QB Change & Dormady play

#1
V

volmandu

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 8, 2011
Messages
1,334
Likes
2,482
#1
I know Gurantano is yet to play meaningful snaps in a big game but I am really worried about how Dormady has a tendency to throw in double/triple coverages and tight windows.
In GT game, he had atleast 3 that could have been easily picked off. Against Florida, one INT in the end zone wasn't completely his fault but two others were bad read. There were at least two other passes where defender almost picked it off.
Now, none of us have seen Gurantano play extensively but Dormady does not look SEC QB to me based on the 3 games I have seen him play. Any chance we see Butch proactively change QB or he will wait till we lose to GA and Bama ?
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#2
#2
You won't see a change unless Q goes down. Here is the problem, the coaching staff has failed to develop both QB's.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 9 people
#4
#4
When Dormady sets his feet, he packs a punch on the ball and is pretty accurate. His problem, in my opinion, is that he trusts his arm strength a lot more than he should. Matt Stafford did this in his freshman year. Not saying QD is that caliber, but its very common for guys with big arms starting for the first time.

However, this debate of JG or QD will happen all season. QD has thrown some horrible passes that he has been lucky on. He's also been unlucky with picks and drops. This is what happens with a first year starter and no experienced receivers. JJ getting hurt was huge and we are seeing first hand how that is impacting us.

I fully expect to see JG get snaps vs UMass, but he still has a lot of work to do if he wants to see meaningful snaps against UGA. We can't put him just for the reason "well if he can't pass, atleast he can run." That is telegraphing our offense. QD also has to get better at reading defenses and simple mechanics. Canales has been a big bust as QB coach.

However, this is all a stupid conversation as we have a stable of quality backs and it is really mind blowing we aren't running the ball 40-50 times a game. We have 3 backs to rotate in. This offense should be throwing only 20 times a game.... Still can't get over Butch allowing us to throw so much.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 7 people
#6
#6
QD makes some poor decisions for sure. What worries me is QD doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 8 people
#7
#7
millst987 said:
QD makes some poor decisions for sure. What worries me is QD doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes.
Click to expand...

He didn't stare down Wolf on that TD. He grew up a little in the last 5-6 minutes against Florida. Hate the result, but he took baby steps against an SEC defense in crunch time.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#8
#8
QD is the choice of coaches. They have developed him as best as possible. You can't simulate a Bama, GT, or UF pass rush. He is learning. He led us to a win in Atlanta, Neyland, and got us to a tie in the Swamp even with the early mistakes that were exacerbated by gaps in blocking and dropped balls.

Bringing in JG, except when the game is under control, is pretty risky. We didn't sit Dobbs last two or three years to play Dormady when Josh was throwing it in the dirt or to the other team and we were losing to South Carolina or Vandy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 8 people
#9
#9
volmandu said:
I know Gurantano is yet to play meaningful snaps in a big game but I am really worried about how Dormady has a tendency to throw in double/triple coverages and tight windows.
In GT game, he had atleast 3 that could have been easily picked off. Against Florida, one INT in the end zone wasn't completely his fault but two others were bad read. There were at least two other passes where defender almost picked it off.
Now, none of us have seen Gurantano play extensively but Dormady does not look SEC QB to me based on the 3 games I have seen him play. Any chance we see Butch proactively change QB or he will wait till we lose to GA and Bama ?
Click to expand...

How about the "almost TDs" or "almost receptions" that he's had, too? Why do people harp so much on the "almost picks" but ignore the other almosts? He had two dropped TDs Saturday, and what, 15 dropped passes in 3 games?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 10 people
#10
#10
The receivers have got to step up and run the routes, that is issue with the coaches. QD is learning and has thrown some bad balls but the interception on the goal line was a timing play that the receiver ran wrong, ball was there.
 
#11
#11
JMSqb11 said:
When Dormady sets his feet, he packs a punch on the ball and is pretty accurate. His problem, in my opinion, is that he trusts his arm strength a lot more than he should. Matt Stafford did this in his freshman year. Not saying QD is that caliber, but its very common for guys with big arms starting for the first time.

However, this debate of JG or QD will happen all season. QD has thrown some horrible passes that he has been lucky on. He's also been unlucky with picks and drops. This is what happens with a first year starter and no experienced receivers. JJ getting hurt was huge and we are seeing first hand how that is impacting us.

I fully expect to see JG get snaps vs UMass, but he still has a lot of work to do if he wants to see meaningful snaps against UGA. We can't put him just for the reason "well if he can't pass, atleast he can run." That is telegraphing our offense. QD also has to get better at reading defenses and simple mechanics. Canales has been a big bust as QB coach.

However, this is all a stupid conversation as we have a stable of quality backs and it is really mind blowing we aren't running the ball 40-50 times a game. We have 3 backs to rotate in. This offense should be throwing only 20 times a game.... Still can't get over Butch allowing us to throw so much.
Click to expand...


We have coaches who, in a practical and real sense, are not very smart. Having a QB audible three games into his career? As if a new QB doesn't have enough to worry about? Who does that? Run the freaking play, run the freaking ball. We should be leaning on all three of our backs in both run and pass game--get them out in space. Throw more to the TE. Play smart....for a change.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 people
#12
#12
armchair said:
We have coaches who, in a practical and real sense, are not very smart. Having a QB audible three games into his career? As if a new QB doesn't have enough to worry about? Who does that? Run the freaking play, run the freaking ball. We should be leaning on all three of our backs in both run and pass game--get them out in space. Throw more to the TE. Play smart....for a change.
Click to expand...

