I'd go C+ / B-. they'e done fine but not nearly as well as I expected.

Tight ends: B Your most confusing score. C at best in my book

Wide Receivers: C C- to date but again optimistic for improvement

Kicking/Punting: A+ Palardy tcouldn't be doing much better.

Defensive Line: C Again, an average SEC unit at best. DE's regularly loose containment. Big Dan has not been the constant disruptive force expected. Like you I'd go C.

Linebackers: C agree

Secondary: B Interceptions get them the B. Without the turn overs they're a C

Return Game: C- B- due to ball security and not letting a bunch of punts hit the ground.

Kick Coverage: B agree

Coaching: C + A for changing the attitudes of the players. Would be an A+ except for the Peterman disaster. Shouldn't have pulled the plug on Worley so quickly.
 
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Fair assessment Nick! Good work. What would your grade for recruiting be, and your thoughts on that?

Recruiting: A+

Many doubted Butch's ability to recruit in the south, especially after he brought the bulk of his Cincinnati staff with him. One legendary Volnation thread aimed to remind him that he wasn't recruiting Cincinnati level players anymore. His move to snatch up recently disposed of Tommy Thigpen and Willie Martinez of Auburn was nothing short of brilliant, and each have shown their worth on the recruiting trail.

The fact is, no one in the country is as hot on the recruiting trail as Butch Jones and company, and that's with 2 straight losing seasons, and a less than stellar product on the field. His energy, commitment and genuine care for people has him taking over the rapidly increasing talent level of the state, as well as making in roads into Georgia and other key areas.

The question is not, "Can Butch Jones recruit?" The quesion is, "How crazy is it going to get once he has a top 10 program on the field?"
 
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Good post. Nick, I would like to see an end of the year assesment as well for comparison.
 
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I'll try to bump it for an end of year as well.

Like I said, this is the mid season comprehensive grade. Most of these go up for the UGA game, and I hope we get that effort/performance the rest of the way. If so, we may very well finish with 4-5 more victories. If not, 2-3.
 
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Great post and I agree with most everything. Thanks for the work.

One correction.... "Brian Coleman"
 
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Still can't believe how Palardy has really come into his own and become and exceptional kicker. You could argue he's the MVP so far with his impact in field position.
 
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Still can't believe how Palardy has really come into his own and become and exceptional kicker. You could argue he's the MVP so far with his impact in field position.

Great story of a potential bust who redeemed themselves their senior year.

Crompton
Palardy
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Great stuff!..Let the debate...later rednecks
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Spot on junkie. Impressive breakdown of the season. AJ is beasting but like you said, he needs to start punishing a ball carrier to the ground instead of pushing them to the ground. Great defensive players play nasty, not dirty, but nasty hard. Sutton & McNeil play nasty hard. Big Dan is finding his groove. It took him a few games last season to find his groove but I think as we play through October, opposing teams will find getting yards up the gut tough going. Great Work Nick, appreciate the post. :hi:
 
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I actually agree with the coaching score at least on the Offensive side. I would maybe grade the defensive side as a B-.
 
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Did everyone think that this coaching staff was going to turn this team into a SEC contender within one year? If not, then why are they only getting a grade of B or B+? This team is making progress in every unit. The special teams are playing lights out. CBJ told us why they hadn't opened up the play book until last week...the players weren't executing in practice. I give this staff an A- at the worst right now. Hats off to them for changing the culture and losing attitude with this program in a VERY short time period.
 
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Great review as always Nick.

I agree on most parts. I do think coaching is probably a solid B though. The improvement on the defensive side alone calls for that, imo, but I've seen improvement each week from everyone on the field. Even Worley was looking a little bit better by the FL game 2nd half. The USA game, I think he would've looked a lot better, but his WRs really let him down. And of course we all saw the huge leaps he took against UGA. Same with the WRs.

Palardy has been incredible for us this year. With the offense struggling he's been able to keep us in games by winning the field position battle. Wish we could've seen that blocked kick fly because I think he would've nailed it.
 
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This week, the Vols have a timely off week, falling neatly in the middle of the season. This week, let's see how our units have graded since the beginning of the year. Everyone was encouraged by the team's performance last week, but this evaluation will be based on the whole body of work so far this year.

Quarterback: D+


So far, we have seen two quarterbacks for the Vols. Nathan Peterman probably had the worst first half in the history of Vol quarterbacks, and broke his hand in the process against Florida.

Justin Worley has been wildly inaccurate, unsettled, and displayed subpar arm strength. On the plus side, he has mostly taken care of the ball (except Fl and USA), had flashes of competence, and has occasionally thrown a nice ball.

