Question about highly rated recruits

#26
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Dooley did a great job after the immediate departure of Kiffin (granted he was helped by the early enrolees being forced to stay). He actually did well after that considering our record the last couple of seasons. Right now, he is in limbo. Rumors swirling that he will be replaced, 5 losses thus far (albeit to good teams), 4 wins (albeit to sh***y teams), etc. I can't imagine what it is like for this guy to recruit at this moment. However, at least from all indications, he has sold the university instead of the coaching staff. If he is replaced, hopefully the majority of recruits don't jump ship. :twocents:
 
#27
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Look they aren't committing to the fan base they either commit to the coach, program, or the school. The program and coach is so horrible that they want no part of it. Every competitor understands that when you play like crap fans have reason to be upset
that's why we need to cut our loses with dools and get a better alot coach and face of the program
 
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It just makes sense our recruiting is going to fall off big time. When DD 1st got here he could sell playing time and getting UT back to the top of the SEC. With every loss and every recruit NOT being coached up it hurts us going forward. Recruits and their parents are just not going to keep buying the BS Dooley is selling. We have some decent depth and fewer freshman will see playing time. Less PT and more losing equates to rough times ahead in recruiting.
We have playing time everywhere. We have 5 SEC losses.
 
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Dooley did a great job after the immediate departure of Kiffin (granted he was helped by the early enrolees being forced to stay). He actually did well after that considering our record the last couple of seasons. Right now, he is in limbo. Rumors swirling that he will be replaced, 5 losses thus far (albeit to good teams), 4 wins (albeit to sh***y teams), etc. I can't imagine what it is like for this guy to recruit at this moment. However, at least from all indications, he has sold the university instead of the coaching staff. If he is replaced, hopefully the majority of recruits don't jump ship. :twocents:

Actually I'm afraid of this happening! If he leaves I hope we don't keep alot of these kids. We have a class witha couple of good players and then the rest are MAJOR reaches. We are TENNESSEE and yet Dooley is loading us up with Big East/MAC talent and thats what he's done with ALL of his classes. He gets a couple of SEC worthy players, 7-10 Bama, UF, LSU, USC, UGA rejects and the rest are players that are reaches and so called "diamond in the rough" type players.
Dooley evaluates and recruits like hes still at La Tech, getting players that would win 10+ games a year THERE, not in the SEC.
 
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Actually I'm afraid of this happening! If he leaves I hope we don't keep alot of these kids. We have a class witha couple of good players and then the rest are MAJOR reaches. We are TENNESSEE and yet Dooley is loading us up with Big East/MAC talent and thats what he's done with ALL of his classes. He gets a couple of SEC worthy players, 7-10 Bama, UF, LSU, USC, UGA rejects and the rest are players that are reaches and so called "diamond in the rough" type players.
Dooley evaluates and recruits like hes still at La Tech, getting players that would win 10+ games a year THERE, not in the SEC.

I actually agree with you. I think this class thus far is very average. My fear is (as has been of late) we get a less than stellar coaching replacement who obviously will tinker with the staff and then we get even less than average recruits. A homerun hire addresses that though. Also, if Dooley gets an extension, he actually is on some biggies that are on the fence. Regardless, it will be nerveracking on the recruiting trail... :swoon3:
 
#33
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I thinks it's a combination of both I think Dooley is so focus on his VFL program that he isn't looking at their potential on the field. Also tell me why a recruit wants to play for Dooley NO one besides his family respects his coaching ability. Recruits aren't blind they know a good coach when they meet him. He is not the up and comer most people believed he was.

Correct, Dooley's a Down'n Outer....cut him lose
 
#35
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I can't decide which is worse - Watching this team on Saturdays or Following this pathetic recruiting class!

Show me which one of the guys is pathetic Nostradamus.......go ahead, I'll wait! I guess you can see the future and can see how each one will turn out. Wow, we got us a winner here guys!! Pathetic post is pathectic bro, climb back in your hole till the world end please.
 
