Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[McGeesPub]

I’m thinking Bob Stoops

Mike Stoops just accepted a position at Texas. That doesn’t happen if Bob is a candidate here.

 

[Ron Swanson]

I think we are wading in these waters boys.

Matt Campbell
PJ Fleck
James Franklin
Kyle Whittingham
Lane Kiffin (Think NCAA stuff is too long ago and minor to hold him back)

I REALLY hope it’s not Franklin. I can’t stand that guy.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

swain said stop being stubborn on the proven HC thing because adjustments will be made.

Swain isn’t some reliable source. He’s one guy. We’re not being stubborn. There is just no way you make Danny White the highest paid AD in the SEC only to go hire an unproven assistant with two years experience of P5 coordinator duties to come clean up the mess made by another career assistant with zero HC experience.

It’s nothing against Elliot. Tennessee just doesn’t have the luxury to play the whole experiment game for a 4th straight time.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

I swear to God, if we hire another coordinator...... I don't care about whites past success hiring people. We were told this isn't a place to try someone out. We were told a winner that's coached before. We are in this mess because we hired a coordinator. Don't hire a coordinator. Period. And I hope you guys don't blindly accept another coordinator just because white hired him.

 

[rjd970]

HC exp.

power 5 exp.

offensive minded

Clean recruiting background

Great leader

Interesting that "proven success at power 5" isn't a bottom line requirement. There are a TON of coaches that check these boxes.

 

[BruinVol]

I agree with Shaw. I think he got a lot of love riding the Harbaugh train. He is not good at recruiting. You see what happened with Mason. The guy was lost recruiting in this league and he was a Shaw guy. No reason Stanford should be on decline in that conference.

Patterson I disagree with. TCU is such a hard place to consistently recruit to and have consistency. There are always going to be ups and down and he has a lot more ups than downs. Patterson would be an outstanding hire here. I’d be more confident in his ability to have success here than shaw

These discussions are wild, fun and eye opening. I think those numbers I just showed should make us be scared of both but I respect your opinion

 

[Ron Swanson]

Interesting that "proven success at power 5" isn't a bottom line requirement. There are a TON of coaches that check these boxes.

That should be assumed. Don’t think we’re hiring a losing HC this time.

 

[Christian Lowe]

I swear to God, if we hire another coordinator...... I don't care about whites past success hiring people. We were told this isn't a place to try someone out. We were told a winner that's coached before. We are in this mess because we hired a coordinator. Don't hire a coordinator. Period. And I hope you guys don't blindly accept another coordinator just because white hired him.

I won’t. But I’m not going to say tennessee will all of the sudden change their ways. Chances are it’s tony Elliot. It makes sense because it’s tennessee.

 

[RiotVol]

Latest from Bob on 247 this morning...

Campbell or Napier.

 

[Weezer]

I have nothing against Kiffin and think he could do well here, but realistically, I think the odds are against him being the hire. Boyd and Plowman seem to be about starting fresh. That showed in hiring Danny White, an AD without a past connection to UT. I think the same will probably be true of our next HC.

But I'm not an insider and know nothing concrete.

 

[CoachClick]

I won’t. But I’m not going to say tennessee will all of the sudden change their ways. Chances are it’s tony Elliot. It makes sense because it’s tennessee.

Would have a week ago.

 

[daj2576]

Bob-Vol on 247

That's NOT a primary source, that's internet gossip.

Edit: that reads much harsher than I intended.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Prob stated already.. swains show stated kiffin hasn’t been contacted, tony Elliot is the leader.

I'm out on Elliott

 

[Ten_Titans]

I'm a tiny bit concerned White already had his list ready when he was hired. Hopefully it is a P5 list he kept handy and not his UCF list.

 

[Batman1948]

Is Vol Twitter going to have a breakdown if it's not Kiffin?

I'm afraid the people on this site will even though our AD will bring us someone miles ahead of Pruitt

 

[Ttucke11]

Fleck would also fit that criteria pretty well.

 

[rjd970]

Campbell or Napier.

If I'm putting real money on it, these are my bets.

I still think Lane would crush it here.

 

[Batman1948]

I'm out on Elliott

The hire is gonna be a current head coach according to some insiders

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Campbell still feels like a pipe dream to me.

Fickell, on the other hand, can be won over. He *almost* took the Michigan State job last year. He is willing to move if the deal is right, and I believe he respects Danny White - they know each other from Ohio State and AAC meetings.

Would go against the "offensive mind" we're supposedly targeting, but maybe that's not a steadfast rule.

I could see Fickell. Our AD is a winner so I know he will target the best. Plus he is well respected which will help get who we want.

 

[CoachClick]

I'm a tiny bit concerned White already had his list ready when he was hired. Hopefully it is a P5 list he kept handy and not his UCF list.

I don't necessarily believe that it was "his" list.
He may have adopted it/added to it, sure.

 

[VolInDayton]

I REALLY hope it’s not Franklin. I can’t stand that guy.

The guy is one of the best used car salesman in the country. Not a football coach

 

[DustyRockSolid]

Campbell still feels like a pipe dream to me.

Fickell, on the other hand, can be won over. He *almost* took the Michigan State job last year. He is willing to move if the deal is right, and I believe he respects Danny White - they know each other from Ohio State and AAC meetings.

Would go against the "offensive mind" we're supposedly targeting, but maybe that's not a steadfast rule.

This hire really needs to be an offensive coach. Getting a defensive guy is admitting you're out of touch with how SEC ball is played now.

 

[volbeast33]

Elliot is not a HC and it’s been stated multiple times they want a proven winner and active HC with p5 experience so why keep bringing his name up?

I’m cool with Elliot if DW thinks he is ready.

 

[rjd970]

That should be assumed. Don’t think we’re hiring a losing HC this time.

I really hope so. No more gambles.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Reading some tea leaves I think this is what’s happened

Phil thought he was going to survive and had BOB lined up. BoB had approved Steele as DC and Tee staying on staff. As soon as White was the hire Ingram was no longer going to keep that plan going and BOB was official announced at Bama

I think this is spot on. I thought it was very curious how he was officially announced yesterday after we announced white as the AD.