Penn State Sanctions- recruits/transfers

[Roustabout]

D1a teams not sanctioned can carry 85 scholarship players per season; under these penalties, Penn State can carry 65 scholarship players per season starting next season, over the next 4 years.

85-65=20

I see the point but that limit doesn't go into effect until next year. You will have a graduating class in that time.
Let's say they are at 85 now. They will graduate some, lose some to attrition and transfer. In fact, I'd say they will be at 70 or below before the season starts. With the sanctions, they will have a hard time finding 15 that want to come. Teams sign 25 now, and that usually barely keeps them at 85. So, the formula becomes singing up to 15 to keep the overall limit at no more than 65.

This will take more than a few years, because a 4 year bowl ban. Students are less likely to sign knowing they will play their entire career without a chance for any post season play.
USC barely even flinched at the sanctions. That is because it was a one year ban. The kids they were recruiting weren't deterred because it really didn't affect them. USC was already one of the most selective schools out there in terms of recruiting. They will still get just as many 4 and 5 star players.

What we can learn. The NCAA takes a high view of internal control. It looks like the entire school had a hand in this coverup. Either by doing nothing, or intentionally hiding things. Both of which deserve punishment. If you look at tOSU, and UT, the penalties were minimal because the schools were proactive in penalizing the responsible parties and in changing interal policies. PSU basically benefited from the reputation of JoPa for 15 years, while this mess was going on. USC also had harsher penalites because the responsible parties were not punished.

 

[Vol_51]

Is there a chance we land any transfers from PSU, I know we lucked up and got Malik Jackson from the USC mess 2 years back.

 

[DjCrenshaw]

I am wondering if upper or lower class guys are more willing to leave?

 

[volfrk86]

Joe Pa is sick!!

Any man like myself with a son could care if he rots in Haities for covering up what he knew.

The whole story is sick & anyone that defends him needs to become a parent someday it will change there view!!!!!!!!!!

well put i have two boys and if anyone did that too my kids and if someone tried to cover it up i would want them all to fry.

 

[JohnnyBall]

Again, they have payed enough penalties, and Sandusky is gone for good. When do they get to start the healing process, after the NCAA gets a hold of them?? It's dumb the NCAA is even touching this. Hell, they are removing JP's statue, so it's not like they aren't trying to get rid of what might remind people of this mess.

This might be the dumbest thing Ive ever read on here

 

[VegasBaby!]

Is there a chance we land any transfers from PSU, I know we lucked up and got Malik Jackson from the USC mess 2 years back.

When we got Jackson, we were well under 85 scholarships. I'm vaguely remembering that Dooley said during SEC Media Days that we were 85 for the first time since he arrived at UT. Do we have open slots or are we at the 85 max?

 

[Vols4us]

This might be the dumbest thing Ive ever read on here

I agree, but man, there are some really stupid posters on this thread. Some think they know more about the situation than the parties involved in it!

One statement I know is correct - Emmert is one tough cookie and is unafraid to take on anybody.

As to players - besides their current kicker/punter I think they need to try to get TE Brenneman they have committed.

 

[Tux]

I understand that any school who wants to "recruit" a PSU player, must report who they are approaching to recruit and any current PSU player must report to which schools that they have approached.

 

[Rudy123]

^^ Not if they get the death penalty. The president of the NCAA is not ruling that out as a possibility.

(1) Do NOT give them the death penalty. Let the football program stand and when it earns money, use that money to give to the victims.
(2) Put penalties on them so that they can not succeed on the field, though. Loss of scholarships,
loss of bowl eligibility, etc. etc.

 

[Billy Antrim]

Cancer and complications from the treatments. That's how I know.

Cancer is not necessarily a death sentence. Millions of people survive it every year, provided they have the will to fight the disease and live.

 

[volnpowell]

At what point is it enough though?? When does the people at PSU, who had nothing to do with this, get to try and rebuild that school to be better and put this behind them??

Rebuild from what? Do they not have to be knocked down first before rebuilding? What should they do to them in your opinion? I am not trying to be a fill in the blank, just think that if your son was one of the victims, you might feel they need to suffer athletically speaking since it was to protect athletics they did not report anything to police.

 

[Flatliner]

the players committed to penn state will stay committed whether or not sanctions are tough.

are you still sticking with that statement ?

 

[10acvols]

are you still sticking with that statement ?

timing is everything. More would have transfered if this had happened prior to signing day, but with less than 6 weeks before the season starts i believe most signees consider themselves as part of the team. If i remember being 18 yrs old, they will feel a sense of loyalty. No matter the number, with more time to consider the magnitude of their loyalty (never being able to play in a bowl game, a b1g championship or a rose bowl) they would have lost many more.

 

[Escape Goat]

mute points make me giggle.

What about moot points? Are they funny too?

 

[10acvols]

what about moot points? Are they funny too?

mute points are much easier to listen to.

 

[OrangeDog]

What about moot points? Are they funny too?

mute points are much easier to listen to.

Mute points are Moot points