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So, as I look at the news that we stole Joe Sanders away from the likes of powerhouses Alabama St., South Alabama, and Western Kentucky, it made me wonder...has our staff since Kiffin been afraid to go after the highest ranked prospects or have we just missed every time? Now, in fairness, we have built up some solid depth and credit should be given where it is due, but it just seems like our ceiling is some 4 star recruits and a lot of "diamond in the rough, under ranked" players. All that to say, in your opinion have we MISSED or have we just been AFRAID to recruit the huge name, top of the class, immediate game changer type?

Most of the problem is our lack of success and this doesn't give great youg prospects the confidence that they will be developed into a legitiment NFL prospect. A vicious circle
 
#37
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Georgia and bama both showed major interest in this kid but they're not in a position to have to go after kids like this right now when they can get 4* and 5* kids to come there.

This is a GOOD prospect at 6'6" tall and 270 pounds who can easily add another 30+ pounds of muscle in our S&C program.

Every year there's LOTS of 4* and 5* kids that turn out to be complete BUSTS but people on here refuse to talk about that side of the coin because they'll never admit when they're totally WRONG about so many things.

You people better take a close look at how many Sophs and Freshmen we're still starting or playing lots of snaps especially on Defence because CDD has brought in some very good kids.

Go tell Stone, Thomas, Hunter, Patterson, Sentimore, McCullers, McNeil, AJ, Maggitt, Randolph and the other 10 to 12 players that will probably play in the NFL when they graduate that they're crap players and have no future in football, LOL!

This kid has great size at his age and great potential and NOBODY here knows how he'll end up after 4 Years as a Vol when he just might develope and turn into a 1st round draft pick.

The FACT is that's there's lots more 3* recruits now playing in the NFL then there are 4* and 5* kids in the NFL.

CDD and staff DO go after top recruits and I think I heard we had over 150 offers out this year but LOOK at our players dorm that's 40 years old and needs to be replaced and then look at the new apartment dorms other top programs have and guess where a kid would prefer to live for 4 or 5 years.

Look at how much totally useless horsecrap is stirred up constantly that all our coaches suck, can't coach and need to get fired yesterday and tell me how that makes any good recruit want to come to Tennessee.

Look back for 3 YEARS at how many people and how many times it was posted on here that Z Rod sucks, can't catch a cold, hands of stone, called horrid names and has been bashed and belittled to death here on VN and then tell me why any good recruit would want to come to Tennessee and play for people like most on here act.

You people are totally DELUSIONAL and out of your minds if you think that recruits and their parents don't come here to VN to read up and try to learn more things about our program and what SO-CALLED fans are saying.

This happens to be the INTERNET AGE folks and kids and their parents have lots of time to roam around and check out every site on every school that's shown any interest at all in them and their kid.

Kids and their parents don't have to come here to VN and spend 5 hours to see real fast what's said most of the time about our program, coaches, finances, ect, ect or to find threads that totally RIP our own players to shreads with total crap, lies and immature name calling and hate for that kid that's busting his butt trying to learn and get better.

I love Tennessee and I bleed Orange but I would NOT let my kid play for Tennessee even if they offered $10,000. a month in cash payed all in advance before he signed the LOI on National Signing Day the way people around here would treat my son.

Saying the same hate filled crap over and over 10 Million times on 5,000 different threads will NOT change anything but it damn sure CAN hurt our current players and our recruiting efforts.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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So, as I look at the news that we stole Joe Sanders away from the likes of powerhouses Alabama St., South Alabama, and Western Kentucky, it made me wonder...has our staff since Kiffin been afraid to go after the highest ranked prospects or have we just missed every time? Now, in fairness, we have built up some solid depth and credit should be given where it is due, but it just seems like our ceiling is some 4 star recruits and a lot of "diamond in the rough, under ranked" players. All that to say, in your opinion have we MISSED or have we just been AFRAID to recruit the huge name, top of the class, immediate game changer type?

With all the negative crap flying around generated by the sports news media and the under thirty generation, not many highly rated recruits will give Tennessee football a second glance. The negotiators reap what they sew.
 
