Playing Wednesday instead of Tuesday will be good.

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Unconditional Surrender said:
3 wins from our first 1 seed IMO (next 2 and 1 in the SECT)
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I don’t see an SECT win putting them to a 1 seed. I think whatever seed we are by the time that game is played on Friday, is pretty much set. If we win the next 2, I think we are a 1, especially if Zona gets a loss. Worst case, we’d be the top 2 seed. If winning the last 4 , on top of everything else this team has done, doesn’t get them a 1 seed, a win over a decent team on Friday of SECT wouldn’t show the committee anything they hadn’t seen.
 
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pimo1 said:
Actually, Florida beating Bama on Tuesday would be at best unhelpful for us. Us winning out and all the top-ranked teams we played winning out works out best for us as far as ratings and such
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Doesn’t a Florida victory over bama push them back into quad 1 territory making our win over them more valuable?
 
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OrangeInKy said:
I don’t see an SECT win putting them to a 1 seed. I think whatever seed we are by the time that game is played on Friday, is pretty much set. If we win the next 2, I think we are a 1, especially if Zona gets a loss. Worst case, we’d be the top 2 seed. If winning the last 4 , on top of everything else this team has done, doesn’t get them a 1 seed, a win over a decent team on Friday of SECT wouldn’t show the committee anything they hadn’t seen.
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The SEC Tournament will have zero effect on seeding.

It’s already been proven.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Exactly, so why bother?
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I agree. I really hope Barnes is the first coach to go against the system and rest all key players in the SEC Tournament, especially if we win the next 2. We gain nothing by advancing or winning the SEC Tournament and we should have a 1 seed locked up. That would give players a potential 12 day rest vs. a 3 day rest if all players play and we advance to the finals of the SEC Tournament. Most people outside of vol nation will judge our success on how we do in the NCAA Tournament. I think most people want to see at least an elite 8 appearance with a chance to finally advance to that elusive final 4. I like our chances better with well rested players and the additional time will give coaches more prep time for our first and second round opponents. I’m sure the argument will be you never concede defeat or 12 days off is too much time and we will be rusty or what about the fans who already purchased tickets, they will see a watered down version UT squad. I’m not buying that logic, let Dilione, Phillips, Estrella, Hurst, Coyne, Carr, Jefferson play Significant minutes in the sec tournament game. Possibly use Mashack or Gainey some just for game reps or emergency situation. Doubt it will happen but I think it has some logical reasoning to the situation. Just my opinion. I really think the NCAA. needs to do away with conference tournaments in basketball and conference championship games in football. All other sports play as is
 
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wtmvol said:
Yes. We need Florida to keep winning for that very reason.
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I don’t think FL is capable of winning a game that benefits UT. It’s as though they are snatching defeat from victory on purpose (Bama, USCe). They slipped up earlier in the year and helped out by beating KY at Rupp. My guess is they got a stern lecture about that from the administration as soon as the plane landed in Gainesville.
 
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pimo1 said:
Actually, Florida beating Bama on Tuesday would be at best unhelpful for us. Us winning out and all the top-ranked teams we played winning out works out best for us as far as ratings and such
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No, Florida winning helps us. Alabama is not going to fall out of Quad 1 territory. Florida winning pushes them close to Quad 1 territory if not all the way into a Quad 1 win for us. The committee really values Q1 wins, the more the better.

Also, Alabama losing to Florida would knock them out of the SEC title race entirely if we beat USCjr or UK.
 
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BallerVolFan said:
No, Florida winning helps us. Alabama is not going to fall out of Quad 1 territory. Florida winning pushes them close to Quad 1 territory if not all the way into a Quad 1 win for us. The committee really values Q1 wins, the more the better.

Also, Alabama losing to Florida would knock them out of the SEC title race entirely if we beat USCjr or UK.
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Your point is solid but in general, I feel like Bama losing to Florida after so recently getting spanked by Kentucky and then losing top might make them drop more than one might think especially if Florida did something silly like turn around and lose to Vandy right after which would just be totally a Gator thing to do. Get in on my conspiracy theory here... after their massive drubbing in Rupp Vandy meets up with the gators and they decide whats the best way to bone UT? Give poor Vandy a win... neither of them is gonna do anything in the tourney so stick it to the Vols. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
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Extra day will be helpful. Against South Carolina, we need to be able to guard straight up and not over help as the Gamecocks pass the ball well. Only other thing, Florida was having their way with South Carolina on Saturday until they went to a 1-3-1 extended zone defense. Totally changed the flow of the game. Our guys need to be prepared for it.
 
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Namorto1 said:
Extra day will be helpful. Against South Carolina, we need to be able to guard straight up and not over help as the Gamecocks pass the ball well. Only other thing, Florida was having their way with South Carolina on Saturday until they went to a 1-3-1 extended zone defense. Totally changed the flow of the game. Our guys need to be prepared for it.
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I do agree that Carolina’s 1-3-1 zone defense caused Florida a lot of problems but that was mainly because Walter Clayton was handling the ball like it had been lathered in hot oil. They have a good defense but we won’t be as loose with the ball as Florida was. I think Florida made their 1-3-1 zone look more effective than it actually is.
 
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Namorto1 said:
Extra day will be helpful. Against South Carolina, we need to be able to guard straight up and not over help as the Gamecocks pass the ball well. Only other thing, Florida was having their way with South Carolina on Saturday until they went to a 1-3-1 extended zone defense. Totally changed the flow of the game. Our guys need to be prepared for it.
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Yes, that zone was pretty significant and could pose problems if we don’t prepare.
I’m confident, CRB will have them schooled on this
 
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pimo1 said:
Your point is solid but in general, I feel like Bama losing to Florida after so recently getting spanked by Kentucky and then losing top might make them drop more than one might think especially if Florida did something silly like turn around and lose to Vandy right after which would just be totally a Gator thing to do. Get in on my conspiracy theory here... after their massive drubbing in Rupp Vandy meets up with the gators and they decide whats the best way to bone UT? Give poor Vandy a win... neither of them is gonna do anything in the tourney so stick it to the Vols. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
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This is just not the case, although I admire your commitment. Alabama is a consensus top 10 team by all computers - they could lose out and still, firmly, be two Q1 wins for us. A Florida win gives us a chance at another Q1 win and, likely, eliminates Alabama from SEC title contention. Yes, we want to win out, but a Florida win tomorrow night is objectively the best outcome for us.
 
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berryvol said:
This is just not the case, although I admire your commitment. Alabama is a consensus top 10 team by all computers - they could lose out and still, firmly, be two Q1 wins for us. A Florida win gives us a chance at another Q1 win and, likely, eliminates Alabama from SEC title contention. Yes, we want to win out, but a Florida win tomorrow night is objectively the best outcome for us.
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And it’s not only just a good outcome, it’s the BEST CASE outcome if it’s paired with a Tennessee win over Carolina.
 
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