Quinten Dormady transfers to Houston

[RollerVol]

thought I read somewhere that he'll be in the running to win the Heisman...ain't that just like Tennessee...everybody can get one somewhere else...

GO BIG ORANGE!

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

thought I read somewhere that he'll be in the running to win the Heisman...ain't that just like Tennessee...everybody can get one somewhere else...

GO BIG ORANGE!

Yeah think they said going to Houston he could be a Heisman Dark Horse 🏇. That'd be awesome for him.

 

[Behr]

Well to start with...you’re lumping VFL talk with “thinking”. None of us blowhards shall bestow or strip that fictional status on anybody. :hi:

Zackly.

**I gave you a like to hopefully offset the stalking.

 

[jasonvol18]

Yeah think they said going to Houston he could be a Heisman Dark Horse 🏇. That'd be awesome for him.

They did hire Kendall Briles, so he will be coached up. But doubt they will be good enough for that to happen even if he did play well.No clue what they have at QB, but what I saw last yr they were a horrible passing offense. Dormady could step right in if he doesn't turn the ball over like he did here. That's what got Kyle Allen benched early in the season for them. But Applewhite made a great OC hire.

 

[butchna]

Zackly.

**I gave you a like to hopefully offset the stalking.

Embrace the stalking...it’s who we are. :victory:

 

[KBVol]

Ok did you not say he played in 6 SEC games and include the stats in all 6? I was basing the #s off what you originally posted. You can't pick and choose on that. You should have just said his 5 SEC starts and would have left Ga out, but that's what you posted.

He also put a lot of those yards on LSU after the game was out of reach. It's called misleading stats.

And no I said him going 0-5 in his starts and 3 of those we scored 10 or less with 1 offensive TD. Basically you're confirming you're a stats guy or a wins and pts kinda guy? Correct? Your man crush for JG is epic and legendary. Have never seen a QB go 0-5 in SEC starts, not score an offensive TD in 2 of them and 1 offensive TD in another one. If it was anyone besides JG you would be talking how bad he was. I hate to even think where you would go mentally if Chryst was the starter.

Jarrett was 10-11, 144 yards and a TD in the first half, when the game was very much “in reach” and competitive. Score at halftime was 17-10 LSU after JG hit Callaway for a 46 yard touchdown.

So, the stats weren’t misleading at all.

 

[jasonvol18]

Jarrett was 10-11, 144 yards and a TD in the first half, when the game was very much “in reach” and competitive. Score at halftime was 17-10 LSU after JG hit Callaway for a 46 yard touchdown.

So, the stats weren’t misleading at all.

Then I stand corrected on the LSU game. It's been a while, so I was wrong on that one. Still doesn't take away from my original point. Stats mean nothing if you aren't scoring or winning. Especially vs a team who lost at home to Troy that scored 24 points on them.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Then I stand corrected on the LSU game. It's been a while, so I was wrong on that one. Still doesn't take away from my original point. Stats mean nothing if you aren't scoring or winning. Especially vs a team who lost at home to Troy that scored 24 points on them.

I think you are both right. I think JG hasn't "looked" like an SEC QB. However, we don't know what he will look like surrounded with coaching competency. Stop arguing! Embrace the sunshine!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[stevenrich2003]

This kind of reminds me of Riley Ferguson. He went to memphis and played really really well. Guess it goes to show what kind of coaching we have had in the last decade.

 

[jasonvol18]

I think you are both right. I think JG hasn't "looked" like an SEC QB. However, we don't know what he will look like surrounded with coaching competency. Stop arguing! Embrace the sunshine!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree 10000%.. I've even made that comment before about not being fare to judge him based off the coaching he got last year. We really don't know how he or Chryst will look under new Coach's. Chryst has the game experience, leadership and maturity advantage but that doesn't always equate to great on the field play. Chryst has played in a similar, more run based offense than ours will be before. Also familiarity with playing under center. JG has the advantage of a 6 month head start on the offense, being in a familiar environment and relationships with the receiver's. Plus he's played in Neyland and some SEC stadium's so he knows what to expect. No way of knowing if it helps either gain an advantage over the other. Looking forward to watching all these position Battle's, but especially QB.