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Yeah!! It's all the fans and the medias fault that Dooley can not land any top recruits. The fact that he has lost every game that matters and seems to not be able to coach up anyone means little in the grand scheme of things. Bright colored pants and a slick haircut will win over most any 4-5 star kid with 4.4 speed. :crazy:
 
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I love Tennessee and I bleed Orange but I would NOT let my kid play for Tennessee even if they offered $10,000. a month in cash payed all in advance before he signed the LOI on National Signing Day the way people around here would treat my son.

VFL...GBO!!!

And you accuse others of not being a REAL fan???????
 
#43
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Do you waste your time recruiting 4* and 5* talent knowing full well you won't get them in the end and at the same time turn off the 3* athletes looking for a team? That's what Dooley faces with his "success" at UT.

We are slowly sinking into an Ole Miss caliber of program.
 
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Georgia and bama both showed major interest in this kid but they're not in a position to have to go after kids like this right now when they can get 4* and 5* kids to come there.

This is a GOOD prospect at 6'6" tall and 270 pounds who can easily add another 30+ pounds of muscle in our S&C program.

Every year there's LOTS of 4* and 5* kids that turn out to be complete BUSTS but people on here refuse to talk about that side of the coin because they'll never admit when they're totally WRONG about so many things.

You people better take a close look at how many Sophs and Freshmen we're still starting or playing lots of snaps especially on Defence because CDD has brought in some very good kids.

Go tell Stone, Thomas, Hunter, Patterson, Sentimore, McCullers, McNeil, AJ, Maggitt, Randolph and the other 10 to 12 players that will probably play in the NFL when they graduate that they're crap players and have no future in football, LOL!

This kid has great size at his age and great potential and NOBODY here knows how he'll end up after 4 Years as a Vol when he just might develope and turn into a 1st round draft pick.

The FACT is that's there's lots more 3* recruits now playing in the NFL then there are 4* and 5* kids in the NFL.

CDD and staff DO go after top recruits and I think I heard we had over 150 offers out this year but LOOK at our players dorm that's 40 years old and needs to be replaced and then look at the new apartment dorms other top programs have and guess where a kid would prefer to live for 4 or 5 years.

Look at how much totally useless horsecrap is stirred up constantly that all our coaches suck, can't coach and need to get fired yesterday and tell me how that makes any good recruit want to come to Tennessee.

Look back for 3 YEARS at how many people and how many times it was posted on here that Z Rod sucks, can't catch a cold, hands of stone, called horrid names and has been bashed and belittled to death here on VN and then tell me why any good recruit would want to come to Tennessee and play for people like most on here act.

You people are totally DELUSIONAL and out of your minds if you think that recruits and their parents don't come here to VN to read up and try to learn more things about our program and what SO-CALLED fans are saying.

This happens to be the INTERNET AGE folks and kids and their parents have lots of time to roam around and check out every site on every school that's shown any interest at all in them and their kid.

Kids and their parents don't have to come here to VN and spend 5 hours to see real fast what's said most of the time about our program, coaches, finances, ect, ect or to find threads that totally RIP our own players to shreads with total crap, lies and immature name calling and hate for that kid that's busting his butt trying to learn and get better.

I love Tennessee and I bleed Orange but I would NOT let my kid play for Tennessee even if they offered $10,000. a month in cash payed all in advance before he signed the LOI on National Signing Day the way people around here would treat my son.

Saying the same hate filled crap over and over 10 Million times on 5,000 different threads will NOT change anything but it damn sure CAN hurt our current players and our recruiting efforts.

VFL...GBO!!!

