PFF (Pro Football Focus) Grades vs Ball State

[Boston Vol]

It’s the absolute truth. How many elite players can you name over the last decade that they’ve drafted

No it isn’t the truth. That ridiculous article that you linked had the Lions with more successful drafts between 13-17. Go ahead and show me the better drafts that the lions had over that time period.

 

[Vol8188]

No it isn’t the truth. That ridiculous article that you lined had the Lions with more successful drafts between 13-17. Go ahead and show me the better drafts that the lions had over that time period.

This is how annoying I imagine everyone from Boston to be.

Guess you still can’t name any elite players?

 

[VOLnVANDYland]

So Milton goes 8/9 for 113 and a TD, his 1 incompletion should have been caught for a TD and dude gets a 60? (I get it if his ply last year was weighed into this, but I assume this is supposed to be about pure analytics). Seems suspect.

 

[Boston Vol]

This is how annoying I imagine everyone from Boston to be.

Guess you still can’t name any elite players?

Annoying? Why because you linked a ridiculous article? Again you’re more than welcome to show me the 28 teams that had more successful drafts over that 5-year stretch. And what’s your definition of elite? In my opinion the Patriots have drafted six elite players in the whole of the Belichick era.

Tom Brady
Richard Seymour
Vince Wilfork
Logan Mankins
Rob Gronkowski
Donta Hightower

So the answer to your question would be 2012, since that’s when Hightower was drafted.

 

[Vol8188]

Annoying? Why because you linked a ridiculous article? Again your more than welcome to show me the 28 teams that had more successful drafts over that 5-year stretch. And what’s your definition of elite? In my opinion the Patriots have drafted six elite players in the whole of the Belichick era.

Tom Brady
Richard Seymour
Vince Wilfork
Logan Mankins
Rob Gronkowski
Donta Hightower

So the answer to your question would 2012, since that’s when Hightower was drafted.

And they drafted most of those guys within a couple of years of each other. Which is one reason they had a great run. No doubt those are elite players all taken within about a decade of each other.

Within the last decade they’ve taken 0-1 (depending on if you count 2012 or not).

You don’t see the glaring problem?

The bengals have drafted Burrow and Chase in back to back years. I don’t follow them but that’s two elite players

Titans Simmons, brown, Henry within 3 years of each other

Bills Josh Allen and Tredavious white within a year of each other

Colts got Jonathan Taylor and Quenton Nelson within 3 years of each other

These are just some guys off the top of my head. During the last decade the patriots have drafted really, really poorly.

Why can’t you accept that?

 

[SAPPER 5]

There’s a balanced approach in the middle of this crazy thread and the we are terrible crowd.

We can acknowledge Burrell looked bad andHooker had some accuracy issues, but overall we won the way we should have

Several of Hooker's "accuracy Issues" were straight-up drops, so there's that...

 

[Vol8188]

Several of Hooker's "accuracy Issues" were straight-up drops, so there's that...

I think you should go back and watch that again. He was throwing easy screen passes over WRs

 

[Boston Vol]

And they drafted most of those guys within a couple of years of each other. Which is one reason they had a great run. No doubt those are elite players all taken within about a decade of each other.

Within the last decade they’ve taken 0-1 (depending on if you count 2012 or not).

You don’t see the glaring problem?

The bengals have drafted Burrow and Chase in back to back years. I don’t follow them but that’s two elite players

Titans Simmons, brown, Henry within 3 years of each other

Bills Josh Allen and Tredavious white within a year of each other

Colts got Jonathan Taylor and Quenton Nelson within 3 years of each other

These are just some guys off the top of my head. During the last decade the patriots have drafted really, really poorly.

Why can’t you accept that?

The glaring problem? You’re really comparing the Bengals taking two players in the top five of the draft to what the Patriots have done? Quenton Nelson was the sixth pick overall. I’ll go out on a limb and say that if the Pats had top ten picks every year, they may have been a little more successful in the draft.

 

[Vol8188]

The glaring problem? You’re really comparing the Bengals taking two players in the top five of the draft to what the Patriots have done? Quenton Nelson was the sixth pick overall. I’ll go out on a limb and say that if the Pats had top ten picks every year, they may have been a little more successful in the draft.

Yet many of the guys I listed were second and third round picks too. And the patriots haven’t exactly been great with their 1st rounders

 

[SAPPER 5]

I think you should go back and watch that again. He was throwing easy screen passes over WRs

I said "several." Yep, he had a few overthrows...he also hit a few in the hands that were dropped. End result? We're up 45-0 when CJH pulled him after the first series in the 3d.