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Cartervol

Cartervol

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Someone please tell me why everyone and their mama is picking Cal.Did i miss something.I mean i know ainge has a broke pinky but what gives here?:dunno:
 
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I guess last year means nothing in the eyes of some.Cal better hope those receivers are as good as advertised,or they will lose again.
 
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It's probably better for us to be the underdog anyway. We seem to play better when we are. Just like last year, no one expected us to win and now it's the same thing this year...but WHO CARES?
 
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Who cares what the media thinks? As long as the guys with the power T on their helmets believe, it will all work out.
 
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"We play better as the underdog" is on the verge of replacing the woo in Rocky Top as my arch enemy.
 
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let's see:

they have the supposed best receiver in the nation
their QB is on some sleeper lists as AA material
the game is AT Cal
We looked like hell against PSU
Our receiving corps has as much experience as I do
Our gamebreaker RB is suspended for the game
Our QB has pinky issues
Our secondary has a bit more experience than our WRs but not much

I can see them being the favorite on paper. In the real world, a totally different story IMO.

As for last year's shellacking, I think the media (and Cal) are boiling it down to the intimidating stadium resulting in poor play on Cal's part. What they're missing is the talent differential. Their D did not play poorly because of the environment. It just plain didn't have the athletes to play. Our pathetic running game looked like Nebraska under Osborne (little did we know that was a sham and due to their ineptitude, moreso than our ability).

I think the media is missing the boat, but the Vegas oddsmakers don't typically miss the boat near unanimously without some convincing information.
 
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Media heads go with the Vegas favorites 99% of the time. Vegas sets the line to get equal action on either side. The public in general thinks cal will win by 6 points. It will be interesting to see if the line moves at game time - which means the smart money (read knowledgable bettors) is on the Vols.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Media heads go with the Vegas favorites 99% of the time. Vegas sets the line to get equal action on either side. The public in general thinks cal will win by 6 points. It will be interesting to see if the line moves at game time - which means the smart money (read knowledgable bettors) is on the Vols.
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Didn't Vegas have Tennessee last year?
 
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johnchavisfan said:
Someone please tell me why everyone and their mama is picking Cal.Did i miss something.I mean i know ainge has a broke pinky but what gives here?:dunno:
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I'd explain it by saying that most of the media doesn't own a pair of orange goggles...

Even I will admit that Cal looks better on paper...

Saying they were intimidated by our stadium is a cop out...they were overwhelmed by speed, strength, and overall physicality...

But media types don't care about those things...they care about flash and style. Cal has that and we don't.

Fortunately we here at VolNation are privy to the "inside" information that UT is still faster, stronger and tougher and the outcome will be extremely similar to last year :)
 
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who cares.....we were the underdog last year.....I remember CBSSPORTSLINE picked Cal (all but 1) Espn picked Cal across the board and FOX picked the NFL and Nascar over NCAA football :)


So lets quit worrying about being underdogs......If we lost every game we were underdogs in or the experts picked against us.....we would be like 2 - 9 every year!!
 
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BigPapaVol said:
let's see:

they have the supposed best receiver in the nation
their QB is on some sleeper lists as AA material
the game is AT Cal
We looked like hell against PSU
Our receiving corps has as much experience as I do
Our gamebreaker RB is suspended for the game
Our QB has pinky issues
Our secondary has a bit more experience than our WRs but not much

I can see them being the favorite on paper. In the real world, a totally different story IMO.

As for last year's shellacking, I think the media (and Cal) are boiling it down to the intimidating stadium resulting in poor play on Cal's part. What they're missing is the talent differential. Their D did not play poorly because of the environment. It just plain didn't have the athletes to play. Our pathetic running game looked like Nebraska under Osborne (little did we know that was a sham and due to their ineptitude, moreso than our ability).

I think the media is missing the boat, but the Vegas oddsmakers don't typically miss the boat near unanimously without some convincing information.
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We took a 35-0 lead on them when they were supposed to have the best receivers in the country, Marshawn Lynch was one of the most hyped players in the game, Lee Corso had picked Cal to win the title. We were coming off a 5-6 season, had an inconsistent QB at the helm (who had only been with the new offensive coordinator for a few months), a questionable secondary, and no rushing game to speak of. And we still won.

