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i have a really really good feeling about poole and i know the feelings about him around volnation are already positive but he's a stud that never was hyped up and all he needs is a shot. he's starving after riding pine so long. watch, he'll be a good one for us. Go Vols
 
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If Hiestand can conjur up even a mediocre offensive line, TP could rush for more yards than Hardesty had last year. He makes quicker cuts and he maintains balance really well. Only knock on him is that he isn't as strong as MH (or BB), so he won't be able to push the pile. But that's why we have Toney Williams. Also, I don't know how he is at protecting the ball. I guarantee he won't be better than Hardesty was, since he NEVER fumbled while at UT... not once....
 
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Squoshua17 said:
If Hiestand can conjur up even a mediocre offensive line, TP could rush for more yards than Hardesty had last year. He makes quicker cuts and he maintains balance really well. Only knock on him is that he isn't as strong as MH (or BB), so he won't be able to push the pile. But that's why we have Toney Williams. Also, I don't know how he is at protecting the ball. I guarantee he won't be better than Hardesty was, since he NEVER fumbled while at UT... not once....
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I forgot about that. That will not be dublicated anytime soon imo.
 
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We all know he IS the goods. Just hope the O-line can help him prove it to us.
 
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Squoshua17 said:
If Hiestand can conjur up even a mediocre offensive line, TP could rush for more yards than Hardesty had last year. He makes quicker cuts and he maintains balance really well. Only knock on him is that he isn't as strong as MH (or BB), so he won't be able to push the pile. But that's why we have Toney Williams. Also, I don't know how he is at protecting the ball. I guarantee he won't be better than Hardesty was, since he NEVER fumbled while at UT... not once....
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A stark contrast to Foster.
 
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if we don't have a line for him to run through then there is no chance of him getting anywhere near hardesty's numbers last year. don't get me wrong...i would love to see it...but i just don't see it happening, especially this season.
 
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i agree with you guys on poole, i think he is going to be a big surprise to the other sec teams, but i also think our o-line is going to be better than expected to...
 
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Squoshua17 said:
If Hiestand can conjur up even a mediocre offensive line, TP could rush for more yards than Hardesty had last year.
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On the first part, IF Hiestand can get a line that does play mediocre, he should be the national assistant coach of the year.

On the second part, there is nothing he can do that would get any running back we have to match what Hardesty did. Talent nor experience is there yet. Don't take this wrong, there are some very young lineman with potential to have SEC talent, it just will not be able to mature this year to SEC level talent.

UT fans need to be ready for a long season that may end up the worse season since the formation of the SEC.
 
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LWSVOL said:
On the first part, IF Hiestand can get a line that does play mediocre, he should be the national assistant coach of the year.

On the second part, there is nothing he can do that would get any running back we have to match what Hardesty did. Talent nor experience is there yet. Don't take this wrong, there are some very young lineman with potential to have SEC talent, it just will not be able to mature this year to SEC level talent.

UT fans need to be ready for a long season that may end up the worse season since the formation of the SEC.
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I'm fired up now.
 
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Not doubting Poole's ability here but why do you wonder Kiffin had the kid buried 4th on the depth chart last season? Did he not impress anyone on the staff in 2009? Many even had him ahead of Brown this spring. I also think Oku is every under-rated and is set to have a big year if the oline can be established.
 
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superdawg51 said:
Not doubting Poole's ability here but why do you wonder Kiffin had the kid buried 4th on the depth chart last season? Did he not impress anyone on the staff in 2009? Many even had him ahead of Brown this spring. I also think Oku is every under-rated and is set to have a big year if the oline can be established.
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Of course it is "his" opinion but there was a published story on Poole earlier. IIRC he openly suggested that it was a recruiting ploy by CLK. He claimed he was the 2nd best back on the team last year, that he was in CLK's ear about PT on a pretty regular basis, and that CLK never denied he was the second best back on the team. In the same article, there were quotes from other players... very politically stated.... that indirectly confirmed what he claimed about being behind on MH in practice performance.

If the article comes close to the truth, the kid deserves props for maintaining his attitude as well as he did.
 
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If you think Poole will be a beast this year... wait until his senior year. It will be special.
 
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gotta understand about BB playing ahead of Poole is this he was CLK's recruit. Sometimes coaches would rather play their recruits than the better recruit. Remember Major Applewhite and Chris Simms at Texas, Applewhite was the better QB for that team and he had to come into a lot of games that year to save that team. I dont know which is better but it wouldn't amaze me if Poole turned out to be better than BB.


Rusty
 
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Never once saw BB break a tackle or move a pile and was always getting knocked out with some kinda injury ... where is the he's strong thing coming from? Oku looks strong, BB looks fragile ... I mean agile.
 
