Population of each SEC State

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Tex: 25.3 m
Fla: 19.2 m
Ga: 9.8 m
Tn: 6.4 m
Mo: 6.0 m
Ala: 4.8 m
SC : 4.6 m
La.: 4.5 m
Ky : 4.3 m
Miss: 2.9 m
Ark: 2.9 m

Is Tenn HS FB so bad that even though Tenn is the 4th most populated state in the SEC, UT has to outspend every team in the SEC to recruit? Even if the HS FB is not good in Tenn, there are 2 million more people in Tenn than Alabama, SC, La., and kentucky and 3 1/2 million more than Miss and Ark. What gives?
 
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Brooktrout said:
Tex: 25.3 m
Fla: 19.2 m
Ga: 9.8 m
Tn: 6.4 m
Mo: 6.0 m
Ala: 4.8 m
SC : 4.6 m
La.: 4.5 m
Ky : 4.3 m
Miss: 2.9 m
Ark: 2.9 m

Is Tenn HS FB so bad that even though Tenn is the 4th most populated state in the SEC, UT has to outspend every team in the SEC to recruit? Even if the HS FB is not good in Tenn, there are 2 million more people in Tenn than Alabama, SC, La., and kentucky and 3 1/2 million more than Miss and Ark. What gives?
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Wins talk, Losses Walk.
 
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Yeah, that is a good point.

Here is Tenn demographics up to 2000:

1980 1990 2000
Number Percent Number Percent Number Percent
Total Population 4,591,120 100.00% 4,877,185 100.00% 5,689,283 100.00%
Total Hispanics 34,077 0.74% 32,741 0.67% 123,838 2.18%
White* 3,812,949 83.05% 4,027,631 82.58% 4,505,930 79.20%
Black* 718,871 15.66% 774,925 15.89% 928,204 16.31%
American Indian and Eskimo* 5,103 0.11% 9,685 0.20% 13,820 0.24%
Asian* 13,934 0.30% 30,938 0.63% 56,077 0.99%
Hawaiian and Pacific Islander* - - - - 1,810 0.03%
Other* 6,186 0.13% 1,265 0.03% 4,780 0.08%
Two or More Races* - - - - 54,824 0.96%
 
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Well a lot of things contribute to that. First the prevalance of basketball and baseball in this state. Quite a few of the best athletes in TN never play football. Also youth football is still largely in its infancy or non existant in some parts of the state. Then one side of the state has great coaching and mediocre to good athletes for the most part and the other has great athletes and poor to mediocre coaching
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The black population in central and east tennessee isn't as high as in all of Alabama, Georgia, and Louisiana. Memphis maybe.
 
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AstonRoyal said:
The black population in central and east tennessee isn't as high as in all of Alabama, Georgia, and Louisiana. Memphis maybe.
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Black, White, Purple, or Green, what does Tennessee do to cultivate and develop its in-state populations? That means having a presence and hand in county and city sports groups. Ball parks, encouraging locals to be part of the same and perhaps something like a concept I first saw in California. It was called "Passport to College" where starting with elementary kids, community and regular college teachers taught weekly study skills and time budgeting, basic math and reading skills on the college campus for about 4 weeks a pop. Class were kept short (35 minutes) and then the kids went outside to learn how sports employed the very skills they learned in the class sessions. Sessions were upgraded for middle school and again high school. Added for high school was learning to select and get along with a roommate, renting an apartment and other skills you'd need as a college student including, believe it or not, how to properly fill out various types of forms. I stress that parents were required to be part of this concept.

The idea was to provide essential personal and academic skills starting very young that kids would need to qualify and enroll in AND complete a college program whether community college or state university. Athletes came in better prepared as a result. If I recall right sessios for high schoolers included integrating sports rules, statistics, and game planning into the academic portion of the program. Don't know if Passport to College still happens, maybe check Riverside County which is where I saw it happen back in the 1990's. Maybe Tennessee could learn something from that so in-state talent availability increases.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Black, White, Purple, or Green, what does Tennessee do to cultivate and develop its in-state populations? That means having a presence and hand in county and city sports groups. Ball parks, encouraging locals to be part of the same and perhaps something like a concept I first saw in California. It was called "Passport to College" where starting with elementary kids, community and regular college teachers taught weekly study skills and time budgeting, basic math and reading skills on the college campus for about 4 weeks a pop. Class were kept short (35 minutes) and then the kids went outside to learn how sports employed the very skills they learned in the class sessions. Sessions were upgraded for middle school and again high school. Added for high school was learning to select and get along with a roommate, renting an apartment and other skills you'd need as a college student including, believe it or not, how to properly fill out various types of forms. I stress that parents were required to be part of this concept.

