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My first time starting a game thread, so here goes. Some key questions this week:

1. How will the team respond after our performance at Oregon? Under Dooley, this could be bad news bears, but how will a Jones-coached team respond?

2. How will the offensive line respond as well? They have been glorified the entire offseason but Oregon was rough. Can our RBs help them out?

3. Will the Dline injuries really take a toll on us? Can Big Dan make strides? How about some young players like Danny O'Brien?

4. Who will play QB for the Vols? Will we see multiple QBs in multiple formations, or will we still have Worley leading the way?

5. Related to 4., what will our passing game look like?

6. Concerning Florida, will Driskell play? Can we stop Burton? Can we run on their D? How significant will the pass be for us against that D?

Running is probably going to be tough against these guys. We will definitely have to step it up in the passing game. Our defense will also have to shut down the run and the misdirections. We have a tendency of making these guys look like Heisman candidates. Also, I for one would like to see us go with some wildcat and multiple QBs to add in some different plays.

Enjoy Florida Week and Go Vols!
 
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My first time starting a game thread, so here goes. Some key questions this week:

1. How will the team respond after our performance at Oregon? Under Dooley, this could be bad news bears, but how will a Jones-coached team respond?

2. How will the offensive line respond as well? They have been glorified the entire offseason but Oregon was rough. Can our RBs help them out?

3. Will the Dline injuries really take a toll on us? Can Big Dan make strides? How about some young players like Danny O'Brien?

4. Who will play QB for the Vols? Will we see multiple QBs in multiple formations, or will we still have Worley leading the way?

5. Related to 4., what will our passing game look like?

6. Concerning Florida, will Driskell play? Can we stop Burton? Can we run on their D? How significant will the pass be for us against that D?

Running is probably going to be tough against these guys. We will definitely have to step it up in the passing game. Our defense will also have to shut down the run and the misdirections. We have a tendency of making these guys look like Heisman candidates. Also, I for one would like to see us go with some wildcat and multiple QBs to add in some different plays.

Enjoy Florida Week and Go Vols!







Another question. I heard on the radio this morning that the team had a "players only" meeting, is this true and if so has anyone heard what happened?
 
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Not going to answer all the questions, but I think Peterman get the start, North has his first TD, Croom steps up at key moments, defense plays much better, and Vols win 24-20.
 
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Yeah, questions are just meant to stimulate conversation until the game and/or other developments, so feel free to contribute whatever you may. Hopefully no Maurice Couch-esque news comes out this week to change the dynamics of this game for us.
 
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Another question. I heard on the radio this morning that the team had a "players only" meeting, is this true and if so has anyone heard what happened?

It's true. The veterans called a meeting for Sunday afternoon to make sure everyone forgets the Oregon loss and focuses on UF and doesn't lose confidence.
 
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I think this will be a good game. Not sure we win but I think our defense will match up better against the sec than we did against Oregon.
 
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Not going to answer all the questions, but I think Peterman get the start, North has his first TD, Croom steps up at key moments, defense plays much better, and Vols win 24-20.

I don't think a freshman qb hits the field this year. i say Peterman starts or Worley starts this week and Peterman gets a tune up game with S Alabama before things get rough.
 
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Bottom line… We have to run the football for more yards than Florida does. This stat pops up every year and a high percentage of the time determines who wins this football game. I believe it will determine who wins the game again this year.
 
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My first time starting a game thread, so here goes. Some key questions this week:

1. How will the team respond after our performance at Oregon? Under Dooley, this could be bad news bears, but how will a Jones-coached team respond?

2. How will the offensive line respond as well? They have been glorified the entire offseason but Oregon was rough. Can our RBs help them out?

3. Will the Dline injuries really take a toll on us? Can Big Dan make strides? How about some young players like Danny O'Brien?

4. Who will play QB for the Vols? Will we see multiple QBs in multiple formations, or will we still have Worley leading the way?

5. Related to 4., what will our passing game look like?

6. Concerning Florida, will Driskell play? Can we stop Burton? Can we run on their D? How significant will the pass be for us against that D?

Running is probably going to be tough against these guys. We will definitely have to step it up in the passing game. Our defense will also have to shut down the run and the misdirections. We have a tendency of making these guys look like Heisman candidates. Also, I for one would like to see us go with some wildcat and multiple QBs to add in some different plays.

Enjoy Florida Week and Go Vols!

1.) I'm interested to see how they respond as well. I think the players having a meeting could mean they aren't accepting excuses.

2.) I think the O-line will respond well for three reasons: 1. The all have a chance at the NFL and a bad performance this fall lowwers their draft stock costing them money. 2. Their all upper classmen that have yet to win an important game. I'm sure that eats at them. 3. I can't see Butch not correcting the O-line woes. Everyone knows they're the best part of our team, and more should be expected of them.