Before Georgia, this was looking to be a D-, but a gutsy performance by Worley gives hope for rest of the season. We hoped he would be an effective game manager. If he can duplicate his second half Georgia performance for the rest of the season, he will be doing pretty good. 111th nationally in passing isn't the Tennessee standard however, so the quarterbacks get a D+

Worley 940 yd, 55.8% comp, 9 TD, 6 INT

Running backs: B

With our Quarterbacks struggling, our Running backs have done an admirable job with the dirty work on the ground. The Vols are currently 32nd in the country, averaging 211 yards rushing. Neal and Lane have had solid seasons, while the third string and below have chipped in for a little yardage fodder.

Lane continues to struggle with little nagging injuries (ankle), but runs hard when he is in. Neal, often chided for his lack of vision, and tendency to turn it to the outside has recently come on strong, running with power and determination. If Neal continues at this pace, he will have one of the better seasons for a running back in Tennessee history. Neither of them rank in the upper echelon of individual talent however, but their production and improvement earn them a B.

Neal 616 yd, 5.7 ypc, 7 td
Lane 280 yd, 6.2 ypc, 4 td

Offensive Line: B+

Before the season, many publications and websites had Tennessee's offensive line as a top 2 in the nation. They have been very good, but not elite in my opinion. So far, they have yielded 7 sacks, while Worley has often felt pressure in the pocket. However, they also share the credit on TN's 1,266 rushing yards. The seasoned offensive line scores a B+.

Tight ends: B

Our tight ends have mostly been used as blockers, tallying just 10 catches on the year. Several of those 10 catches have been big ones, resulting in 3 touchdowns and key late down conversions. Brendan Downs leads the way, and true freshman AJ Branisel has shown a lot of promise for the future. Both have shown soft, reliable hands. They score a B.

Wide Receivers: C

Volnation loves to pile on Worley for his inaccurate throws. Coach Jones often defends him, saying the receivers are not running routes correctly. I'll go with the boss on this one, since not a single one of us know what an assignment or route depth is on any given play.

The receivers have had a number of drops, and no one has displayed game breaking ability, although Pig has come on strong recently. In fact, many of the receivers have been improving in recent games, but based on production so far, they get a C. WRU is used to having a couple of guys with 400+ yards at this point in the season.

Pig 15 ca, 218 yd, 2 td
North 18 ca, 179 yd, 1 td
Smith 10 ca, 164 yd, 1 td
Croom 8 ca, 110 yd, 1 td

Kicking/Punting: A+

Palardy takes the field... and Volnation collectively relaxes. No one would have thought this was possible after watching the previous 3 seasons, but Palardy has been exceptional. He is 12th in the nation with a 45.7 average and a long of 59. Only 2.5 yards per punt separate him from the top and 5 of the guys in front of him have comically long punts of between 71 and 84 yards, under who knows what kind of circumstances, to aid their averages.

For field goals, he is 5/6 on the year, and 25/25 on PAT. I didn't see it, but I understand his lone miss on the field goal was somehow blocked by his holder. Palardy gets an A+. Tyler Drummer gets a C.... just because of that.

Defensive Line: C

The defensive line has had a fair season, but has not generated enough pressure on the QB, nor have they sealed the edges on containment. Couch's suspension and the various injuries have limited effectiveness as well. Big Dan shows flashes, but he is not a destroyer of worlds. The defense if giving up 175.7 yards per game on the ground, which is not impressive by any stretch of the imagination. They are playing better than some of our previous seasons, and without a true star in the midst, so they get a C

Linebackers: C
AJ Johnson has continued to amass a large amount of tackles, but has not displayed the type of speed nor ferocity you would like to see, often times grabbing and slinging the ball carrier as opposed to driving them through the earth. His most recent game was his finest, and we can hope that he "gets it" and will continue to attack in the same way. Sapp has shown his worth, always being around the ball carrier, and Brent Brewer has provided a nice change of pace, displaying speed, and crushing things not wearing orange. Tennessee needs to get the same type of athletes we won championships with back in orange, but this group has played hard and earns a C.

Secondary: B

The secondary is tricky. Part A+, part D. Cam Sutton has been lights out, and as a whole, the defensive backs have picked off 11 passes, taking a couple back to the house, just for kicks and giggles. Brian Randolph and LaDarrel McNeil have been solid in the back, though each has had their missed angles that have been embarrassing touchdowns. Justin Coleman has struggled, often not turning to find the ball (but screwed over on the PI call vs. UGA). The supporting cast has not been terrible, but you can tell we are missing the athletes needed to shut down the passing game and to release the dogs on the DL.

Return Game: C-

A whole lot of average on returns. Vincent Dallas has held on to the ball, but has not done a whole lot more. Jacob Carter probably leads the nation in fair catches, but I'm not going to look it up. I'll be happy to see DY get back in there and at least pick up 7 a pop.