It was a good audible but bad execution If we had ran it would have been blown up
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#13
#13
Big problem is the coaches insist on QD running an offense that requires a pretty mobile QB. QD is not going to strike fear into any SEC defense running the ball. IF the staff wants QD to remain the starter, then help the guy out and tweak the offense to suit him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#14
#14
I have no problem with Dormady playing if he plays a lot smarter football. Some of his decisions have been terrible and they cost the team big time.
 
#15
#15
volmandu said:
I know Gurantano is yet to play meaningful snaps in a big game but I am really worried about how Dormady has a tendency to throw in double/triple coverages and tight windows.
In GT game, he had atleast 3 that could have been easily picked off. Against Florida, one INT in the end zone wasn't completely his fault but two others were bad read. There were at least two other passes where defender almost picked it off.
Now, none of us have seen Gurantano play extensively but Dormady does not look SEC QB to me based on the 3 games I have seen him play. Any chance we see Butch proactively change QB or he will wait till we lose to GA and Bama ?
Click to expand...

200.webp
 
#16
#16
What I don't understand is why we have dormady throwing the ball so much. 37 attempts vs GT and 39 vs Florida. Why put the pressure on a first year qb instead of leaning on the run game.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 people
#17
#17
TexasVolfan1 said:
What I don't understand is why we have dormady throwing the ball so much. 37 attempts vs GT and 39 vs Florida. Why put the pressure on a first year qb instead of leaning on the run game.
Click to expand...

We had to throw a lot vs GT because we were down the whole game. Florida still baffles me.
 
#18
#18
TexasVolfan1 said:
What I don't understand is why we have dormady throwing the ball so much. 37 attempts vs GT and 39 vs Florida. Why put the pressure on a first year qb instead of leaning on the run game.
Click to expand...

He is a Junior who has been in system for two year prior. If he can't take all the throwing than who can ?
 
#19
#19
JMSqb11 said:
When Dormady sets his feet, he packs a punch on the ball and is pretty accurate. His problem, in my opinion, is that he trusts his arm strength a lot more than he should. Matt Stafford did this in his freshman year. Not saying QD is that caliber, but its very common for guys with big arms starting for the first time.

However, this debate of JG or QD will happen all season. QD has thrown some horrible passes that he has been lucky on. He's also been unlucky with picks and drops. This is what happens with a first year starter and no experienced receivers. JJ getting hurt was huge and we are seeing first hand how that is impacting us.

I fully expect to see JG get snaps vs UMass, but he still has a lot of work to do if he wants to see meaningful snaps against UGA. We can't put him just for the reason "well if he can't pass, atleast he can run." That is telegraphing our offense. QD also has to get better at reading defenses and simple mechanics. Canales has been a big bust as QB coach.

However, this is all a stupid conversation as we have a stable of quality backs and it is really mind blowing we aren't running the ball 40-50 times a game. We have 3 backs to rotate in. This offense should be throwing only 20 times a game.... Still can't get over Butch allowing us to throw so much.
Click to expand...

I'm with you on Jennings. That loss hurts more than people have given credit for. I'm not an excuses guy. Still think we should have won the game. But Jennings' toughness and leadership is really missed.
 
#20
#20
TexasVolfan1 said:
What I don't understand is why we have dormady throwing the ball so much. 37 attempts vs GT and 39 vs Florida. Why put the pressure on a first year qb instead of leaning on the run game.
Click to expand...

Hell, why throw it that much when you have JK in the backfield? :banghead2:
 
#21
#21
Vol4ever said:
The receivers have got to step up and run the routes, that is issue with the coaches. QD is learning and has thrown some bad balls but the interception on the goal line was a timing play that the receiver ran wrong, ball was there.
Click to expand...

The defender jumped the route because Dormady was staring down the receiver. He should have never thrown that ball in the first place. #Baddecisions
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#22
#22
TexasVolfan1 said:
It was a good audible but bad execution If we had ran it would have been blown up
Click to expand...

Based on what? John Kelly averaged 7.3 yd per carry against Florida, I think he could have gotten 6 inches pretty easy. Dormady should run the play and not try to get cute!
 
#23
#23
volmandu said:
He is a Junior who has been in system for two year prior. If he can't take all the throwing than who can ?
Click to expand...

We have right now the best back in the league, in JOhn Kelly! Why the heck should we have to throw the ball so much, simple answer we shouldn't be! Dormady doesn't look like a junior who has been in the system 3 years now, Not even close!
 
#24
#24
Im starting JG against Umass to get his mind prepared to start possibly im the future. To get him ready mentally at kickoff and to give him the confidence to throw the ball with the 1st teamer in live play. If he knows he will be back up he wont be mentally prepared enough to be successful imo.
 
#25
#25
Dormady just won't be a star here! he doens't have that "IT" factor like Dobbs, Clausen, or Manning! He is just buying time until another QB takes over, hopefully JG before the season is completely lost!
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top