3.) I'm worried about DT. Big Dan and Hood will have to be huge in this game to stop Florida's run game. They're the only 2 DT's with any experience. After that there's only O'brien and Wall's. Florida is a smash mouth team if they can wear out our first team D then its game over.

4.) This is the biggest question/concern I have. I think Worley will get nod, but he will have a very short leash. After that it's anyone's guess as to who goes in first.

5.) To quote Butch Jones "Change can be bad, or change can be great." I think one of three things will happen. 1. Worley's competitive nature comes out and he steps up hitting open recievers and making some plays with his feet. 2. Worley gives up. 3. Someone else plays QB at some point in the game. And either takes the job away from Worley or makes Volnation scream that we need to recruit a better QB.

6.) Here's the key to the whole game. If we can stop Florida's running game enough to put driskel in passing situations then we have a chance. If we can't do that then we lose for sure.

It's going to be a battle of the trenches if we can run the ball, then set up the pass and stop them from running and make them pass. We win.
 
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The Vols return from the land of the Ducks to the not so friendly confines of Florida Field. Oregon gave Tennessee the worst beating in 100 years, in a game where it seem very little went right after the first offensive series. Butch will hope the team is able to learn from their mistakes, and quickly put them behind them as the men in Orange open SEC play.

Florida and Alabama sit alone on top of the mountain of who Vol fans would most like to beat each year, though many will argue which team comes first, few will dispute these are "the big 2". Sorry UGA, you are a close 3rd. Beat one of them, and it can be considered "a good year". Beat both, and Vol fans wear silly grins for an entire year, and the birth rate goes up in a slight, but measurable way in Big Orange Country.

Florida sits at 1-1, after giving the game to Miami with an orange and green bow on top. Although many predicted this game would be a Miami upset, and were correct, it was not because Miami outplayed the Gators. Take a look at these stats:


FLA MIA
1st Downs 22 10
Total Yards 413 212
Passing 291 162
Rushing 122 50
3rd Down Con 6-15 1-11
Turnovers 5 1
Possession 38:20 21:40

It's not like the Hurricanes dominated the game. You would be hard pressed to find another team who has won a game this season, only converting 1 3rd down in the entire game. Turnovers absolutely killed the Gators, and it is not a series of blunders they are likely to repeat.

Keys to the game:

1. Quarterback Roulette: Round and round and round it goes. Who will start? Nobody knows. Though starting quarterback has not been careless with the football (1 int, 1 sack), he has simply not made plays. Even big plays should have been bigger plays, if he would have hit the receiver in stride. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that he is going to improve, with a weak arm and timid pocket presence being his biggest issues, and Butch has seen enough to declare the QB position open for the taking this week. It's too bad for Worley, who by all accounts works hard and is a high character guy (high motor, gamer, deceptive speed... for those keeping score at home), but he just isn't getting it done.

Back-up Nathan Peterson seems to have a bit more of an arm, but from what fans have seen from him in mop-up duty, and in the O&W game, he just doesn't seem to be "the future." True freshmen Dobbs and Ferguson will get a fair shake, and don't be surprised if Butch does not announce a starter until game time, and more than one QB gets playing time. I have a feeling Butch doesn't give a rat's behind about red-shirts.

If the Vols cannot get more production from the QB position, Florida's nasty defensive backs are going to lock down our WR's, ala Oregon, and the defensive front 7 are going to key on the run like Muschamp in a staring contest.

2. Drag down Driskel: Jeff Driskel is not a great quarterback, but he is juuuuussst good enough to win most of the time. He is prone to be sacked (36 in 2012, 4 in 2013), but the TN defensive front, who has members dropping like flies, has to get pressure... something they have not done in years. If they get pressure, Driskel has been known to cough it up. If they don't, his 70.9% completion rate will eat us alive.

3. Paging all WR's...: The Vols had a rough time against Oregon's defensive backs. And when they got open, they had too many drops. It's game 4, and we are still waiting for someone to step up and say, "I'm the best motherlovin' WR on this dam team. I'm making every catch, and if any of you other jokers want catches, you're gonna have to take them from me." Someone needs to display the skill and swagger to lead this group, and give the QB a target he can throw to in confidence. The return of Pig and JJ will help this week.

Right now, the WR's are playing to the level of the 2008 Lucas Taylor, Gerald Jones, Denarius Moore group who led the Vols with a not so mind blowing combination of 67 catches for 926 yards. If we have a new starter, they may take more chances with the football, and if the WR's are not any more open than they have been, there will be interceptions.