The idea was to provide essential personal and academic skills starting very young that kids would need to qualify and enroll in AND complete a college program whether community college or state university. Athletes came in better prepared as a result. If I recall right sessios for high schoolers included integrating sports rules, statistics, and game planning into the academic portion of the program. Don't know if Passport to College still happens, maybe check Riverside County which is where I saw it happen back in the 1990's. Maybe Tennessee could learn something from that so in-state talent availability increases.
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How do they do it in SE Asia?
 
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98utvols said:
African American population map of U.S

CensusScope -- Demographic Maps: African-American Population
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There's a whole lot of yellow on that map everywhere not named Memphis. :ermm:

UT needs to begin facilitating dialog with suburban high school coaches around Nashville in particular and mabey even north Alabama/Huntsville. Memphis has always been shady and the pull of LSU, Bama, and Arky is strong but we can't keep losing guys to MissSt and Miss. That's simply unacceptable. It would also be nice if more HS coaches in TN taught an offense that was similar to the pro model UT has traditionally used. The single wing should be outlawed. :twocents:

If we can return to respectability this year our coaches might have a shot at raiding the talent rich Carolinas, Virgina, and even Maryland. Proximity might help us out in that region but they won't come until we stop sucking.
 
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Brooktrout said:
Yeah, that is a good point.

Here is Tenn demographics up to 2000:

1980 1990 2000
Number Percent Number Percent Number Percent
Total Population 4,591,120 100.00% 4,877,185 100.00% 5,689,283 100.00%
Total Hispanics 34,077 0.74% 32,741 0.67% 123,838 2.18%
White* 3,812,949 83.05% 4,027,631 82.58% 4,505,930 79.20%
Black* 718,871 15.66% 774,925 15.89% 928,204 16.31%
American Indian and Eskimo* 5,103 0.11% 9,685 0.20% 13,820 0.24%
Asian* 13,934 0.30% 30,938 0.63% 56,077 0.99%
Hawaiian and Pacific Islander* - - - - 1,810 0.03%
Other* 6,186 0.13% 1,265 0.03% 4,780 0.08%
Two or More Races* - - - - 54,824 0.96%
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At the rate the black population is rising, I'd say within the next 10-20 years we will have great HS FB teams to populate our Vols. Can't wait
 
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Also look at where its largest city, Memphis, is. Memphis is 400 miles from Knoxville, and Starkville, Oxford, Fayetteville and Tuscaloosa are a lot closer to that talent pool.
 
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Voldemonium said:
There's a whole lot of yellow on that map everywhere not named Memphis. :ermm:

UT needs to begin facilitating dialog with suburban high school coaches around Nashville in particular and mabey even north Alabama/Huntsville. Memphis has always been shady and the pull of LSU, Bama, and Arky is strong but we can't keep losing guys to MissSt and Miss. That's simply unacceptable. It would also be nice if more HS coaches in TN taught an offense that was similar to the pro model UT has traditionally used. The single wing should be outlawed. :twocents:

If we can return to respectability this year our coaches might have a shot at raiding the talent rich Carolinas, Virgina, and even Maryland. Proximity might help us out in that region but they won't come until we stop sucking.
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If Virginia and Maryland are indeed talent rich states it does not appear to be reflected in the accomplishments of their Flagship State Universities.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Why don't African-Americans like Tennessee?
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For southern blacks fleeing the south during the 50-60's TN was "flyover" country on their way to Indy, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Cleveland, etc. There are plenty of northerners coming south today however it seems the great majority are white. The poor blacks that relocated to rustbelt cities seem to lack the mobility or desire to return south.

No worries Travis Henry will singlehandedly save us! :eek:lol:
 
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Brooktrout said:
If Virginia and Maryland are indeed talent rich states it does not appear to be reflected in the accomplishments of their Flagship State Universities.
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Virginia and Maryland are prime hunting grounds for VT, Penn state, West Virginia, NC, and even Tennessee to name a few.
 
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