Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Devo182]

fans wanted Rocker gone, and when he leaves, they panic.

Some fans.

I thought he was doing a good job at developing guys.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Here are my thoughts:

Drew Hughes must not have a very high IQ

Rumph and Rocker are excellent position coaches. Rocker's work with the DL especially was something to see. However, both weren't very good recruiters. Rumph was mediocre and Rocker was absolutely terrible as a recruiter.

The guys that we have hired are most likely good coaches, or Pruitt would not have hired them. They are unproven at a program like TN though, especially Felton. Now, they may turn out to be great hires. In fact, they probably will. I doubt they'll be worse recruiters than the guys who just moved on. But we need to hope that the DL coach is a good one because he has big shoes to fill as a teacher.

But, we had the opportunity with the money to get whoever we wanted. Maybe that's exactly what Pruitt did. However, Pruitt made a mistake in hiring Tyson Helton. He corrected that mistake with Jim Chaney. We had the opportunity to hire a Chaney or Jay type hire for these positions. We didn't do that though. But perhaps these are the guys Pruitt wanted, and if that's the case, then he has a good reason. So I'm sure that everything will be fine with them. I'm not saying they're bad hires. I'm just saying that we don't know yet. It's a wait and see.

But go ahead and crucify me guys. It's fine.

Well said Bass. Exactly how I feel. Pruitt’s job is on the line with coaching hires and he is going to hire who he believes will help him win the most games. We just hope they are rockstars because we want Pruitt to succeed and bring our Vols back

 

[engineerVOL]

Is it fair to compare resumes when Rocker has a decade+ more experience though?

Jimmy B's only been at it 15 years
As coach:

• Jacksonville State (2004) Student assistant
• Tennessee-Chattanooga (2005) Defensive line
• LSU (2006–2007) Assistant strength and conditioning
• Louisiana Tech (2008–2009) Defensive line
• Syracuse (2010) Defensive line
• Syracuse (2011) Defensive tackles
• East Mississippi Community College (2012) Defensive line / Strength and conditioning
• Kentucky (2013–2016) Defensive line
• Maryland (2017–2018) Defensive line
• Colorado (2019-2020) Co-defensive coordinator / defensive line
• Tennessee (2020-Present) Defensive line

Tracy Rocker's first 15 years
As coach:

• Auburn High School (1992–1993)
  (defensive coordinator)
• West Alabama (1994–1996)
  (Defensive line coach)
• Troy State (1997–2001)
  (Defensive line coach)
• Cincinnati (2002)
  (Defensive line coach)
• Arkansas (2003–2007)
  (Defensive line coach)

I mean to me LSU, Syracuse, Kentucky, Maryland and Colorado stack up better than West Alabama, Troy State, Cincinnati and Arkansas.... I also like that Jimmy's worked in a few areas too even was a Co-DC at Colorado.

Jimmy B can’t hold a job for more than 2/3 years. Can’t trust him.

 

[WarMachine]

Rivers to ???

 

[Devo182]

Apparently Shelton Felton would be considered as Rumph's replacement. No idea who that is

Shelton Felton used to work here with Tyson Helton.

 

[buffaloblue]

This new DL coach is a great hire and people are Complaining? Sorry his last name isn’t Gardner or Lupoi. He’s been in the SEC, And if Ansley, Pruitt, and Tucker have wanted you. I’m all in.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Rivers to ???

Titans. They'll pay him instead of Ryan or Marcus and they tried to get him via trade last off-season. He might actually be cheaper than Tannehill would have demanded too....

 

[Playdo]

Rivers to ???

That depends on if he’s more into golf or fishing, I guess.

 

[bignewt]

Rivers to ???

Carolina.

 

[utkevdawg1]

Carolina.

Nope we are tanking the season to make run for Lawrence.



Ideally.

 

[Devo182]

That’s honestly a boss move by Rocker. Will get a buyout at the end of the year he can live on during retirement.

Talk about setting a genius precedent. He's created the new metagame coaches will angle for.

 

[zhangliao04]

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Jimmy Brumbaugh about to get us all of the juco kids becuase he worked at EMCC for 1 year. Knowing your stance on juco kids....does that rustle your jimmies?

 

[bignewt]

Nope we are tanking the season to make run for Lawrence.



Ideally.

Rivers can only help make that happen.

