Pacific Pro Football League

[Volnukem]

So I looked into the numbers for UT and the cost of attendance is about $30k and the cost of tuition and fees is about $12k. If a football lives off campus minus a meal plan, they would receive about $15k or so in reimbursment from the bursar's office. Now football also has that cost of living stipend,which is another $8k. So a UT football player probably banks around 23k per year untaxed. Not to mention part of those fees cover a health insurance plan. In all, considering taxes and cost of living in Cali, I would say a UT athlete might make $10k more per year if they chose to play in the PPFL.

 

[RCKYT0P]

I really like the sound of this league myself. The schools rack up millions of dollars on the back of these student athletes, while the athlete cant even make any kind of money what so ever, even off their own autograph! If this league really builds steam and takes off, this could quiet possibly be the straw that finally breaks the camels back for the greedy NCAA if they dont start padding the pockets of these student athletes!

They get a styphon (sp?), free degree, free clothes, bowl packages, training and nutrition facilities....I would say they do quite well to show up and play football.

 

[08Vol]

So I looked into the numbers for UT and the cost of attendance is about $30k and the cost of tuition and fees is about $12k. If a football lives off campus minus a meal plan, they would receive about $15k or so in reimbursment from the bursar's office. Now football also has that cost of living stipend,which is another $8k. So a UT football player probably banks around 23k per year untaxed. Not to mention part of those fees cover a health insurance plan. In all, considering taxes and cost of living in Cali, I would say a UT athlete might make $10k more per year if they chose to play in the PPFL.

Don't forget taxes and health insurance. 50K turns into 38K take home real quick. I'm salaried over 60 and still don't clear 50 take home due to taxes and health insurance.

 

[TNnative]

I agree. Isn't this just another semi pro league.

Semi-pro Football Headquarters / Minor League Football Headquarters

There's a team here in Knoxville. ...Knoxville Knights. Never been. Don't know where they play.

So the format is different and they'll get paid some. But they shouldn't expect any resl interest.

You might get some of those star players and and star gazer fans into it for a year or two. But I'll bet once there's no national stardom, most of those eligible for Div1 will pick a school and sign.

Well, we can look at this like it has been done before. But this really hasn't. Most upstart leagues have been at a pro level competing with the NFL. Nobody has created a league that competed for talent with the NCAA. So, this is could be breaking new ground.

The chances of this lasting might be low, but it doesn't scare anyone to think about what happens if it fails. I am trying to get my head around what happens if it works. Developmental hockey leagues have survived and some have thrived for years.

As long as they play their games by pro rules, it might work. If they play using the NCAA rules, it doesn't have a prayer.

 

[smokey0625]

If this is successful it will be the end of quality college football. All of the 5* and high 4* players will go to these type of leagues. Even if CFB matches pay. Alot of players would rather just focus on training and football rather than school.

Na

 

[GreveHaller]

Well, we can look at this like it has been done before. But this really hasn't. Most upstart leagues have been at a pro level competing with the NFL. Nobody has created a league that competed for talent with the NCAA. So, this is could be breaking new ground.

The chances of this lasting might be low, but it doesn't scare anyone to think about what happens if it fails. I am trying to get my head around what happens if it works. Developmental hockey leagues have survived and some have thrived for years.

As long as they play their games by pro rules, it might work. If they play using the NCAA rules, it doesn't have a prayer.

NFL Europe was designed as a developmental league, not a league to compete with the NFL. Did it fail because it was based in Europe or did it fail because a football developmental league doesnt work - very debatable.

But I believe you are correct - there's not been a league created to compete with the NCAA.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

NFL Europe was designed as a developmental league, not a league to compete with the NFL. Did it fail because it was based in Europe or did it fail because a football developmental league doesnt work - very debatable.

But I believe you are correct - there's not been a league created to compete with the NCAA.

It might be like adding 4 top 10 teams to Div1 as far as talent dispersion. And how it affects college football talentwise. But I just don't see it developing a significant following. The sports market is overflowing now. It'd be like flipping through all the sports channels and, whoa!..there's cricket..so I says to myself.."lets us watch me some cricket"...5 min later my ears are bleeding and I move on and...whoa!..there's underwater badminton...so I says .......