 

[jasonvol18]

This kind of reminds me of Riley Ferguson. He went to memphis and played really really well. Guess it goes to show what kind of coaching we have had in the last decade.

Yea you just never know what a change of scenery, new set of coach's and coaching styles and a 2nd chance can do for a player. Sometimes it helps and other times it doesn't. Hope it works out well for Chryst, London and hopefully Kennedy too.

 

[KBVol]

Then I stand corrected on the LSU game. It's been a while, so I was wrong on that one. Still doesn't take away from my original point. Stats mean nothing if you aren't scoring or winning. Especially vs a team who lost at home to Troy that scored 24 points on them.

Ok, I do understand your point, but it’s kinda hard to put it all on one guy or make it a black or white statement. One guy can only do so much in a team game.

For example, I saw Michael Jordan score 63 points in a loss to the Celtics back in the day. I saw Kelsey Finch rip off a 99 yard run in a loss to Florida in 1977. I saw Peyton play a nearly flawless game vs Florida in 1995 only to see his teammates overcome his great play and hand the game to the Gators in an embarrassing the second half that Manning had nothing to do with.

What if JG or any other QB last year had just lit it up, threw 50 touchdown passes to no interceptions but lost every game because the defense gave up one more point than the offense could score? Would we still just lay it all at his/their feet, say they still went 0-5 as a starter and that’s all that matters? I just don’t see it that way, at all.

Was JG great last year? No, of course not....but at times he was good, even very good, that first half vs LSU for example. He was very good all game long vs Kentucky, he led them down for the go ahead TD in the 4th, and took them down again and came up only 2 yards short of winning the game with a Hail Mary pass after the DEFENSE had given up the lead again.....and had Ty Chandler’s long td run not gotten called back, you’d have had to reference him as an awful 1-4 starting QB in your post. And if Brandon Johnson had caught a perfect pass from JG in the end zone on the last play of the game vs SCar, you’d have to make that 2-3.

What do you say we look at the full context of his play and only give him the criticism, derision and fault he actually earned, rather than just putting it all on a RS freshman qb getting his first bit of collegiate game time under very difficult circumstances?

 

[82_VOL_83]

Ok, I do understand your point, but it’s kinda hard to put it all on one guy or make it a black or white statement. One guy can only do so much in a team game.

For example, I saw Michael Jordan score 63 points in a loss to the Celtics back in the day. I saw Kelsey Finch rip off a 99 yard run in a loss to Florida in 1977. I saw Peyton play a nearly flawless game vs Florida in 1995 only to see his teammates overcome his great play and hand the game to the Gators in an embarrassing the second half that Manning had nothing to do with.

What if JG or any other QB last year had just lit it up, threw 50 touchdown passes to no interceptions but lost every game because the defense gave up one more point than the offense could score? Would we still just lay it all at his/their feet, say they still went 0-5 as a starter and that’s all that matters? I just don’t see it that way, at all.

Was JG great last year? No, of course not....but at times he was good, even very good, that first half vs LSU for example. He was very good all game long vs Kentucky, he led them down for the go ahead TD in the 4th, and took them down again and came up only 2 yards short of winning the game with a Hail Mary pass after the DEFENSE had given up the lead again.....and had Ty Chandler’s long td run not gotten called back, you’d have had to reference him as an awful 1-4 starting QB in your post. And if Brandon Johnson had caught a perfect pass from JG in the end zone on the last play of the game vs SCar, you’d have to make that 2-3.

What do you say we look at the full context of his play and only give him the criticism, derision and fault he actually earned, rather than just putting it all on a RS freshman qb getting his first bit of collegiate game time under very difficult circumstances?

I was there, it hurt.

