Poll: Will you cry if GMac is not the starter?

Will you cry if GMac is not the starter?

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#77
#77
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Harrison Bailey was a highly rated 4/5* QB.
Jake Merklinger was a highly rated 4* QB.

HS ratings do not mean you've got the skills to be an SEC QB. If they did QB recruiting would be much, much easier.

We've got essentially no data on G-Mac or Faizon and going by "they've got a lot of stars in their recruiting profile" is just not enough as it wasn't with Bailey or Merk.
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You are correct with that, but you also have no evidence as to why he will fail. Harrison Bailey had the misfortune of being part of a team with one of the worst coaching staff's overall in UT History. His success or lack thereof is most assuredly staff related. Jake Merklinger is a really good QB, just not for CJH's system. This system requires the ability to make lightning fast, good decisions. If you have to think what to do after the snap, you have no chance. All reports are that G-MAC can make those decisions but for reasons I called out in my first post, he was not put in harm's way as a true freshman. Have you been to practices, or in the QB room? Do you have any inside information that the coaching staff was worried? All indications are that they are happy with what they have in the QB room.
 
#78
#78
Pride85 said:
You are correct with that, but you also have no evidence as to why he will fail. Harrison Bailey had the misfortune of being part of a team with one of the worst coaching staff's overall in UT History. His success or lack thereof is most assuredly staff related. Jake Merklinger is a really good QB, just not for CJH's system. This system requires the ability to make lightning fast, good decisions. If you have to think what to do after the snap, you have no chance. All reports are that G-MAC can make those decisions but for reasons I called out in my first post, he was not put in harm's way as a true freshman. Have you been to practices, or in the QB room? Do you have any inside information that the coaching staff was worried? All indications are that they are happy with what they have in the QB room.
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The main indication was that Leavitt spent 2 days in Knoxville and Simpson was repeatedly on his radar also.

My point is that saying "we've got great QBs already in the room" is not something we can know. We've got highly rated HS QBs in the room and, unlike Merk (I'm assuming here,) G-Mac wasn't encouraged to hit the portal.

As for G-Mac "being a better fit?" or "being able to make those decisions".... I'll return your questions: Were you at practice? Have you seen more than Fingers videos and small press blurbs?
 
#79
#79
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Harrison Bailey was a highly rated 4/5* QB.
Jake Merklinger was a highly rated 4* QB.

HS ratings do not mean you've got the skills to be an SEC QB. If they did QB recruiting would be much, much easier.

We've got essentially no data on G-Mac or Faizon and going by "they've got a lot of stars in their recruiting profile" is just not enough as it wasn't with Bailey or Merk.
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I love the SEC as much as the next guy but let’s keep it real, what does SEC QB even mean?? Our conference doesn’t really produce a ton of big time QB’s. The majority of the teams in our league has a fully built roster with a game manager at QB.
 
#80
#80
901 Orange said:
I love the SEC as much as the next guy but let’s keep it real, what does SEC QB even mean?? Our conference doesn’t really produce a ton of big time QB’s. The majority of the teams in our league has a fully built roster with a game manager at QB.
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Well, Bailey washed out at UNLV, Louisville, and last I heard walked on at FL. Maurer retired from football before he used his eligibility at some little school in TX.

Those weren't SEC QBs. They were, however, highly rated HS QBs which is what lots of people are basing remarks like "We have a couple of good QBs in the room."

The SEC has produced about as many QBs that have done well in the NFL as any other conference.

My issue is people blowing up expectations for G-Mac or Faizon based on "they've got stars so they're good." Bailey and Maurer had stars too.
 
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#81
#81
I respectfully dusag
Pride85 said:
You are correct with that, but you also have no evidence as to why he will fail. Harrison Bailey had the misfortune of being part of a team with one of the worst coaching staff's overall in UT History. His success or lack thereof is most assuredly staff related. Jake Merklinger is a really good QB, just not for CJH's system. This system requires the ability to make lightning fast, good decisions. If you have to think what to do after the snap, you have no chance. All reports are that G-MAC can make those decisions but for reasons I called out in my first post, he was not put in harm's way as a true freshman. Have you been to practices, or in the QB room? Do you have any inside information that the coaching staff was worried? All indications are that they are happy with what they have in the QB room
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#82
#82
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Well, Bailey washed out at UNLV, Louisville, and last I heard walked on at FL. Maurer retired from football before he used his eligibility at some little school in TX.

Those weren't SEC QBs. They were, however, highly rated HS QBs which is what lots of people are basing remarks like "We have a couple of good QBs in the room."