 

[utkevdawg1]

Rivers can only help make that happen.

Grier does the same thing for cheaper. Plus they get away with saying they are "evaluating what we have at QB."

 

[butchna]

Wait, so there's no other DL coaches that can teach the position as well as, or better than, Rumph and/or Rocker? None?

But we got Pete Jenkins...or at least one of his kids!

 

[31VFL]

All 3 of these guys played at UK for Coach Brumbaugh. I know Allen didn’t play for him all 4 years, but I am sure it will still be used.

 

[butchna]

10 jobs in 15 years... that's a lot of moving.

Nothing abnormal for a position coach. Hell, Chaney’s an experienced coordinator and this is his 5th stop in 7 years.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Here are my thoughts:

Drew Hughes must not have a very high IQ

Rumph and Rocker are excellent position coaches. Rocker's work with the DL especially was something to see. However, both weren't very good recruiters. Rumph was mediocre and Rocker was absolutely terrible as a recruiter.

The guys that we have hired are most likely good coaches, or Pruitt would not have hired them. They are unproven at a program like TN though, especially Felton. Now, they may turn out to be great hires. In fact, they probably will. I doubt they'll be worse recruiters than the guys who just moved on. But we need to hope that the DL coach is a good one because he has big shoes to fill as a teacher.

But, we had the opportunity with the money to get whoever we wanted. Maybe that's exactly what Pruitt did. However, Pruitt made a mistake in hiring Tyson Helton. He corrected that mistake with Jim Chaney. We had the opportunity to hire a Chaney or Jay type hire for these positions. We didn't do that though. But perhaps these are the guys Pruitt wanted, and if that's the case, then he has a good reason. So I'm sure that everything will be fine with them. I'm not saying they're bad hires. I'm just saying that we don't know yet. It's a wait and see.

But go ahead and crucify me guys. It's fine.

Maybe the thought process is he wants recruiters that will bring in top talent. He thinks they can coach. If they can't he will be in a position to get the best coaches to replace them because of the top talent they brought in.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Amazon....smh

"Free 2 day shipping" (tiny print) when it ships

:|

Ordered something on the 5th, still hadn't "shipped" and was listed as arriving the 29th!

 

[butchna]

What’s your favorite flavor?

Purple

 

[LightningVol]

 

[Smokeytom]

Is it fair to compare resumes when Rocker has a decade+ more experience though?

Jimmy B's only been at it 15 years
As coach:

• Jacksonville State (2004) Student assistant
• Tennessee-Chattanooga (2005) Defensive line
• LSU (2006–2007) Assistant strength and conditioning
• Louisiana Tech (2008–2009) Defensive line
• Syracuse (2010) Defensive line
• Syracuse (2011) Defensive tackles
• East Mississippi Community College (2012) Defensive line / Strength and conditioning
• Kentucky (2013–2016) Defensive line
• Maryland (2017–2018) Defensive line
• Colorado (2019-2020) Co-defensive coordinator / defensive line
• Tennessee (2020-Present) Defensive line

Tracy Rocker's first 15 years
As coach:

• Auburn High School (1992–1993)
  (defensive coordinator)
• West Alabama (1994–1996)
  (Defensive line coach)
• Troy State (1997–2001)
  (Defensive line coach)
• Cincinnati (2002)
  (Defensive line coach)
• Arkansas (2003–2007)
  (Defensive line coach)

I mean to me LSU, Syracuse, Kentucky, Maryland and Colorado stack up better than West Alabama, Troy State, Cincinnati and Arkansas.... I also like that Jimmy's worked in a few areas too even was a Co-DC at Colorado.

Co-DC with Mel? That's big. Maybe Pruitt sees him as a replacement for Ansley if Ansley has HC aspirations. Never too early to start grooming him. Mel runs a similar system as Pruitt so he's already gained plenty of good knowledge.

Hire is looking better and better!

 

[UTSuave’]

Rivers to ???

Please not the titans.dude is a head case

 

[butchna]

I've mellowed out some. At least for this forum. So I really am sorry. Check me in the Zone or the PF and you won't get any apologies, lol. It takes some serious dumb to actually piss me off anymore.

My exact assessment of you. Worried me for a sec.

 

[Glitch]

@Bassmaster_Vol

He looks mean. It's a start.