Players have the right to sit out?

[wildorange]

I'm completely split on that one.

I totally understand your side so I won't bother typing it out.
The other side, almost any decent paying job in this country requires a 2 to 4 year degree.

So they're not really doing anything that the rest of us don't have to do. But they either get a much better reward in year one (medium player), or a reward way better than any of the rest of us will ever receive (real NFL money long term).

So while I am in favor of the right to choose, you still wouldn't hear any complaints from me if that's all I had to do, to make that kind of money.

And the vast majority of football players aren't ready for the NFL after year 1 or 2. The nfl does not want that to happen, a player wanting to sit or leave after 1 year is more than likely looking for a quick money grab and eveb if he isn't he is more than likely not ready for the NFL. At least stay 3 years and be close to your degree if football doesn't work out. Some folks trying to push them through like they aren't getting nothing are foolish, they are getting a free education and a chance to develop into a complete football player and man. Most nearly all players that look to sit are NOT going to be attractive to the NFL, them types rarely amount to much. You can't worry about injuries to much in football if you do you find yourself not playing all out. And believe me the NFL is going to spot the player not going all out or sitting and their stock is going to go DOWN not up. GBO!!!!!

 

[barrylee]

I'm not saying that any of our "draft prospects" are or will do this, but I'm wondering if players can sit out longer than they expected so they wouldn't get hurt again.

Can a coach make a player play even if the doctors cleared him, but the player feels like he can't?

Honestly, if I was a player, I wouldn't want to risk another injury either... especially with my draft stock on the line.

You probably didn't play sports, did you? If you're a integral part of a team, and a competitor, you want to be out there every game.. jmo

 

[Dreamsicle]

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[vol1981]

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[wmcovol]

I don't think you cats understand how the scholarship system actually works. A coach or administration can yank a kid's scholarship anytime they choose and depending on institution and internal rules for any reason they choose. Lack of productivity (had a friend at an institution MANY years ago who played his senior year on half scholarship due to "performance" issues his junior year), effort, just see young O'Brien's dismissal recently as an example. So the shcolly is not locked in 4 years no matter what, it's day to day basically and don't think for a second some coaches using it as a carrot and stick motivational tool. So the idea these thousands of dollars are locked in on kids is pish posh. Spurrier should have bounced Clowney off the team if he were laying down and that would be my recommendation for any coach or school, but you cannot make a kid play well. What are you going to do if he's so obstinate and does not want to play he just lays down? Hence why you dont put him out there and to me keep him on the team, cut their donkey same day. But you also can't abuse the kids too much as word gets around you do kids wrong and they avoid playing for you as well, which is why Spurrier caved to Clowney most likely.

1) all power 5 leagues changed to 4 year deals now for football and hoops. Only requirement of the kid is to work hard and follow rules. They can make life tough on a kid but they cant "cut"
2) If a coach cuts a kid who is busting their butt in yrs past, they probably need to forget recruiting that high school again
3) all football schollys have been full rides for years.
4) kids do get cut and run off, scholarships cut in non-revenue sports but not football and hoops

 

[Rocky Top Raby]

And the vast majority of football players aren't ready for the NFL after year 1 or 2. The nfl does not want that to happen, a player wanting to sit or leave after 1 year is more than likely looking for a quick money grab and eveb if he isn't he is more than likely not ready for the NFL. At least stay 3 years and be close to your degree if football doesn't work out. Some folks trying to push them through like they aren't getting nothing are foolish, they are getting a free education and a chance to develop into a complete football player and man. Most nearly all players that look to sit are NOT going to be attractive to the NFL, them types rarely amount to much. You can't worry about injuries to much in football if you do you find yourself not playing all out. And believe me the NFL is going to spot the player not going all out or sitting and their stock is going to go DOWN not up. GBO!!!!!

Yeah Ckowney's stock sure dropped a ton. If you can play then you can play, don't think there is any question these guys put I the effort. Nothing wrong with protecting your future. Funny how all of you non NFL scouts act like your opinions are facts.

 

[Shaun1985]

This is sort of off topic but does anyone know how the insurance works? It was my understanding that it's not random players and has to be high caliber players with big dollar futures. Do the actual schools pay the premiums or is this the family? I know the insurance policy isn't as much as a NFL contract but at least It's something and I bet has eased high caliber players minds about playing their JR or SR season.

 

[wildorange]

Yeah Ckowney's stock sure dropped a ton. If you can play then you can play, don't think there is any question these guys put I the effort. Nothing wrong with protecting your future. Funny how all of you non NFL scouts act like your opinions are facts.

Actually Clowney has underperformed just like he did his last year of college. His stock did drop from what it was the year before overall, no doubt about that. He was clearly out of shape the last year at USC and even Spurrier made suttle remarks about it. He isn't the best DE on his own team. Facts are facts, and if you have the reputation as going at half speed or not playing all out it isn't going to help your stock. But believe what you want to believe.