Realistically, do you believe there will be a 2020 season?

Will there be a 2020 college football season?


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BeardedVol

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Sorry, but all viruses die down in higher UV light.
Is it normal for you to blindly disregard facts on other topics when they are placed in front of you for easy consumption?

Show me a (reputable) source that says increased UV radiation from longer hours of sunshine will halt or slow the transmission of covid19.
 

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Might want to do some Googling before you post on a topic next time. It's not just deaths you have to worry about, but continued transmission and the impact on the healthcare system.


Think you’re too young to be hospitalized by coronavirus? This chart shows why you’re wrong

The US has roughly ~160,000 ventilators in service with another ~16,000 in strategic reserve. You want me to do the basic math for you on the number of Americans that will require hospitalization and the use of ventilator if the spread is not contained? You cool with your loved ones being denied the use of a ventilator because they are over the age of 60? That's the point they are at in Italy at the moment.
See you in September. I'll bring the crow. One of us will have to eat it.
 

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So because we have a incompetent government that didn't listen to its own intelligence briefings in December and January and act accordingly, because they didn't want to negatively impact the economy on a smaller scale, we are now dealing with even greater economic fallout to go along with the human impact. So now we should just do nothing and let the virus overwhelm the country and just try to live with a failed healthcare system and failed economy at the same time?

That's your answer? Brilliant.
Ahhh, there it is. This explains the hysteria. LOL

BTW, I'm not sure what kind of reaction you expected since we didn't know what we were dealing with until Jan 10th?
 

BeardedVol

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Ahhh, there it is. This explains the hysteria. LOL

BTW, I'm not sure what kind of reaction you expected since we didn't know what we were dealing with until Jan 10th?
Are you implying that our intelligence services didn't brief our government officials on what was going on in China back in December and January?

You do realize that our government is comprised of more than just the president, correct?
 

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Are you implying that our intelligence services didn't brief our government officials on what was going on in China back in December and January?

You do realize that our government is comprised of more than just the president, correct?
Here's a fact for you... the Covid 19 strain was not identified by China until the 10th of January. So you tell me Mr. Bond, what is it you expected to happen in December? I can't wait to hear this. LOL
 

BeardedVol

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Here's a fact for you... the Covid 19 strain was not identified by China until the 10th of January. So you tell me Mr. Bond, what is it you expected to happen in December? I can't wait to hear this. LOL
You might want to familiarize yourself with the actual timeline of the virus:
Timeline of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in November 2019 – January 2020 - Wikipedia

China knew there was a SARS-like novel coronavirus affecting the Wuhan region starting in the middle of December, the didn't alert WHO until December 31st 2019.

If you believe our intelligence services are reliant on China notifying WHO before they know of an outbreak of this nature, then I don't know how much of a discussion we can have on the subject.
 

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There will be a 2020 college and professional football season because this country needs an outlet from the 24/7 corona virus news cycle.

Mark Cuban said that sports will be a great relief for all Americans.

I think there will be an abbreviated major league baseball season.
 

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UK.gov which is of course from the United Kingdom stated on 03-19-20 that covid 19 is no longer listed as a HCID (high consequence infectious disease).

You have to "dig" to find the information, anytime you "Google" coronavirus it is all doom and gloom but I was able to find it eventually. They stated it was listed as HCID earlier because of unknown answers however due to low mortality rates it has been taken off their high priority list....
 
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Is it normal for you to blindly disregard facts on other topics when they are placed in front of you for easy consumption?

Show me a (reputable) source that says increased UV radiation from longer hours of sunshine will halt or slow the transmission of covid19.
You do know that they make air filter systems for homes and businesses that kill viruses right? How do they kill the viruses in the air? UV Light. If Covid19 is immune to UV light then it would be different from all other viruses.

Here is an article from the NY Slimes where doctors are running short on masks and using UV lamps to decontaminate them of corona virus for reuse.

As Coronavirus Looms, Mask Shortage Gives Rise to Promising Approach
 

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You might want to familiarize yourself with the actual timeline of the virus:
Timeline of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in November 2019 – January 2020 - Wikipedia

China knew there was a SARS-like novel coronavirus affecting the Wuhan region starting in the middle of December, the didn't alert WHO until December 31st 2019.

If you believe our intelligence services are reliant on China notifying WHO before they know of an outbreak of this nature, then I don't know how much of a discussion we can have on the subject.
China completely dropped the ball on this. Tried to cover it up so they wouldn't look bad. Never trust the Chinese Communists!
 

HoptownVol

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You might want to familiarize yourself with the actual timeline of the virus:
Timeline of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in November 2019 – January 2020 - Wikipedia

China knew there was a SARS-like novel coronavirus affecting the Wuhan region starting in the middle of December, the didn't alert WHO until December 31st 2019.

If you believe our intelligence services are reliant on China notifying WHO before they know of an outbreak of this nature, then I don't know how much of a discussion we can have on the subject.
LOL So you think all corona strains are alike I suppose? You just flunked the test 007, I suppose you missed Fauci and the Director of CDC when they announced "we've never seen this strain before."

You seem triggered, maybe get your mommy to whip you up some hot cocoa, that should calm you down.
 
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LOL So you think all corona strains are alike I suppose? You just flunked the test 007, I suppose you missed Fauci and the Director of CDC when they announced "we've never seen this strain before."