 

[GreveHaller]

It might be like adding 4 top 10 teams to Div1 as far as talent dispersion. And how it affects college football talentwise. But I just don't see it developing a significant following. The sports market is overflowing now. It'd be like flipping through all the sports channels and, whoa!..there's cricket..so I says to myself.."lets us watch me some cricket"...5 min later my ears are bleeding and I move on and...whoa!..there's underwater badminton...so I says .......

funny you mention cricket......about a week ago the wife and I were watching something on tv together and I pulled up watch ESPN on my laptop which had a cricket match so I watched. Ok, I get it more now what its all about. Interesting for sure. I kept thinking wouldnt it make it more competitive is the fielders were allowed to have baseball gloves? Its a neat idea that there's no foul line so anything hit is fair. No way I could go to an actual match without copious amounts of beer

 

[TNnative]

NFL Europe was designed as a developmental league, not a league to compete with the NFL. Did it fail because it was based in Europe or did it fail because a football developmental league doesnt work - very debatable.

But I believe you are correct - there's not been a league created to compete with the NCAA.

NFLE was mainly an experiment to see if the NFL would be financially viable in Europe. You might get a turnout for a couple of games a year in London, but a team based there won't happen in our lifetimes.

 

[TNnative]

funny you mention cricket......about a week ago the wife and I were watching something on tv together and I pulled up watch ESPN on my laptop which had a cricket match so I watched. Ok, I get it more now what its all about. Interesting for sure. I kept thinking wouldnt it make it more competitive is the fielders were allowed to have baseball gloves? Its a neat idea that there's no foul line so anything hit is fair. No way I could go to an actual match without copious amounts of beer

Go watch it in Australia. They are suppose to have some really cool traditions associated with cricket, rugby, and AFL. Watching cricket here is like watching basketball in Ecuador.

 

[TNnative]

They get a styphon (sp?), free degree, free clothes, bowl packages, training and nutrition facilities....I would say they do quite well to show up and play football.

FYI, it is stipend. Plus, do they tax scholarships? Because whatever PPFL players make will surely be taxed.

 

[CardsNVols]

I agree with that and when they get hurt they will end up with no pay and no education cause they threw that free scholarship out the window. Some kids are really about to screw their lives up.

No worse than any other kid who joins the work force right out of HS. In fact, these kids will be better off, as they'll be making 50K a year (compared to most low skilled HS grads who are lucky to start off with 20K a year). Not everyone is cut out for college to begin with, even star athletes. Those types will likely get a lot more out of this than they will with 2.0 GPA and a degree in communications.

It will be a risk for many young athletes, for sure, but there are definitely some who will benefit from this.

 

[volfannbama]

No worse than any other kid who joins the work force right out of HS. In fact, these kids will be better off, as they'll be making 50K a year (compared to most low skilled HS grads who are lucky to start off with 20K a year). Not everyone is cut out for college to begin with, even star athletes. Those types will likely get a lot more out of this than they will with 2.0 GPA and a degree in communications.

It will be a risk for many young athletes, for sure, but there are definitely some who will benefit from this.

20k in the most parts of the south > 50k in soutern California.

 

[RockyTopTexas]

I feel like this is what Deion Sanders was trying to do... it just didn't work with high school kids

 

[themicah85]

I really like the sound of this league myself. The schools rack up millions of dollars on the back of these student athletes, while the athlete cant even make any kind of money what so ever, even off their own autograph! If this league really builds steam and takes off, this could quiet possibly be the straw that finally breaks the camels back for the greedy NCAA if they dont start padding the pockets of these student athletes!

You realize that these guys could just not play college ball right? Also did you goto college? I personally left college with a ton of debt but the ability to get a better job. Making the nfl is far from a gurantee, no matter if youre a 5 star recruit or where you play. Whats most likely going to happen, if this league takes off, is these 18 year old players that think theyre gods gift to football, flock to this league to make a little change, 95% of them dont have an nfl career and have nothing but their highschool education to fall back on. If you dont think going to college benefits a person thats about to be given millions of dollars in the rare event they do make it then i dont know what to tell you. This plan these football players have would effectively end all scholarships. Including kids that realize they arent going to make a living playing womens soccer but go on to become a teacher/coach. Someone who actually benefits the world. Basketball only makes money at a handful of schools so tennessee would probably have to cut them too so we could pay our 28 3*'s coming in their salary.