 

[Vol423]

Wins and ppg arent qb stats. If so jalen Hurts is the greatest college qb ever.

He still did well for being down a ton and handcuffed by the coaches vs UGA going 6/7.

Did as well as can be expected vs Bama.

Did well vs all the other teams. I fail to see where he played poorly once he became the starter.

We just have to disagree. :hi:

Wait a second. You’re trying to claim that JG played well last year? Seriously?

If so, your bar is set so low that anyone with a pulse wearing an orange jersey clears it (and I’m not 100% sure the pulse is actually required).

 

[jasonvol18]

Ok, I do understand your point, but it’s kinda hard to put it all on one guy or make it a black or white statement. One guy can only do so much in a team game.

For example, I saw Michael Jordan score 63 points in a loss to the Celtics back in the day. I saw Kelsey Finch rip off a 99 yard run in a loss to Florida in 1977. I saw Peyton play a nearly flawless game vs Florida in 1995 only to see his teammates overcome his great play and hand the game to the Gators in an embarrassing the second half that Manning had nothing to do with.

What if JG or any other QB last year had just lit it up, threw 50 touchdown passes to no interceptions but lost every game because the defense gave up one more point than the offense could score? Would we still just lay it all at his/their feet, say they still went 0-5 as a starter and that’s all that matters? I just don’t see it that way, at all.

Was JG great last year? No, of course not....but at times he was good, even very good, that first half vs LSU for example. He was very good all game long vs Kentucky, he led them down for the go ahead TD in the 4th, and took them down again and came up only 2 yards short of winning the game with a Hail Mary pass after the DEFENSE had given up the lead again.....and had Ty Chandler’s long td run not gotten called back, you’d have had to reference him as an awful 1-4 starting QB in your post. And if Brandon Johnson had caught a perfect pass from JG in the end zone on the last play of the game vs SCar, you’d have to make that 2-3.

What do you say we look at the full context of his play and only give him the criticism, derision and fault he actually earned, rather than just putting it all on a RS freshman qb getting his first bit of collegiate game time under very difficult circumstances?

I agree with everything you're saying. I'm definitely not putting it on JG, god knows we were awful at almost every position group. I don't think he played bad, considering the situation. Our issues went well beyond what we saw on gameday's. We don't have GA,Ala,LSU,Auburn,Clem level talent but we also don't have 4-8,0-8 in conference talent either. It just came off poisonous and it was infectious from the Coach's on down. Most games the players looked absolutely lost and very little interest. I've never seen any like it at Tennessee.

Most of my posts on JG have been more on the look at it from every angle thinking. It wasn't knocking JG but more on him not yet proving he's a winning SEC type QB yet. Just like Chryst,Mcbride and Shrout haven't either. I was just debating the whole JG stats thing. They weren't great but definitely weren't bad either. He had a good completion % and protected the ball, unlike Dormady. But if you aren't scoring points and winning then stats are meaningless. But like you said it wasn't just on him but also his teammates and even more so his Coach's. The players didn't get the coaching they were promised and expected from a place like TN. They were robbed of that and very unfair to them. Fortunately they will get what they signed on for. Now it's how will they take to real coaching.

Last thing on the QB battle. I wasn't even arguing with K that JG shouldn't or wouldn't start. It was more pumping the Brakes on him being the best option and the others not being good QB's. JG hasn't earned that way of fan thinking or confidence in him yet. And that won't happen until he wins games and does his part to help score points. But there's definitely a great chance he plays well and helps win us games. Also the Chryst not having a chance to win the job and Shrout never playing just because of his stats in HS. Both may be true but it's an unknown. I personally think Shrout will be a beast in a few yrs once he gets QB and continues to learn how to play the position. The tools,his approach, maturity and unlimited ceiling are all there. But many QB's like that, who weren't mentally tough or able to put it together failed early and often. Exactly why it's so hard to predict if they peaked in HS, or are they mentally tough enough to do it in college. The pressure put on them and the microscope they get put under has helped waste a lot of talent and potential.