You seem triggered, maybe get your mommy to whip you up some hot cocoa, that should calm you down.
So, your supposition, is that the novel Coronavirus identified in Wuhan in the middle of December, that was linked to respiratory issues and pneumonia, was a different Coronavirus than what we now call covid19?

Yeah, makes complete sense considering that two weeks later China alerted WHO of the outbreak listing this strain of the novel Coronavirus as the cause.

Question, how do you manage to breath through all of that sand?
 
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You do know that they make air filter systems for homes and businesses that kill viruses right? How do they kill the viruses in the air? UV Light. If Covid19 is immune to UV light then it would be different from all other viruses.

Here is an article from the NY Slimes where doctors are running short on masks and using UV lamps to decontaminate them of corona virus for reuse.

As Coronavirus Looms, Mask Shortage Gives Rise to Promising Approach
So your answer for immediately slowing and halting the spread of covid19 is to install UV air filtration systems in everyone's homes and all businesses?
 

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So your answer for immediately slowing and halting the spread of covid19 is to install UV air filtration systems in everyone's homes and all businesses?
It’s no more absurd than closing businesses and ordering people to shelter in place over a cold that proves fatal for, at absolute worst, significantly less than 5% of those who contract it.
 

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Couple of articles out this morning about what a cancelled college football looks like and it's impact on the landscape.
6.5 BILLION dollars directly taken in from college football - averages out to 51 million per school (obviously some more, some less).
Accounts for approximately 80% of competing schools ENTIRE athletic budget...to a school like Tennessee, that's somewhere in the neighborhood of 125 to 150 million.

Don't see anything in the government stimulus package that saves these athletic departments either...this would cripple athletics at a lot of schools.

Will the 2020 college football season be canceled? Coaches, ADs weigh possibility and impact
 

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Sorry, but all viruses die down in higher UV light.
Outside the body. UV light will for sure help with surface transmission. Hard to say how much effect this has on spread of the virus though. People can be infected and never realize it, even the ones who show symptoms can feel normal for 2-14 days. So I guess both of you are right in a way. UV certainly helps, how much? IDK that we're going to see that much effect as long as the incubation period is for this virus. Social distancing is still going to be the best bet to slow this virus while we figure out a vaccine and treatment protocol.
 
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Outside the body. UV light will for sure help with surface transmission. Hard to say how much effect this has on spread of the virus though. People can be infected and never realize it, even the ones who show symptoms can feel normal for 2-14 days. So I guess both of you are right in a way. UV certainly helps, how much? IDK that we're going to see that much effect as long as the incubation period is for this virus. Social distancing is still going to be the best bet to slow this virus while we figure out a vaccine and treatment protocol.
There's no evidence at the moment that icreased UV from sunshine will have any effect on covid19.

People seem to forget that H1N1 was April-May of 2009, far outside of the traditional flu windows into the warmer months. There is no guarantee that any transmission of any virus will be affected by warmer weather.
2009 H1N1 Flu Pandemic Timeline
 
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I have seen all this before, and like I said the fatalities are generally with the elderly or with people that have some kind of other severe condition. What is hidden is the fact that God knows how many people have contracted this and either shown no symptoms or shown very few and have recovered on their own without being tested. That would knock the mortality rate down even more. I do understand the need to not overwhelm the healthcare system. That's why restrictions in the COOLER weather make sense. All viruses die down in the hotter weather because of the extra UV light and higher humidity that summer weather brings. Infections will be at their lowest in August and September. There will be a football season. Everyone will eventually be exposed no matter what because we have no immunity to this.....unless we all just want to stay home forever, which is impossible. It'll probably fire right back up in December. Gotta develop antibodies. Life cannot end as we know it because of this.
In regard to your expertise on warm and humid climates in the pathology world of viruses, can you please explain the rising numbers of cases in Africa at the moment? Over the last three days, I have been in correspondence with business colleagues in Kampala Uganda, Johannesburg South Africa, and Nairobi Kenya (two of which are semi-equatorial or equatorial)...all have COVID-19 now and the number of cases are quickly on the rise.

Not to mention Miami and NOLA....
 
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It’s no more absurd than closing businesses and ordering people to shelter in place over a cold that proves fatal for, at absolute worst, significantly less than 5% of those who contract it.
Absurd is not taking measures to prevent this from spreading. And I get it, all of us want a good outcome here. Some are worried about the virus, some are worried about the economy, what's important to each individual is determined by how they are effected by this pandemic. Fact is if everyone did what they should the economic impact and the number of infections would both be lowered.
 

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There's no evidence at the moment that icreased UV from sunshine will have any effect on covid19.

People seem to forget that H1N1 was April-May of 2009, far outside of the traditional flu windows into the warmer months. There is no guarantee that any transmission of any virus will be affected by warmer weather.
2009 H1N1 Flu Pandemic Timeline
We're not in disagreement. Simple fact is all viruses I'm aware of die faster outside the body in UV light. The virus can live several hours to days on various surfaces. Will that effect anything significantly? I have my doubts but it definitely doesnt hurt.
 

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So, your supposition, is that the novel Coronavirus identified in Wuhan in the middle of December, that was linked to respiratory issues and pneumonia, was a different Coronavirus than what we now call covid19?

Yeah, makes complete sense considering that two weeks later China alerted WHO of the outbreak listing this strain of the novel Coronavirus as the cause.

Question, how do you manage to breath through all of that sand?
Oh lord, so exactly when did WHO give us that information? I can't wait to hear this.
 

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