Kick Coverage: B

Coverage began really dicey, but has steadily increased. Jalen Reeves-Maybin has been using the field as his playground on coverage. It's like throwing a ball, and then trying to keep your dog from going after it. Joker. UGA was getting mauled on returns. They tried to switch it up with another guy, and he promptly got blasted for a bigger loss. The blocked punt against UGA had wives hushing their husbands for thousands of miles around, and husbands not hearing a word they were saying as they danced in tighty whiteys.

Coaching: C +

80% of y'all just got pissed off. Listen, some of our defensive and offensive playcalling has been flat out bad. There are 100 reasons, (new schemes, new QB, slot receivers out, Oregon, etc.) I get it. But from what we've seen, there has been some questionable calls from the booth. The UGA game was well called. Whether that is the coordinators learning and adjusting to the conference, or the team finally beginning to click, I don't know, but if they continue to play to that level, this grade will be much higher at the end of the year.

The players love Butch Jones. He can recruit a little too. We don't even need to discuss that. He has brought the team together like they have not been in years, and the future is bright. It's just a matter of time until it begins to click on the field, week in and week out.

Enjoyed the thread. Please do one at the end of the season and attach this one so we can hopefully see improved grades at the QB, WR, and DL positions especially.

Ok, I said I would do a post season update. This is not for the second half of the season, but the season in it's entirety. The previous analysis was given between the UGA and USC games. I won't be as in depth, but here goes.

Quarterback: D+ Our situation at QB did not really improve. The brutal schedule is mostly to blame. Worley got a win at USC, then got injured, Dobbs had his flashes, and added to the run game, but never showed consistency. Typical freshman struggles.

Running Backs: B- The team rushed for over 2,000 yards, with Neal gaining over 1,000. Neal and Lane averaged 5.2 and 5.3 YPC respectively. Sometimes, they just couldn't get the needed yards on 3rd down, putting the pressure back on the defense. The AL and Mizzou games were not kind.

Offensive Line: C Let's be honest... the "strongest" unit on our team had some problems with the strongest opponents. An ok performance on the season, but many of us were expecting the best line in the country, and that, it was not.

Wide Receivers: C- North came on big. Pig had his moments, but his fumble against UGA and block in the back against Vandy, negating the TD, count against the unit significantly. Pig also disappeared for huge portions at a time. During 5 games, he had a grand total of 56 yards. Your #2 guy has to do more, and the coaches are partly responsible here. Josh Smith continued to drop everything, and Croom pitched in with some nice catches, but hasn't yet reached the level we are hoping for. He still has time. The weakness of the unit was illustrated after North was injured.

Kicking/Punting: B+
Palardy drops his average a little bit on the season with his weak Vandy performance. Yes, today was beautiful, but he also missed a PAT. Great season for MP1.

Defensive Line: C+ I feel like the DL improved a bit in the second half of the season. Jacques Smith's INT for 6 and Corey Miller's 4.5 sacks today were great moments. McCullers never realized his full potential. Walls had flashes, and so did Hood.

Linebackers: C AJ Johnson began to play with a bit more violence, but Brewer began to regress a bit after a solid first half to the season. Sapp quietly had a solid season, averaging 5.5 tackles per game.

Secondary C: Cam Sutton did his thing, and no complaints there, but the interceptions began to dry up in the second half of the season, and we were often exposed with our lack of speed, poor angles, and poor coverage. Randolph and Sutton had a good season, though Randolph as by no means perfect, but we need speedy help in a hurry for the rest.

Return Game: C Devrin returned in the second half of the season, and took care of the ball, but did not take one to the house. My previous analysis said I would be happy to see Jacob Carter stop fair catching the ball and for Young to get his 7 yards per return. He ended up averaging 7.8 :) On kick-offs, he averaged 25.9. A whole lot of average, but at least he's somewhat consistent.

Kick Coverage: C A pretty good performance by our coverage teams this season, but that Auburn game...

Coaching: C Folks didn't like my grade last time, let's see how they like it now... There were entire games where the offensive game plan seemed like it had 0 continuity. Yes, we had to break in a new QB, but then wouldn't you lean on the running game more? Mizzou and Auburn were maddening games. Then, the fake FG against Vandy...

On defense, we never could handle a QB with legs, except Connor Shaw, who really isn't as mobile as his reputation suggests. We gave up an average of 39 PPG against ranked opponents. Jancek needs to figure some things out.

Butch kept the team motivated and focused through the season, though sometimes they lacked intensity, they seemed to give the effort. With no bowl game to play for today, the team came out and did it's job, and that is a testament to the coaching staff. I anticipate that the coaches will be much improved next season after getting "broken in" to SEC football, and that the new influx of talent will keep us on the right track. :hi:
 
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