The SEC has produced about as many QBs that have done well in the NFL as any other conference.

My issue is people blowing up expectations for G-Mac or Faizon based on "they've got stars so they're good." Bailey and Maurer had stars too.
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I mean we can list 100’s of highly rated QB’s that don’t pan out and 100’s that got looked over but turned out to be ballers.

I’m on this SEC QB part. I believe at that position in particular, that if you can play, you’ll be good no matter where you play.

If we just use your 2 examples (Bailey & Maurer) They didn’t drop to a lower conference and become All-American. They couldn’t play.
If you look at JA. The dude played on every level known to man and by all accounts he could play. The ratings only tell you their talent level. Takes a lot more than that to be a successful QB
 
#83
#83
901 Orange said:
I mean we can list 100’s of highly rated QB’s that don’t pan out and 100’s that got looked over but turned out to be ballers.

I’m on this SEC QB part. I believe at that position in particular, that if you can play, you’ll be good no matter where you play.

If we just use your 2 examples (Bailey & Maurer) They didn’t drop to a lower conference and become All-American. They couldn’t play.
If you look at JA. The dude played on every level known to man and by all accounts he could play. The ratings only tell you their talent level. Takes a lot more than that to be a successful QB
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It does. The SEC and B1G play the highest level of college football year in and year out. They also hire the best coaches from other conferences and elsewhere. They tend to have the best resources to evaluate position players and recruit well.

I'm not sure I buy that it "means more" as much as the SEC uses "more means" on recruiting. They spend a lot of time, money, and effort to get talented players and develop them.

My issue is with the essentially blind statement that G-Mac and Faizon are good just because they were good in HS.

As you say, it takes much more than that to make an SEC QB and we don't have any idea if they "have it" or not.
 
#86
#86
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
What Joey would mean is stability and a known commodity while G-Mac and Faizon are unknown commodities.

Literally, a QB in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.
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Thing is they are not commodities. You can weigh them and measure them, but who knows which one will step up in games and lead the team successfully? JA had his rolls, but that guy also threw game losing INTs that no QB should throw.
 
#87
#87
FanDude said:
Thing is they are not commodities. You can weigh them and measure them, but who knows which one will step up in games and lead the team successfully? JA had his rolls, but that guy also threw game losing INTs that no QB should throw.
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The point with Joey was he has experience and G-Mac and Faizon don't. Experience matters. We just saw Indiana and Vandy have the best seasons they've had in a long time because of a bunch of experience.

Joey would've brought experience and G-Mac and Faizon cannot.
 
#88
#88
I clicked on YES for the heck of it. Yes I’m pulling hard for GMac. Who doesn’t want a TN boy that grew up a Vols fan running the game behind center? If Faizon or Staub wins the job, it is what it is. We just have to accept it and hope that Hype doesn’t screw it up like he did between Hooker and Milton. As we’ve all seen, there are practice warriors that can’t get’r dun during games (Milton) and there are guys that don’t practice well but turn it up on game day (Hooker).
 
#89
#89
Pride85 said:
You are correct with that, but you also have no evidence as to why he will fail. Harrison Bailey had the misfortune of being part of a team with one of the worst coaching staff's overall in UT History. His success or lack thereof is most assuredly staff related. Jake Merklinger is a really good QB, just not for CJH's system. This system requires the ability to make lightning fast, good decisions. If you have to think what to do after the snap, you have no chance. All reports are that G-MAC can make those decisions but for reasons I called out in my first post, he was not put in harm's way as a true freshman. Have you been to practices, or in the QB room? Do you have any inside information that the coaching staff was worried? All indications are that they are happy with what they have in the QB room.
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Exactly, if the coaching staff was stressing over the QB situation they would’ve gone all out to gets Sorsby or the other top QB in the portal but they didn’t. By all accounts the UT staff made a half hearted attempt to get the one that had family ties to UT / Knoxville while hoping that having family close would be enough to accept less money. It didn’t work out.
I’m NOT worried one iota about GMac, Faizon, or Staub. I’m pulling hard for GMac though. I’d love to have a TN boy that grew up an Vols fan under center.
 
#90
#90
VolRage said:
Exactly, if the coaching staff was stressing over the QB situation they would’ve gone all out to gets Sorsby or the other top QB in the portal but they didn’t. By all accounts the UT staff made a half hearted attempt to get the one that had family ties to UT / Knoxville while hoping that having family close would be enough to accept less money. It didn’t work out.
I’m NOT worried one iota about GMac, Faizon, or Staub. I’m pulling hard for GMac though. I’d love to have a TN boy that grew up an Vols fan under center.
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You don't think Leavitt extending his visit to UT by a day and Lane Kiffin feeling the need to fly into Knoxville to talk with Leavitt AFTER that extension (it couldn't have been planned for Kiffin to come since the extension was unexpected) indicates that they were rather interested in Leavitt coming to Knoxville so much so that Kiffin took notice and made a special trip?
 
