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I think it is an understatement that everyone is upset with today's loss. But let's slow down with the complete overreaction. I know full well that that's asking a lot from VolNation, though.

There were a lot of mistakes made today and our team will admit that themselves. No one has to point it out for them. But I've been pretty ashamed at some of the reactions that people have had on this forum today.

Our defense was rocking today. Over the span of 60 minutes of football, they held a team to 10 points. TEN. I'm proud of that. We have that area of the game covered right now.

Our offense needs a lot of work. We KNEW coming into this season that both of our lines were going to be brand-spanking-new. This was the THIRD game that our offensive line has played in the lineup that they are in. THREE GAMES. TWO of those linemen, on the right side, are freshmen. They were playing high school football less than a year ago and now they are being asked to block 3, 4, and 5-year SEC veteran defensive players. You have seriously got to cut them some slack. If not, then that's your problem.

I am not an offensive coordinator. I am just a diehard Vol football fan. Yes, there have been times when I questioned Bajakian's playcalling, but that is his job. And it is Butch's job to hold him accountable as well. He's the boss. I DO think it is a little premature to call for his head on a pike before the guy even has a solid offensive lineup to work with. We have our skill positions locked down with plenty of talent. But we have a weak line. Once that line breaks down, it's all over. There's not a lot you have to work with. Plus, the absolute worst thing you could do to this team is to give them a new OC. Sure- let's create some more turmoil in the program since we just now got some staff stability.

There is a lot of big-talk going on around this forum. It's easy for you to say some pretty awful things about our team and our players and our coaches while you hide behind a computer monitor and watch them go to work while you sit on your couch. If you really want to be a man about it, go stand outside the locker room and repeat what you've written here while you're within earshot of the guys that have been up at dawn and in bed at midnight working their asses off. Make sure Emmanuel Moseley hears you, since he used to wake up at 2AM just to scarf down peanut butter sandwiches and milk so he could gain enough wait to be competitive in this league. Make sure Jacob Gilliam hears you- since he tore his ACL in his very first start of his final season and yet still shows up to practice trying to fight his way back onto the field this season.

If you can't stand the thought of not going 10-2 this year, which was as unreasonable now as it was before the season even started, then kindly turn in your fan card and reapply when we start winning all of our games. I've been here though thick and thin and so have many others around here.

It will happen. I'm proud of our young team.

Go Vols
 
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NoogaVFL said:
I think it is an understatement that everyone is upset with today's loss. But let's slow down with the complete overreaction. I know full well that that's asking a lot from VolNation, though.

There were a lot of mistakes made today and our team will admit that themselves. No one has to point it out for them. But I've been pretty ashamed at some of the reactions that people have had on this forum today.

Our defense was rocking today. Over the span of 60 minutes of football, they held a team to 10 points. TEN. I'm proud of that. We have that area of the game covered right now.

Our offense needs a lot of work. We KNEW coming into this season that both of our lines were going to be brand-spanking-new. This was the THIRD game that our offensive line has played in the lineup that they are in. THREE GAMES. TWO of those linemen, on the right side, are freshmen. They were playing high school football less than a year ago and now they are being asked to block 3, 4, and 5-year SEC veteran defensive players. You have seriously got to cut them some slack. If not, then that's your problem.

I am not an offensive coordinator. I am just a diehard Vol football fan. Yes, there have been times when I questioned Bajakian's playcalling, but that is his job. And it is Butch's job to hold him accountable as well. He's the boss. I DO think it is a little premature to call for his head on a pike before the guy even has a solid offensive lineup to work with. We have our skill positions locked down with plenty of talent. But we have a weak line. Once that line breaks down, it's all over. There's not a lot you have to work with. Plus, the absolute worst thing you could do to this team is to give them a new OC. Sure- let's create some more turmoil in the program since we just now got some staff stability.

There is a lot of big-talk going on around this forum. It's easy for you to say some pretty awful things about our team and our players and our coaches while you hide behind a computer monitor and watch them go to work while you sit on your couch. If you really want to be a man about it, go stand outside the locker room and repeat what you've written here while you're within earshot of the guys that have been up at dawn and in bed at midnight working their asses off. Make sure Emmanuel Moseley hears you, since he used to wake up at 2AM just to scarf down peanut butter sandwiches and milk so he could gain enough wait to be competitive in this league. Make sure Jacob Gilliam hears you- since he tore his ACL in his very first start of his final season and yet still shows up to practice trying to fight his way back onto the field this season.