4. 3rd Down, and sit down: Two things that will cause you to lose sleep tonight:
a. Florida has allowed 2-24 3rd down conversion attempts to go for first downs.
b. TN converted only 5-15 against Oregon.

Interestingly enough, Florida and Tennessee have the same % of 3rd down conversions this year (44%). The team that has the higher % in this game will have a decided advantage.

5. Give and Take: As I mentioned previously, Florida does have a tendency to give the ball away. They rank 118th in the nation in turnover margin (losing 6, taking 2). TN is tied for 4th (losing 2, taking 8). The Vols need to "play for, and make the breaks" if they are going to upend the Gators.

6. Run for your lives: Florida's defense does not like to give up yards on the ground (3rd in rushing defense). They have pounded their opponents, leaving a staunch 50 yards per game worth of scraps to be found. Miami stud Duke Johnson got a whopping 59 yards (2.8 per carry), after torching Florida Atlantic for 186.

Tennessee is currently rushing for 244 per game, so something's gotta give. The old stat that we hear every year, and I'm not sure how current it is, but there is definitely a trend, "Whoever rushes for more yards in the TN FL game, has won the game ___ of the last ___ seasons." Florida is only rushing for 192, but TN's defense is allowing 105 more yards per game on the ground than Florida, so it's hard to see which way this one will go. With TN thin at DT, it may not go well.

7. Tale of the tape: Each coaching staff has seen the tape of how to beat the other team this season. The questions are:
a. Do either team have the horses to implement those same schemes?
b. Which team has done a better job adjusting from their loss?

Prediction: Tennessee's QB situation is completely unpredictable. Is Peterman capable of being like Rick Clausen, who in spite of physical limitations, still played good enough to get the job done? Will Dobbs or Ferguson step in as Freshmen sensations like Tyler Bray? Is Worley still running the show? Who the heck knows?

I think ultimately, Florida's defense is too strong for the Vols, who still have not found an offensive rhythm, and the TN defense is too banged up and slow to contain the gators. I hate to say it, but...

TN 14
FL 34

Let the debate
 
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Another question. I heard on the radio this morning that the team had a "players only" meeting, is this true and if so has anyone heard what happened?

They probably heard that USC had a players only meeting to talk about Kiffin getting ready to get fired, and thought they would meet to discuss the same thing.
 
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Sorry, Nick. I didn't realize. Feel free to post yours and maybe the mods can merge the two at the beginning of the thread.

LOL, it's ok. I mean, I kicked a bucket of lightbulbs and kinda burnt my mattress a little... or... a lot, but I mean, whatever.

They've already merged it. :hi: It looks like my usual thread title, but your first post. Mine analysis pops in a little while later.
 
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Really disappointed about the Saulsberry injury and hoping our young DT's will step up....they have no choice. Also hoping Big Dan will finally become a force besides occupying space. I'm not ripping him, but does he know any moves besides a bull rush!?!

Offensively, I'd like to see Peterman or one the two true frosh get the nod. Hopefully, it will be the spark we need. Without a QB that can run or throw the deep ball this offense is way too predictable and in trouble on Saturday. IMO.
 
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1. How will the team respond after our performance at Oregon? Under Dooley, this could be bad news bears, but how will a Jones-coached team respond?


4. Who will play QB for the Vols? Will we see multiple QBs in multiple formations, or will we still have Worley leading the way?

5. Related to 4., what will our passing game look like?

Good talking points - here are the 3 i am most concerned with - i think running on them will be difficult - our Oline has done well at keeping their guy from penetrating but i don't see them getting to the 2nd level with real push that you would expect from a group hailed as elite

which means it will come down to pass protection and who the QB is - i think we can pass protect as well as any oline in the country

if we get a qb that can run and can make a few throws we might have a shot - if we don't have a qb in the game that can run and make plays when receivers run poor routes or everything breaks down then we have no chance and will get blasted again

JMO
 
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I tend to think if UT is going to have a chance, they're going to need a couple turnovers resulting in instant points at best, or short fields at worst.
 
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LOL, it's ok. I mean, I kicked a bucket of lightbulbs and kinda burnt my mattress a little... or... a lot, but I mean, whatever.

They've already merged it. :hi: It looks like my usual thread title, but your first post. Mine analysis pops in a little while later.

for all your efforts - i gave you a like
 
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I tend to think if UT is going to have a chance, they're going to need a couple turnovers resulting in instant points at best, or short fields at worst.

agreed - a big turnover that is not just an interception or a fumble but one returned for a TD - also I think we will need a special team breakdown to go our way

if we get that and 1-2 solid offensive drives we may score enough to sneak out a W

fortunately UF is very different from oregon and not near as explosive so a turnover will hurt them way more than it would oregon
 

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