Like a poster above said, Cal looks good on paper, but it's not hard putting up those stats against Stanford and Arizona.

We won that game in large part because the fans were hungry for the victory, because they were willing to look past the paper and put their faith in the Vols. We all know how responsive our team is to crowd support. When we're behind them, they play their asses off. We need to make sure we're not showing any doubt in them on game day.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
We took a 35-0 lead on them when they were supposed to have the best receivers in the country, Marshawn Lynch was one of the most hyped players in the game, Lee Corso had picked Cal to win the title. We were coming off a 5-6 season, had an inconsistent QB at the helm (who had only been with the new offensive coordinator for a few months), a questionable secondary, and no rushing game to speak of. And we still won.

Like a poster above said, Cal looks good on paper, but it's not hard putting up those stats against Stanford and Arizona.

We won that game in large part because the fans were hungry for the victory, because they were willing to look past the paper and put their faith in the Vols. We all know how responsive our team is to crowd support. When we're behind them, they play their asses off. We need to make sure we're not showing any doubt in them on game day.
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Corso is a douchebag...I remember after the Cal game last year he still picked Cal to win it all and refused to say anything good about the way we drilled them that day
 
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I would like to know the defensive rankings of the teams Cal beat last year. When they where rolling off like eight wins in a row?Can anyone help me out with this one.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
We won that game in large part because the fans were hungry for the victory, because they were willing to look past the paper and put their faith in the Vols. We all know how responsive our team is to crowd support. When we're behind them, they play their asses off. We need to make sure we're not showing any doubt in them on game day.
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I was at the game, and I don't remember a fan throwing a block, catching a pass, tackling a player, or scoring a touchdown.

I'm going to say we won that game because we had a better team regardless of the fans.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
We took a 35-0 lead on them when they were supposed to have the best receivers in the country, Marshawn Lynch was one of the most hyped players in the game, Lee Corso had picked Cal to win the title. We were coming off a 5-6 season, had an inconsistent QB at the helm (who had only been with the new offensive coordinator for a few months), a questionable secondary, and no rushing game to speak of. And we still won.

Like a poster above said, Cal looks good on paper, but it's not hard putting up those stats against Stanford and Arizona.

We won that game in large part because the fans were hungry for the victory, because they were willing to look past the paper and put their faith in the Vols. We all know how responsive our team is to crowd support. When we're behind them, they play their asses off. We need to make sure we're not showing any doubt in them on game day.
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I'm the one that said they look good on paper and I can understand our being the 'dog. I also said that I believe the prognosticators are missing the boat about some big issues. I think we beat Cal physically by a mile, but the score will be somewhat closer.

As to all of the drivel about the crowd being behind them and playing harder - makes no difference.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
let's see:

they have the supposed best receiver in the nation
their QB is on some sleeper lists as AA material
the game is AT Cal
We looked like hell against PSU
Our receiving corps has as much experience as I do
Our gamebreaker RB is suspended for the game
Our QB has pinky issues
Our secondary has a bit more experience than our WRs but not much

I can see them being the favorite on paper. In the real world, a totally different story IMO.

As for last year's shellacking, I think the media (and Cal) are boiling it down to the intimidating stadium resulting in poor play on Cal's part. What they're missing is the talent differential. Their D did not play poorly because of the environment. It just plain didn't have the athletes to play. Our pathetic running game looked like Nebraska under Osborne (little did we know that was a sham and due to their ineptitude, moreso than our ability).

I think the media is missing the boat, but the Vegas oddsmakers don't typically miss the boat near unanimously without some convincing information.
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I like this assessment and agree with it. You should not have anymore questions about the spread after reading this :thumbsup:

I'm glad it's so easy to misunderestimate (Bush-ism) the Vols in this situation. Smokies' going to bite the entire nation on the :shaking2:
 
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UT IE 95 said:
I was at the game, and I don't remember a fan throwing a block, catching a pass, tackling a player, or scoring a touchdown.

I'm going to say we won that game because we had a better team regardless of the fans.
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We certainly did. I am not saying anything to the cotrary. What I AM saying is that there are certain things about this game that are mental and our team plays better when they're the underdogs and when their fans are solidly behind them.
 
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