If you can't stand the thought of not going 10-2 this year, which was as unreasonable now as it was before the season even started, then kindly turn in your fan card and reapply when we start winning all of our games. I've been here though thick and thin and so have many others around here.

It will happen. I'm proud of our young team.

Go Vols
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You can enjoy your moral victories all you want. I am sick and tired of the excuses. Bama lit up Florida for over 600 yards by throwing it down the field, yet our coaching staff refused for much of the game to throw it down the field, choosing instead to dink and dunk. The opportunities were there, and if we would have taken advantage of them we could have won this game by a couple of touchdowns.

I am confident that Jones will have our team winning 8 or 9 games by the 2016 season based on the talent he is bringing in. What I am afraid of, however, is that he is going to be about like Jim Donnan. He'll have us loaded with enough talent to allow us to beat UK, Vandy, Mizzuo, USCe ect., but he will never be able to break through and win big games against the SEC elite. I just don't see this staff getting us back to competing for and winning SEC championships. I hope I am wrong.
 
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bhouston79 said:
You can enjoy your moral victories all you want. I am sick and tired of the excuses. Bama lit up Florida for over 600 yards by throwing it down the field, yet our coaching staff refused for much of the game to throw it down the field, choosing instead to dink and dunk. The opportunities were there, and if we would have taken advantage of them we could have won this game by a couple of touchdowns.



I am confident that Jones will have our team winning 8 or 9 games by the 2016 season based on the talent he is bringing in. What I am afraid of, however, is that he is going to be

about like Jim Donnan. He'll have us loaded with enough talent to allow us to beat UK, Vandy, Mizzuo, USCe ect., but he will never be able to break through and win big games against the SEC elite. I just don't see this staff getting us back to competing for and winning SEC championships. I hope I am wrong.
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But look at it this way. Within the next 50 years fla might miss a field goal, ark might fumble, and we might get the backup qb in the title game.
 
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bhouston79 said:
You can enjoy your moral victories all you want. I am sick and tired of the excuses. Bama lit up Florida for over 600 yards by throwing it down the field, yet our coaching staff refused for much of the game to throw it down the field, choosing instead to dink and dunk. The opportunities were there, and if we would have taken advantage of them we could have won this game by a couple of touchdowns.

I am confident that Jones will have our team winning 8 or 9 games by the 2016 season based on the talent he is bringing in. What I am afraid of, however, is that he is going to be about like Jim Donnan. He'll have us loaded with enough talent to allow us to beat UK, Vandy, Mizzuo, USCe ect., but he will never be able to break through and win big games against the SEC elite. I just don't see this staff getting us back to competing for and winning SEC championships. I hope I am wrong.
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This is my fear as well. I remember when this staff lost to TN when they were at Cincinnati. Bray, Hunter and DaRick had huge days and we beat them by 3 TDs, but that game was a lot closer than the score indicated. We couldn't stop them but they stopped themselves with some really dumb play calling.

This staff has major play calling and offensive gameplan issues. For Butch to be here a while, he's either going to have to adjust his system some or find a new offensive coordinator. Bajakian just isn't getting it done consistently.
 
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bhouston79 said:
You can enjoy your moral victories all you want. I am sick and tired of the excuses. Bama lit up Florida for over 600 yards by throwing it down the field, yet our coaching staff refused for much of the game to throw it down the field, choosing instead to dink and dunk. The opportunities were there, and if we would have taken advantage of them we could have won this game by a couple of touchdowns.

I am confident that Jones will have our team winning 8 or 9 games by the 2016 season based on the talent he is bringing in. What I am afraid of, however, is that he is going to be about like Jim Donnan. He'll have us loaded with enough talent to allow us to beat UK, Vandy, Mizzuo, USCe ect., but he will never be able to break through and win big games against the SEC elite. I just don't see this staff getting us back to competing for and winning SEC championships. I hope I am wrong.
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You have to have quick throws when you dont have an OL
 
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bhouston79 said:
You can enjoy your moral victories all you want. I am sick and tired of the excuses. Bama lit up Florida for over 600 yards by throwing it down the field, yet our coaching staff refused for much of the game to throw it down the field, choosing instead to dink and dunk. The opportunities were there, and if we would have taken advantage of them we could have won this game by a couple of touchdowns.

