Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[Orange_Crush]

Oh you mean the black panther? there's a thriving population in middle TN

To risk the wrath here... I've personally seen them in greater Chattanooga area. As have several acquaintances.

 

[SoilVol]

I know a couple of things that TWRA has done in my lifetime. 1. brought back the deer population and 2, the turkeys.

Most people don't know but the deer population was almost nil in Middle Tn and the state for that matter, in the 50's and 60's ( I think wasting disease or something like that killed them off) and when I started deer hunting in the 70's it was a thrill to just see one and you NEVER saw a turkey. Now we have ample of both, so those projects have worked very well. We have both roaming the streets now in almost every city.

We hunted them to extirpation in much of the south. There were only a handful of strongholds. They transported deer from the midwest to restock the state and upped enforcement of game laws. The deer in TN today are not the same bloodline that Boone hunted.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Please. God get Rid of that stupid Smokey logo.

'Smokey's on the prowl.' (sick animal sound).

That's first thing that comes to mind.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I know they were doing it at Alligator River in N Carolina at one point

I knew they were trying in a few spots...I just don't know where they could do it in Tennessee that would have the qualities needed to support a population of Wolves.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

We hunted them to extirpation in much of the south. There were only a handful of strongholds. They transported deer from the midwest to restock the state and upped enforcement of game laws. The deer in TN today are not the same bloodline that Boone hunted.

I read once that it was the desperation of the Great Depression that caused them to nearly disappear in rural areas.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Oh you mean the black panther? there's a thriving population in middle TN

ba dum tss.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

it would have to be the Smokies or a Federally managed area.

These red dipshits in Nashville would have open season on any State land.

I don't think the Smokies have a large enough population of deer outside of Cades Cove to support very many wolves.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I don't think the Smokies have a large enough population of deer outside of Cades Cove to support very many wolves.

or land.

 

[engineerVOL]

She should get even bigger pay raise after basically firing the worst AD we have ever had (Fulmer) a long with Pruitt and hiring White

Well, she was responsible for hiring and signing paychecks for both, so… anyways…. way to take something innocuous and sully it.

GB?

 

[engineerVOL]

Now we're at the point where an apex predator needs to be reintroduced to Tennessee. No the black bear is not an apex predator because they're too smart to hunt live prey for food

Like the cottonmouth? I hear we are infested with them.

Lol.

 

[SoilVol]

Right now Red Wolves are being planned to be reintroduced. I agree with the Mountain Lion aspect. Lotta reports of them but none confirmed as of now. I think they would be last to be introduced (if ever) because of the amount of tourists the visit East Tennessee and West NC

Red wolf reintroductions are failing because they can't keep the bloodline pure (coyotes). I would not be shocked to see red wolves be declared extinct in my lifetime.

Lions occasionally pop up in the western half of the state. Typically rouge males from the badlands per genetic analysis. They'll eventually reestablish in the east, but no agency is going to open that can of worms. As soon as someone gets hurt or lifestock killed they'll get sued, even if its wrong.

Bears are spreading at a rapid rate. They're now st starting to get established in areas of the midstate. I continue to hope the state will establish some in LBL like they did BSF but I'm not convinced they will. The black bear population today is higher than its been in the last century (or two) and only growing. Not an apex predator, but will take fawns and change some behavior patterns. Hunting where there's predators is an awesome feeling.

 

[engineerVOL]

Oh you mean the black panther? there's a thriving population in middle TN

Whaaaaaaat?

 

[thistime]

We hunted them to extirpation in much of the south. There were only a handful of strongholds. They transported deer from the midwest to restock the state and upped enforcement of game laws. The deer in TN today are not the same bloodline that Boone hunted.

I live in Sumner County and not far from my house is one of the spots they released some of the deer at. My understanding is that those deer were from either Ky or Tx I've heard both.

 

[SoilVol]

Oh you mean the black panther? there's a thriving population in middle TN

Don't start this today

 

[engineerVOL]

Red wolf reintroductions are failing because they can't keep the bloodline pure (coyotes). I would not be shocked to see red wolves be declared extinct in my lifetime.

Lions occasionally pop up in the western half of the state. Typically rouge males from the badlands per genetic analysis. They'll eventually reestablish in the east, but no agency is going to open that can of worms. As soon as someone gets hurt or lifestock killed they'll get sued, even if its wrong.

Bears are spreading at a rapid rate. They're now st starting to get established in areas of the midstate. I continue to hope the state will establish some in LBL like they did BSF but I'm not convinced they will. The black bear population today is higher than its been in the last century (or two) and only growing. Not an apex predator, but will take fawns and change some behavior patterns. Hunting where there's predators is an awesome feeling.

 

[ConwayFitty]

To risk the wrath here... I've personally seen them in greater Chattanooga area. As have several acquaintances.

They are usually thought to be melanistic cougars or bobcats. They have been spotted here in Lincoln County on trail cams too, but haven't been "confirmed." I was just really wanting set up a chance to use this meme:

 

[T2P_Priceless]

Black......like the UT baseball caps................

or....................

PS...........Hope Tate is a Vol.

That is bad, ugly

 

[Jackcrevol]

Imagine being alive back then to see undammed rivers and streams, old growth Appalachia, untouched scenery.

Salmon stocked rivers, Buffalo abounding, no power lines.

 

[Voltime123]

Well, she was responsible for hiring and signing paychecks for both, so… anyways…. way to take something innocuous and sully it.

GB?

At the time everyone thought Fulmer could be a good AD so I don’t blame her for hiring him, but Fulmer was stubborn and he made his own bed with Pruitt with not pulling the trigger and firing him and it killed him. Donde made the right call in getting rid of both so bravo to her

 

[Orange_Crush]

They are usually thought to be melanistic cougars or bobcats. They have been spotted here in Lincoln County on trail cams too, but haven't been "confirmed." I was just really wanting set up a chance to use this meme:

I bemoan the lack of likes to be given for use of that meme.

 

[thistime]

Whaaaaaaat?

I have seen picture's that a friend of mine took behind his house in Waverly. Granted they are pictures of foot prints....cat foot prints.....about the size of a tea glass top.

 

[Dudleys87]

As long as we win I don’t care if they roll out in some 80s Russel Athletics jerseys

 

[SoilVol]

To risk the wrath here... I've personally seen them in greater Chattanooga area. As have several acquaintances.

I don't want to offer wrath I will just mention... mountain lion (Puma concolor) has never exhibited melanism and their species name "concolor" means "one color" because throughout their range (tip of South America to Canada) they have the same coat color. The Panthera genus exhibits melanism. When people say "black panther," that generally refers to a melanistic African leopard in Africa or a melanistic jaguar in Central and South America.

Poor lighting can play tricks on your eyes, and it can also make things appear larger than they are, but black mountain lions do not exist and have never existed.

 

[itsme]

Looks like high school helmets.

More like peewee football helmets, that the coach let his 8 year old son design.

 

[SoilVol]

I don't think the Smokies have a large enough population of deer outside of Cades Cove to support very many wolves.

Bingo. The problem with the Smokies is that it's actually fairly poor habitat as contiguous old growth. The majority of game are concentrated on the edge of the park and high-use areas where there's openings and food. But since its a national park you can't do any habitat management. Could look to Cherokee or Pisgah National Forests, but every time they try to get a logging operations to create habitat it gets hit with a lawsuit but well-meaning buffoons.