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Never once saw BB break a tackle or move a pile and was always getting knocked out with some kinda injury ... where is the he's strong thing coming from? Oku looks strong, BB looks fragile ... I mean agile.
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Brown looks anything but fragile. 220-230lb back that is bigger, stronger and faster than Poole. It sucks he may be leaving but there are reasons someone is named the top prospect in the country.
 
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superdawg51 said:
Not doubting Poole's ability here but why do you wonder Kiffin had the kid buried 4th on the depth chart last season? Did he not impress anyone on the staff in 2009? Many even had him ahead of Brown this spring. I also think Oku is every under-rated and is set to have a big year if the oline can be established.
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Poole was very impressive last spring, so was T Williams, but when you have an obvious starter in Hardesty and two hot shot freshman with Brown and Oku to keep happy it isnt hard to see why Poole didnt see the field much. that and the fact that Poole had a serious fumbling problem.
 
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thebjd said:
Brown looks anything but fragile. 220-230lb back that is bigger,
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Yes...
stronger
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No....
and faster than Poole.
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Probably but if you can't make a cut or see a hole to get yourself into space... it doesn't matter.
It sucks he may be leaving but there are reasons someone is named the top prospect in the country.
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Yeah. He's big, strong, fast, and ran over HS competition. That does not mean he will ever develop the kind of refined RB skills that it takes to be successful.

UT has a long and distinguished history of finding 5* busts.... Kenny O'Neal was said by many to be the best JUCO player in the country a few years ago.

Out of about 17 5* players UT has signed since 2002, only Meachem, Berry, and maybe Jackson have really lived up to their billing.

People try to make this case by pointing to the past success of Rivals' #1 players. What gets lost is that 8 of the other nine #1 players came from power HSFB states. One guy came out of MD.

Kansas by far is the weakest HSFB state to produce a Rivals #1 player... therefore it was the most risky call by them.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes... No.... Probably but if you can't make a cut or see a hole to get yourself into space... it doesn't matter.

Yeah. He's big, strong, fast, and ran over HS competition. That does not mean he will ever develop the kind of refined RB skills that it takes to be successful.

UT has a long and distinguished history of finding 5* busts.... Kenny O'Neal was said by many to be the best JUCO player in the country a few years ago.

Out of about 17 5* players UT has signed since 2002, only Meachem, Berry, and maybe Jackson have really lived up to their billing.

People try to make this case by pointing to the past success of Rivals' #1 players. What gets lost is that 8 of the other nine #1 players came from power HSFB states. One guy came out of MD.

Kansas by far is the weakest HSFB state to produce a Rivals #1 player... therefore it was the most risky call by them.
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I hope Poole is as good as you say. I just haven't seen enough to know. I like the big run in the scrimmage. It looks like he will be our guy if Brown leaves, I just don't think everyone should jump on Bryce if may be staying. Poole's average yard per carry his freshman year was 3.9 and that was primarily against Wyoming and UAB. Just saying.

RUSHING AVG AVG HIGH
YEAR G ATT YDS ATT GM TD LONG YDS
2008 12 22 86 3.9 7.2 0 19-UAB 44-Wyo
 
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Once again, I'm not making a prediction concerning Poole. I love his story, work ethic, et al. But he hasn't proven enough for me to say he's good much less great.

I am not jumping on BB. I hope he stays and reaches his potential which is probably higher than Poole's.

I AM jumping on people who have assumed that his HS ranking has anything to do with him being a shoe in to start if he stays. I AM jumping on people who watched him play last year just like me and aren't recognizing that his game is seriously lacking refined RB skills. The most impressive play he made to me last year was a swing pass he caught and made a nice gain with... they found a way to create space for him and he showed a flash of that speed. But he just didn't show the ability to find or make his own space to run in.

Poole may not have as much ability once he gets the space but he's shown more signs of being able to find/make it IMO.
 
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sjt18 said:
Once again, I'm not making a prediction concerning Poole. I love his story, work ethic, et al. But he hasn't proven enough for me to say he's good much less great.

I am not jumping on BB. I hope he stays and reaches his potential which is probably higher than Poole's.

I AM jumping on people who have assumed that his HS ranking has anything to do with him being a shoe in to start if he stays. I AM jumping on people who watched him play last year just like me and aren't recognizing that his game is seriously lacking refined RB skills. The most impressive play he made to me last year was a swing pass he caught and made a nice gain with... they found a way to create space for him and he showed a flash of that speed. But he just didn't show the ability to find or make his own space to run in.

Poole may not have as much ability once he gets the space but he's shown more signs of being able to find/make it IMO.
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I think that catch was the TD against Ohio. Not really much to see except his breakaway speed and ability to catch the ball. We are not hurting at the position even if we go past those two players. I just think some are getting way too excited over Poole and wanting to dump on Brown because he was the prize Kiffin recruit.
 
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