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Let's break it down more.

You and some dude are standing there naked. He pee-pees and some splashes on you.
Let's say then you happen to be wearing pants. When he pee-pees, only a little gets on you.
Now, just for kicks, let's say both of you are wearing pants. He pee-pees...you stay completely dry!

See? That's how masks work.
Since the 'Rona is spread through airborne transmission, a better example would be a fart. Can you still smell a fart through undies, pants/shorts, and a mask? Yes.

 

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Since the 'Rona is spread through airborne transmission, a better example would be a fart. Can you still smell a fart through undies, pants/shorts, and a mask? Yes.

Airborne transmission by way of water droplets.

So, to extend this disgusting analogy you've started, imagine the 'wet" parts of your fart. If your underoos are brown, that's a sign of protection from virus spread.

It's science.
 
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Or the 100K American U65 that have also died. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands more who've lived but have required hospitalization and suffered ongoing impacts.
I’ve got ongoing effects after having it, and I certainly empathize with anyone that’s lost a loved one from it, but we can’t shut everything down for it. It’s no way to live.
 
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I’ve got ongoing effects after having it, and I certainly empathize with anyone that’s lost a loved one from it, but we can’t shut everything down for it. It’s no way to live.
I don't think it is either. There's a middle ground between "shut everything down" and politicizing science to the point of not taking some simple proactive measures like wearing a mask around others. But it's easier to defend a position and not sound like a complete A-Hole by saying your against shutting everything down and life must go on then it is to say you're against taking medical advice from public health experts and too much a snowflake to wear a mask and help stop the spread and protect the most vulnerable.
 
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I missed that--what did he say?
I'd have to go back a few weeks and find it. He slipped and said that some information (the good news) had not been made public because he and others feared that people would stop following their instructions and guidelines.

For those of us who only placed qualified trust in them to start with... it made no difference. The people he wanted to maintain control over are those who believe that masks "save lives".
 

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So, you don't take sugar pills for a headache for the same reason you don't wear a mask -- because you are so darned smart?
Because they are of roughly equal worth....

Smart or not... I believe what people prove and become suspicious when people start bullying others to comply without offering proof.

The "proof" for masks would have been simple. Take a sample group of Covid patients with different levels of symptoms. Sterilize a small room and then measure for Covid contamination. Have the patients enter the room one at a time measuring for Covid and re-cleaning after each one. Then... do the same with masks on. A simple experiment like that would have offered fairly conclusive proof as to whether and how much masks prevented someone from spreading the virus at various levels of symptoms. But nothing like that was ever offered. The few articles written on the subject used past studies of symptomatic flu patients to prove what masks would/would not do to stop Covid.

Now... this massive experiment by those "darned smart" people that you place blind trust in has produced a data set. A very large one. It does not show masks effective.
 
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It's not. Ever.

There will always be a 'variant' out there.
Especially since the "vaccines" are actually designed to use mRNA (Messenger RNA) to create the immune response to SAHRS-COV-2. They do not use normal deactivated viral proteins to allow your body to develop antibodies.
 

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Whatever you wear over your mouth and nose, if it traps moisture, it reduces virus spread.

The water droplets you breathe out, they vary widely in size. If the smallest ones are likened to jet skis, the biggest ones are like aircraft carriers.

And every one of them is super huge to a covid-19 virion (virion = single virus particle). I mean, the virion is like an ant by comparison.

And these ants, the absolute best way for them to travel around the vast reaches of space between one human host and another...is stuck on the side of one of those water droplets. Either the jet ski sized ones, or the aircraft carriers.

From the virion's perspective, the advantage of the jet ski size is, they stay floating in the air a whole lot longer. Unfortunately, they also evaporate faster, leaving the virion without support quicker.

The advantage of the aircraft carrier is, it won't evaporate for hours. The disadvantage is, it gets pulled down to the ground much faster, doesn't float on air currents as well.

But the virion doesn't get to choose which it rides on, so we end up seeing virus particles on all the different sizes of water droplets. Almost all of them too small for a human to see with their naked eye. Even the aircraft carriers.

So now you're wearing what you call a t-shirt over your mouth and nose. Is it trapping a lot of that water vapor? Oh heck yes. You can tell for yourself: breathe in a mask, even the flimsiest mask, for 10-15 minutes. Then see if it's damp on the inside. Yep, sure is. That's virus protection.

Even as flimsy a mask as a t-shirt can screen a surprising percentage* of those water droplets out of the air you're breathing out. And do the same with the air you're breathing in, as well.

That's virus protection. Masks work. It's just absolutely, plain and simple common sense.


* Saw a scientific paper several months ago that concluded N95 masks, properly worn, are 95% effective at blocking covid-19 (largely because it blocks the water droplets on which most covid virions ride), and that even a single ply of cotton fabric, like a handkerchief, blocks roughly 50% (again, worn snug over both mouth and nose). That t-shirt is more effective than you think.
Omg you’re a submitting fool.
 

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Since the 'Rona is spread through airborne transmission, a better example would be a fart. Can you still smell a fart through undies, pants/shorts, and a mask? Yes.


This dude literally posted a "it's science" gif after claiming his fart/panty-sniffing fetish is proof that masks don't slow the spread of viruses.

Florida Man is gonna Florida Man.
 

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Because they are of roughly equal worth....

Smart or not... I believe what people prove and become suspicious when people start bullying others to comply without offering proof.

The "proof" for masks would have been simple. Take a sample group of Covid patients with different levels of symptoms. Sterilize a small room and then measure for Covid contamination. Have the patients enter the room one at a time measuring for Covid and re-cleaning after each one. Then... do the same with masks on. A simple experiment like that would have offered fairly conclusive proof as to whether and how much masks prevented someone from spreading the virus at various levels of symptoms. But nothing like that was ever offered. The few articles written on the subject used past studies of symptomatic flu patients to prove what masks would/would not do to stop Covid.

Now... this massive experiment by those "darned smart" people that you place blind trust in has produced a data set. A very large one. It does not show masks effective.
How would you feel about a surgeon operating on you without a mask (since they have no proof of working)?
 

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How would you feel about a surgeon operating on you without a mask (since they have no proof of working)?
Actually a study was done several years back. It was taken down under pressure after Covid. It was an expansive study showing that infections were no worse among patients when the doctor went without a mask than when they did.

So to answer your question... I'd feel just fine.

And.... there's a difference when exposing areas of your body that are not protected by your complete immune defense system. Skin, nose hair/mucus, saliva, etc make up the first line of defense against viruses. Even so... infections were not worse in that large data set.
 

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Our office has had several "catch" Covid but none were as a result of being in the office. All were a result of traveling, partying or visiting with family.
 

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