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HankHill said:
Chaney deserves every single bit of credit for our offensive line this year. He is the OC / basically OL coach now. That doesn’t change the fact the Pittman is overrated. Is he a bad coach? No. But he’s not the urban legend megladon coach like some make him out to be.

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Chaney has earned his $ this year.

Between patching up the OL and playing 3 QBs (not counting JJ). Saturday was just short of a Christmas miracle.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
Some thoughts from Neyland Stadium:

1. Woooooweeee what an energetic crowd. The fans brought a ton noise and energy yesterday. Haven’t heard it that loud in quite a while. Also never seen the fans so tuned in to the officials — there were a couple minutes there where I thought the situation could have turned ugly, but thankfully it didn’t. We have amazing fans, they have a decade worth of bottled up energy - yesterday we saw a release of some of it and it felt (and sounded) great.

2. Like the way Pruitt handled the QB situation. Spared JG any negativity with starting, but knew that he’d need JG to win the game. For an inexperienced head coach, he handled that situation with perfection.

3. Our offensive line, even though it got banged up last night, played great ball. They hardly touched our QBs. They got some push. And against an elite defensive line.

4. Jim Chaney has his best night of the season. Play calling was fantastic. A+

5. Beamerball errrr Pruittball!?!? Press the kicking game! Score!

6. Our WR corps is elite. Keep feeding them the rock baby!

7. Concerned about banged up players: D Wright, D Taylor, hope they’re okay. Hope JG can play. Did Jordan get banged up? Didn’t see him much in the second half.

8. Halftime adjustments were awesome on defense. Shutting them out in the second half was huge.

9. This team has a ton of momentum right now. Gotta stay up for a tough game against UAB next week.
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Halftime adjustments aren’t really a thing.

-butch jones
 
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butchna said:
Sam Pittman is properly rated and has been for a few years. He’s a great recruiter who needed the time to develop that reputation. As a coach, he coaches up his boys as well as any, but there’s only so much an OL coach can do tactically. You need an OC who can synergize the playmakers and scheme with the big guys. DeBord made our OL look almost legit at times and Chaney’s advanced our talent increase under Friend.
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OL coach is the most important assistant in football. You could make the argument it’s even more important than OC in some cases. They are the ones installing the run game most of the time and off the pass protections and alignments. Bellicheck literally would not leave Dante Scarnecchias house to talk him out of retirement a few years ago. That’s how important he is and they are others like him. So the OL coach and OC have to be totally in sync offenses to work. In our case, Chaney has a major hand in coaching OL too so it’s clicking very well now. I’ll be the first to admit i didn’t love the Chaney hire bc i didn’t think our personnel fit what he likes to do, granted we haven’t done it well against quality opponents but if we keep playing well and make a bowl game I’ll gladly take my L on that.

But with Pittman tho it’s not that he’s a bad coach by any means he’s not. But he’s seen like some caped hero especially by here bc of who replaced him when his actual production and quality of individual players that he’s recruited, evaluated, and then helped move on isn’t overly impressive when you’re talking some of the best in the biz.
 
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butchna said:
To surmise: Everyone overrated what an OL coach does. Posted that before the season...and in every thread suggesting throwing the bank at a position coach pulling in $1.5 mil a year. 😏
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Nah I’ll disagree with that. It’s the most important unit position coach by far. Pay whatever it takes to get a great one.
 
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jakez4ut said:
and 3 of that is home field, so they're basically saying we're less than a TD favorite at home for homecoming game.

cool.
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Odds shark says it was never at 13. They say opening was 10.5 and it is now 10 or 9.5 depending on the book.
 
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eVOLve said:
He has decent wheels too compared to what people have been saying. He could take off and get some yards if plays break down.
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I still have no idea how mobile that kid is, lol. On one play against Alabama, Shrout looked like he'd never dropped back to pass in his life. Bama showed him some pressure and he tackled himself. But against SC, his footwork on the deep ball to Callaway was perfect. Fakes the handoff, fakes the rollout, plants, and fires a dime. That's not an easy series of moves, and he did it flawlessly. It's hard to figure how both of those plays could have come from the same QB.
 
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HankHill said:
Nah I’ll disagree with that. It’s the most important unit position coach by far. Pay whatever it takes to get a great one.
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Didn’t say it wasn’t important. Just stating the idea that there’s only one out there is a fallacy. Every NC at this level has been won without Pittman as the OL coach. You can either coach an OL or you can’t. The rest is all recruiting and Friend has his name on Wanya Morris and Darnell Wright. Yes Nieds developed the relationship but they had to want to play for the position coach or they wouldn’t have signed. You build on that. Pittman’s never leaving UGA.
 
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HankHill said:
OL coach is the most important assistant in football. You could make the argument it’s even more important than OC in some cases. They are the ones installing the run game most of the time and off the pass protections and alignments. Bellicheck literally would not leave Dante Scarnecchias house to talk him out of retirement a few years ago. That’s how important he is and they are others like him. So the OL coach and OC have to be totally in sync offenses to work. In our case, Chaney has a major hand in coaching OL too so it’s clicking very well now. I’ll be the first to admit i didn’t love the Chaney hire bc i didn’t think our personnel fit what he likes to do, granted we haven’t done it well against quality opponents but if we keep playing well and make a bowl game I’ll gladly take my L on that.

But with Pittman tho it’s not that he’s a bad coach by any means he’s not. But he’s seen like some caped hero especially by here bc of who replaced him when his actual production and quality of individual players that he’s recruited, evaluated, and then helped move on isn’t overly impressive when you’re talking some of the best in the biz.
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I think the point most are making is in your post. Chaney and Pittman are totally in sync and love working together going back a decade.

The bonus is that Pittman is also an A+ recruiter.
 
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Batman1948 said:
As long as Tony V is our baseball coach, that Vandy program won't matter much. He's signing the top players that Vandy would normally sign. Also, it doesn't hurt that Fulmer is giving Tony the resources to upgrade our facilities. We're getting pretty close to being a power in baseball again.
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I am very happy with Tony V, but something still needs to be done about that recruiting advantage that Corbin has enjoyed at Vandy for years and years.
 
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Atzar said:
I still have no idea how mobile that kid is, lol. On one play against Alabama, Shrout looked like he'd never dropped back to pass in his life. Bama showed him some pressure and he tackled himself. But against SC, his footwork on the deep ball to Callaway was perfect. Fakes the handoff, fakes the rollout, plants, and fires a dime. That's not an easy series of moves, and he did it flawlessly. It's hard to figure how both of those plays could have come from the same QB.
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Put in a guy cold against a defense fresh off a 100 yard plus defensive TD and marvel at the results.
 
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Atzar said:
I still have no idea how mobile that kid is, lol. On one play against Alabama, Shrout looked like he'd never dropped back to pass in his life. Bama showed him some pressure and he tackled himself. But against SC, his footwork on the deep ball to Callaway was perfect. Fakes the handoff, fakes the rollout, plants, and fires a dime. That's not an easy series of moves, and he did it flawlessly. It's hard to figure how both of those plays could have come from the same QB.
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I was more impressed with Shrout when the line broke loose nearly at the snap and he got away from the pressure and threw it 20 yards and out of bounds, saving a FG attempt.
 
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