"Real" Democrats jumping ship?

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SIAP, I didn't see this elsewhere.

College Dem exec jumps ship as Party drifts to extreme left

“This strategy of catering to the whims of those for whom identity politics matters more than anything else, and of allowing for even anti-white, anti-male rhetoric to find a home within the party, is a large part of its untenable strategy moving forward,” Hout explained, predicting that “it will continue to cause Democrats to lose, time and time again.”
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I think you'll see more identify as the independent side of things rather than making the jump to complete GOP.

I'd almost be willing to bet a split is coming in both major parties sooner rather than later.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I think you'll see more identify as the independent side of things rather than making the jump to complete GOP.

I'd almost be willing to bet a split is coming in both major parties sooner rather than later.
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There is always questioning of the purpose of the party out of power, where they went wrong, etc. Heck, there's that questioning of the party within power, especially now. And we haven't even really yet had a Trump my way or the highway moment.
 
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lawgator1 said:
One guy switches.

Ergo some entire and identifiable "real" group switches?

Come on.
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Do you actually think that's where I was going? Why do you think I picked out the quote I did? You are capable of more nuanced thought than this...I've seen you do it so give it another shot. GV did much better. (that's actually to be expected but still)
 
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Grand Vol said:
I think you'll see more identify as the independent side of things rather than making the jump to complete GOP.

I'd almost be willing to bet a split is coming in both major parties sooner rather than later.
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I think you're probably right.
 
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lawgator1 said:
There is always questioning of the purpose of the party out of power, where they went wrong, etc. Heck, there's that questioning of the party within power, especially now. And we haven't even really yet had a Trump my way or the highway moment.
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You've started about a dozen "The GOP is dead" threads. Funny how you've suddenly had an attack of intellectual honesty.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I think you'll see more identify as the independent side of things rather than making the jump to complete GOP.

I'd almost be willing to bet a split is coming in both major parties sooner rather than later.
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Not sure if it will be an out and out split, but there are definite platform changes coming if both parties want to thrive. I don't see either party dying though. The two party system has survived for 150 years with few exceptions for a reason.
 
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They certainly won't gain many members blaming all men and all white people for America's ills. They are alienating a large portion of the voting population.
 
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I'm hoping Ellison wins DNC; of course Jemu Greene? would be equally gungho with the identity politics/social justice nonsense.
 
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GAVol said:
Not sure if it will be an out and out split, but there are definite platform changes coming if both parties want to thrive. I don't see either party dying though. The two party system has survived for 150 years with few exceptions for a reason.
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I'm not saying they will die, but I could see a split of the DNC along the lines of "don't care about social issues, but want fiscal policy fixed" and "don't care about social issues and want fiscal policy fixed" in the GOP as well.

Very well could create a viable third party that challenges both the mainstream parties.

And before someone mentions it (Huff) yes, that's generally the libertarian movement. However, new party won't be as drastic on the government cuts. Slow rollback rather than "kill it with fire!" Ron Paul style.
 
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If the Democrats will get rid of their identity politics nonsense, they will recover from this 2016 defeat like a phoenix from the ashes.

One more reason why I've argued that the Trump presidency needs to end as soon as possible through legitimate means.

The Republican Party most likely won't survive four full years of Trumpism.

Thus far, however, there's no indication that Democrats have learned their lesson.
 
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GAVol said:
You've started about a dozen "The GOP is dead" threads. Funny how you've suddenly had an attack of intellectual honesty.
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That's true, but that was based upon this science of the demographics. The GOP, long-term is still going to have those problems. I really don't think many people question that.

But thats far different than saying that, structurally in terms of policy, the party is falling apart. Same with dems
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's true, but that was based upon this science of the demographics. The GOP, long-term is still going to have those problems. I really don't think many people question that.

But thats far different than saying that, structurally in terms of policy, the party is falling apart. Same with dems
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If Trump is highly successful helping the black community, it could be checkmate in 2020.
 
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lawgator1 said:
But thats far different than saying that, structurally in terms of policy, the party is falling apart. Same with dems
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Yes, they both are. Trump caused the most divisive split in the GOP in modern history, yet came out on top.

Bernie caused yet another divisive split and drug Hillary with him on her social policy. And it's not over as the extreme left that keeps clamoring for social justice will continue to alienate those in the center and drive more of the traditional centrists into the GOP or towards independent candidates. The DNC is giving itself a death blow by not making those on the far left shut up and stop. Do you honestly think those protests are helping the cause at all? No, it's just putting steel into the resolve of those who held their nose and voted for Trump. And it will not end well.
 
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