I am confident that Jones will have our team winning 8 or 9 games by the 2016 season based on the talent he is bringing in. What I am afraid of, however, is that he is going to be about like Jim Donnan. He'll have us loaded with enough talent to allow us to beat UK, Vandy, Mizzuo, USCe ect., but he will never be able to break through and win big games against the SEC elite. I just don't see this staff getting us back to competing for and winning SEC championships. I hope I am wrong.
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Hard to throw it down the field when the quarterback has someone in his face or is laying on his ass. People like you piss me off
 
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Its not so much that we lost but the way we lost. We had every opportunity in the world to win that gm with beautiful field position and couldn't even score1 td to win this game. And then we shot ourselfs in the foot with all those false starts and blocks in the back. All that boils down to is coaching and lack of discipline. This was the best chance in yrs to beat FL and we let them beat us with a damn freshman QB in the game! We have a senior QB who plays and makes mistakes like hes a true freshman. Until we can get some descent play on the Oline and a QB who can keep his cool under pressure we will be a 500 team.
 
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The receivers were covered on most of the sacks. Worley had the same amount of time to throw that he had last week put up 32 in that one. They schemed us perfectly and we had no adjustment.
 
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I'm hoping our coaches are learning as they go too since they came from a mid-major conference. This a tough conference and they are seeing weekly what works and what doesn't. With that said, we are still playing a lot of freshmen in a league where Bear Bryant once said every freshman you play = 1 loss.
We are so much better than we have been on defense. We will get there on offense, in time.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
The receivers were covered on most of the sacks. Worley had the same amount of time to throw that he had last week put up 32 in that one. They schemed us perfectly and we had no adjustment.
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^^^ This.

FL had a bye week to scheme for us. Hopefully they don't get a bye before us every year. As much as I despise Muschamp, he is a good defensive coach. He will also win at UF if he can keep an OC more than one year and get some continuity going.
 
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bhouston79 said:
You can enjoy your moral victories all you want. I am sick and tired of the excuses. Bama lit up Florida for over 600 yards by throwing it down the field, yet our coaching staff refused for much of the game to throw it down the field, choosing instead to dink and dunk. The opportunities were there, and if we would have taken advantage of them we could have won this game by a couple of touchdowns.

I am confident that Jones will have our team winning 8 or 9 games by the 2016 season based on the talent he is bringing in. What I am afraid of, however, is that he is going to be about like Jim Donnan. He'll have us loaded with enough talent to allow us to beat UK, Vandy, Mizzuo, USCe ect., but he will never be able to break through and win big games against the SEC elite. I just don't see this staff getting us back to competing for and winning SEC championships. I hope I am wrong.
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*OC Reads post*
*Calls several deep balls*

The next day:
"if Bakijan would just throw some ****ing short passes instead of leaving the OLine to block for several seconds, maybe something would get done!"
 
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givem6 said:
But look at it this way. Within the next 50 years fla might miss a field goal, ark might fumble, and we might get the backup qb in the title game.
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Thanks for giving me the chance to try out this here ignore button. I've been wondering how it works.
 
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Great original post. In a week, this board went from worrying that Michigan would steal Butch to calling him a an underperforming cheerleader. Some are already complaining about winning 8 games in 2016 and bring the next Jim Donnan. Really?
 
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OP:

Good Post
I don't like the play calling, or the scheme, but the coaches are learning too. They'll figure it out.

Those who've given up:
You are a quiter. Please turn in your fan card.
 
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Don't under estimate Kentucky! I agree that the offense need to improve. If we can hold the other team under 20 we have a chance as long as the team can accomplish what we did against UGA. However, SC, Bama and Missouri can put up points.
 
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spazzyvol said:
Peanut butter sandwiches and milk? No jelly? He's doing it all wrong.
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I think we need a graphic in the header for the main page with something about this..

I know with this message board software you can put graphics up above the forums and sub-forums :hi:
 
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Some people think the coaches are so blatantly dumb that they wouldn't think to throw down the field. Like it's such a freaking revelation. That's great when your Alabama, have a great running game, and an NFL offensive line.
It's not great when teams can rush 3 or 4 and not only get to Worley, but get there in a hurry. If people would use their brain they'd see that this leaves the rest of the D to cover and if they cover well, we can not move the ball.
Period, regardless if we're in a pro style, West coast, spread, whatever you want run.
 
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