Sir the facts are that no parent or future NFL prospect would want to send their kid here or come here based on performance alone. The parents want to know their kid is being taken care of the prospects themselves want to be given every opportunity to win and get recognition, something that simply isn't happening here. They also want the best chance to develop into the best possible player that they can, something most of our current coaching staff is not capable of. So before you blame the fans for UT's inadequate recruiting class, which ranks 10th in the SEC, consider the real facts that are very well known. Dooley, their perspective coach has never enjoyed a winning season in his coaching career, while at Tennessee he has compiled a total of four SEC wins, something Kiffen did in one season and Kiffen is no coach of the year himself. These prospects have watched him lose to Kentucky and barley edge by teams such as Acron and Troy. Not to mention, they are aware of Dooley breaking all low historical records such as most points ever given up by a D in Tennessee history, most consecutive season starts with an 0-5 record in SEC play, only matched by the powerhouse Vanderbilt and the first loss to Kentucky in over thirty years. Now these are the things the recruits watch on television, the ultimate media. They are well aware of Tennessee's performance under Dooley. This site and the understandably dissatisfied fans plays a minuscule part in recruits decision compared to these other things. That explains why recruiting, like the current program is a dumpster fire with no real chance to improve until leadership changes are made
 
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When opposing recruiters show the recruits clippings that demonstrate the fan base is unstable, it makes it very difficult to recruit.


When opposing recruiters show the recruits the clippings pointing out that TN has lost every meaningful game in this Head coach's tenure at TN, it makes it very difficult to recruit.
 
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Georgia and bama both showed major interest in this kid but they're not in a position to have to go after kids like this right now when they can get 4* and 5* kids to come there.

This is a GOOD prospect at 6'6" tall and 270 pounds who can easily add another 30+ pounds of muscle in our S&C program.

Every year there's LOTS of 4* and 5* kids that turn out to be complete BUSTS but people on here refuse to talk about that side of the coin because they'll never admit when they're totally WRONG about so many things.

You people better take a close look at how many Sophs and Freshmen we're still starting or playing lots of snaps especially on Defence because CDD has brought in some very good kids.

Go tell Stone, Thomas, Hunter, Patterson, Sentimore, McCullers, McNeil, AJ, Maggitt, Randolph and the other 10 to 12 players that will probably play in the NFL when they graduate that they're crap players and have no future in football, LOL!

This kid has great size at his age and great potential and NOBODY here knows how he'll end up after 4 Years as a Vol when he just might develope and turn into a 1st round draft pick.

The FACT is that's there's lots more 3* recruits now playing in the NFL then there are 4* and 5* kids in the NFL.

CDD and staff DO go after top recruits and I think I heard we had over 150 offers out this year but LOOK at our players dorm that's 40 years old and needs to be replaced and then look at the new apartment dorms other top programs have and guess where a kid would prefer to live for 4 or 5 years.

Look at how much totally useless horsecrap is stirred up constantly that all our coaches suck, can't coach and need to get fired yesterday and tell me how that makes any good recruit want to come to Tennessee.

Look back for 3 YEARS at how many people and how many times it was posted on here that Z Rod sucks, can't catch a cold, hands of stone, called horrid names and has been bashed and belittled to death here on VN and then tell me why any good recruit would want to come to Tennessee and play for people like most on here act.

You people are totally DELUSIONAL and out of your minds if you think that recruits and their parents don't come here to VN to read up and try to learn more things about our program and what SO-CALLED fans are saying.

This happens to be the INTERNET AGE folks and kids and their parents have lots of time to roam around and check out every site on every school that's shown any interest at all in them and their kid.

Kids and their parents don't have to come here to VN and spend 5 hours to see real fast what's said most of the time about our program, coaches, finances, ect, ect or to find threads that totally RIP our own players to shreads with total crap, lies and immature name calling and hate for that kid that's busting his butt trying to learn and get better.

I love Tennessee and I bleed Orange but I would NOT let my kid play for Tennessee even if they offered $10,000. a month in cash payed all in advance before he signed the LOI on National Signing Day the way people around here would treat my son.

Saying the same hate filled crap over and over 10 Million times on 5,000 different threads will NOT change anything but it damn sure CAN hurt our current players and our recruiting efforts.

VFL...GBO!!!

The teams in NC contention get 4 and 5 star players, stop with the bust card, it never works. Alabama and UGA never showed real interest. Who the hell is Z Rod?
 
#47
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Z rod - Zach Rodges has been a decent player and finally broke out in his senior year.

As for Dooley, he is unable to recruit 4 and 5 stars becuase he does not win games. Not winning plus the expectation that he will be fired.

Time to cut bait on this failed experiment
 
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