QB Play Hurts Too

#77
#77
i dunno that casey was the dumb to begin with... ainge has the better arm though, that's obvious
 
#78
#78
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Ainge is smarter, but physically there's not much difference. The only difference is Clausen beat Florida two times in a row at Gainesville.
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Manning never beat FL. Ainge is between Clausen and Manning in my opinion. I still think our offense is fine. We can't stop anyone on DEFENSE and our special teams are aweful...why are we all focusing on Ainge? Our problem is not Erik Ainge. Two years ago yes, this year, no.
 
#79
#79
nashvol1 said:
Manning never beat FL. Ainge is between Clausen and Manning in my opinion. I still think our offense is fine. We can't stop anyone on DEFENSE and our special teams are aweful...why are we all focusing on Ainge? Our problem is not Erik Ainge. Two years ago yes, this year, no.
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No, the problem is not Ainge, but are running game isn't capible at this point. I'd put Ainge behind Casey Clausen, at this point. We will see though, that could change, but with a big part of the measuring stick being wins, its not looking good.
 
#80
#80
The Dude said:
No, the problem is not Ainge, but are running game isn't capible at this point. I'd put Ainge behind Casey Clausen, at this point. We will see though, that could change, but with a big part of the measuring stick being wins, its not looking good.
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You can't win without defense. Casey has some great defenses. One of his wins against FL we only gave up 10 points. In the other one, Travis Stephens almost won the Heisman. Ainge has no running game and no defense. Makes it tough to win.

We have never has ST. Win you lose two of the three aspects of the game then winning becomes difficult.
 
#81
#81
nashvol1 said:
You can't win without defense. Casey has some great defenses. One of his wins against FL we only gave up 10 points. In the other one, Travis Stephens almost won the Heisman. Ainge has no running game and no defense. Makes it tough to win.

We have never has ST. Win you lose two of the three aspects of the game then winning becomes difficult.
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Clausen had no running game in 2002 or 2003. The defenses that year weren't very good, either. His wide receiver units those seasons were some of the worst UT has fielded.
 
#82
#82
nashvol1 said:
You can't win without defense. Casey has some great defenses. One of his wins against FL we only gave up 10 points. In the other one, Travis Stephens almost won the Heisman. Ainge has no running game and no defense. Makes it tough to win.

We have never has ST. Win you lose two of the three aspects of the game then winning becomes difficult.
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Clausen did have the benefit of better defenses as a whole, but that 2005 defense was great and we finished with a losing record. They kept us in many games that season, and were on the field most of the games.

Travis Stephens, I don't think, was even invited to NY.

I do agree that its really not fair to pen the FL or Cal loss on Ainge, but like it or not, wins for a QB is a big part of the measuring stick.
 
#83
#83
BigPapaVol said:
Posted this under another title, but decided it needs something more appropriate. Ainge made some horrible throws in big situations yesterday. Seniors are supposed to be the guys that get it done in pressure situations.
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Keep holding your breath on waiting for Ainge to make a play.
 
#84
#84
The Dude said:
Clausen did have the benefit of better defenses as a whole, but that 2005 defense was great and we finished with a losing record. They kept us in many games that season, and were on the field most of the games.

Travis Stephens, I don't think, was even invited to NY.

I do agree that its really not fair to pen the FL or Cal loss on Ainge, but like it or not, wins for a QB is a big part of the measuring stick.
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You are right about Stephens. He was not top-5. I just remembered him getting a lot of pub after the FL game. I guess the loss to LSU hurt his chances to be top-5.

You won't win when you give up 45 and 59 very often.
 
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