#91
#91
GetEmVols said:
Remember when everyone cried for Harrison Bailey..
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We're not crying for anyone. George has just been in the system a whole year, was a highly rated recruit from our home state, has an absolutely beautiful throw, and one of the best highlight films I've ever seen from a Tennessee QB. Nico didn't have even close to the kind of throws that George can make. Hell he was clearly the best passer in the orange and white game last year. Nobody's saying he has to start or we'll get upset, just that everything including who his HC is point to him having a great chance at doing big things here. If Faizon is the better game manager, make him the starter, but my money is on George from what I've seen
 
#93
#93
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
You don't think Leavitt extending his visit to UT by a day and Lane Kiffin feeling the need to fly into Knoxville to talk with Leavitt AFTER that extension (it couldn't have been planned for Kiffin to come since the extension was unexpected) indicates that they were rather interested in Leavitt coming to Knoxville so much so that Kiffin took notice and made a special trip?
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Austin Price was quoted, “Financially, I don’t know if they (UT) were all in or not (on Leavitt)”. Rumors are that UT offered Leavitt in the $4M to $5M range. LSU offered $6M. If Leavitt was the kid with Knoxville ties (I can’t recall and don’t care) he went to LSU for $1M to $2M more vs playing for UT for less and having his family close by. So he went for the money which was what I said in my previous post. Also, if UT really wanted him, UT would’ve ponied up but they didn’t. They thought he was worth $4M to $5M and that’s it. I think Huepel knows what he has in the QB room and what he has coming in (Faizon) so he’s not stressing about the QB position. I’m definitely not stressing.
 
#95
#95
VolRage said:
Austin Price was quoted, “Financially, I don’t know if they (UT) were all in or not (on Leavitt)”. Rumors are that UT offered Leavitt in the $4M to $5M range. LSU offered $6M. If Leavitt was the kid with Knoxville ties (I can’t recall and don’t care) he went to LSU for $1M to $2M more vs playing for UT for less and having his family close by. So he went for the money which was what I said in my previous post. Also, if UT really wanted him, UT would’ve ponied up but they didn’t. They thought he was worth $4M to $5M and that’s it. I think Huepel knows what he has in the QB room and what he has coming in (Faizon) so he’s not stressing about the QB position. I’m definitely not stressing.
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We were close enough to all in on Leavitt that he stayed another day in Knoxville and Lane Kiffin chose to fly up for Knoxville to talk to Leavitt but tell yourself whatever you need to tell yourself.

G-Mac or Faizon or Joey A, for that matter, were not our first choice for QB1 in 2026 if we could've gotten Leavitt or Simpson.

I'm not anti G-Mac nor anyone else Heupel might start but that doesn't mean I have to go blind to Heupel trying to recruit over them.
 
#96
#96
madbamahater said:
The most famous player on any roster is the backup QB and at UT, per tons of Tennessee fans, it's now the backup to the backup. Tennessee's best chance to make the playoffs was Aguilar, but that ship has sailed. Over the past few months I'm afraid so many have put so much stock in a guy that is extremely unproven and there is no indication that I can find that the starting role is his to lose. Am I hopeful he'll be the guy and lead us to the promised land? Sure, why not. I pull for anyone that is leading the Vols. Should people pump the breaks a bit? Yes, absolutely. Unfortunately, like many within VolNation do, they have branded this guy the clear-cut starter and best ever.
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Where is the option for indubitably?
 
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#97
#97
madbamahater said:
The most famous player on any roster is the backup QB and at UT, per tons of Tennessee fans, it's now the backup to the backup. Tennessee's best chance to make the playoffs was Aguilar, but that ship has sailed. Over the past few months I'm afraid so many have put so much stock in a guy that is extremely unproven and there is no indication that I can find that the starting role is his to lose. Am I hopeful he'll be the guy and lead us to the promised land? Sure, why not. I pull for anyone that is leading the Vols. Should people pump the breaks a bit? Yes, absolutely. Unfortunately, like many within VolNation do, they have branded this guy the clear-cut starter and best ever.
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I doubt I'll ever cry over anything that ever happens. Id suggest you go hug your wife and kids if that's something you have. Its not that important
 
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