PAC10 vs SEC

[West_Tn_Vol]

Listening to talk shows/radio and reading every website that covers college football I'm amazed at how the likes of Lee Corso and his EPSN buddies are taking the Cal/UT game and turning it into a PAC10 statement game, that this is the game to prove that PAC10 football is the best there is, guy even said this, "this isnt about CAL, this is about showing the nation that the PAC10 is the dominant league in the nation"..I cant wait for Tennessee to kick the S**T out em'..

 

[jakez4ut]

i take it as a compliment. we are picked to finishe anywere from 2nd to 5th in the SEC E, yet we are this huge statement game for the consensus #2 Pac 10 team. it's a statement game for the #2 Pac 10 team to beat the 5-7th best SEC team at home....(just going off pre season prognostications here...dont' read to much in the ranking stuff).

so i would ask, who is the pressure on? If TN wins, it's a "see i told you" reaction. If Cal wins, it's "whew......finally" reaction.

anyway, it's just hype....this game looks great right now as game one. who knows, but week 14 we may look back on it and say, not really that big a deal....kind of like last year......

and having said all of that, i actually do think the Pac 10, this year is going to be a pretty good conf. Not as good top to bottom as the SEC, but i can see the Pac 10 being 2nd or 3rd. A lot depends on whether or not Missouri, Nebrask and A & M can pull some weight in the Big 12, whether or not FSU, Miami, GT, VT and Clemson can pull some weight int he ACC, whether or not Wisc, PSU, MICH, OSU and someone else from the Big 10 pull some weight.....

it all starts tomorrow night......can't wait.

 

[utvolpj]

How many chances do they get to "make a statement"? I thought UT made a pretty big one last year. Are they just pumping this up because they all pick Cal to win and want to say I told you so?

 

[jakez4ut]

How many chances do they get to "make a statement"? I thought UT made a pretty big one last year. Are they just pumping this up because they all pick Cal to win and want to say I told you so?

as many as it takes i guess? on one hand i can see it...you got all this talent on offense, what everyone considers to be a great offensive coach who has brought Cal out of the bottom of the Pac 10 to respectability. On the other, you have a track record of losing just about every single big game you've ever played in, save the USC victory a few years ago. they got beat by TX Tech, TN, AZ, etc, etc, in all recent big games and they've lost 2-3 in a row to USC....the track record says it's a trend. the general opinion, based on picks and spread, says it's the excepiton.....

we'll see which is true on Saturday.

 

[justingroves]

as many as it takes i guess? on one hand i can see it...you got all this talent on offense, what everyone considers to be a great offensive coach who has brought Cal out of the bottom of the Pac 10 to respectability. On the other, you have a track record of losing just about every single big game you've ever played in, save the USC victory a few years ago. they got beat by TX Tech, TN, AZ, etc, etc, in all recent big games and they've lost 2-3 in a row to USC....the track record says it's a trend. the general opinion, based on picks and spread, says it's the excepiton.....

we'll see which is true on Saturday.

I'll go with "What is track record" for 200 please

 

[droski]

the track record says it's a trend. the general opinion, based on picks and spread, says it's the excepiton.....

we'll see which is true on Saturday.

tedford is something like 70% against the spread in his cal career.

 

[justingroves]

The pressure is on Cal to redeem the PAC-10. Cal must win this game to be considered more than just hype. If UT comes in and wins, then it's just another told ya so type game.

 

[jakez4ut]

tedford is something like 70% against the spread in his cal career.

that's fine, and the spread probably ins't a good indicator of who people think will win....as VIA as said many many times, it's just set up to get people to bet...so probably a bad use of it here.

the point is, Cal is once again hyped up, and while i do see why, when you really go back and look, there is really no reason for it, based on how they have performed in big games, to date.

can that change? sure. will it? we'll see. Cal needs this win more than we do, that is if you believe everything you read anyway.

 

[Vol423]

I haven’t heard anybody say that this game is “about showing the nation that the PAC10 is the dominant league in the nation.” What I have heard (and I heard it again from Colin Cowherd this morning on the radio, was that UT effectively crushed Cal last year by exposing them as being soft and weak. Despite the PAC-10’s overall non-conference record (in which they went 6-1 against the Big 12) and impressive bowl record last year, the national view of the PAC-10 conference was that the conference was soft and weak due to the fact that UT crushed Cal in the first week of the season. Therefore, what I am hearing is that this is a huge game for the PAC-10 as a whole to show that they are not a soft, weak conference and that they are legitimately the 2nd best conference in the nation and not as far behind the SEC as last year’s blowout would lead people to believe.

 

[droski]

I haven’t heard anybody say that this game is “about showing the nation that the PAC10 is the dominant league in the nation.” What I have heard (and I heard it again from Colin Cowherd this morning on the radio, was that UT effectively crushed Cal last year by exposing them as being soft and weak. Despite the PAC-10’s overall non-conference record (in which they went 6-1 against the Big 12) and impressive bowl record last year, the national view of the PAC-10 conference was that the conference was soft and weak due to the fact that UT crushed Cal in the first week of the season. Therefore, what I am hearing is that this is a huge game for the PAC-10 as a whole to show that they are not a soft, weak conference and that they are legitimately the 2nd best conference in the nation and not as far behind the SEC as last year’s blowout would lead people to believe.

agree 100%

 

[GAVol]

I haven’t heard anybody say that this game is “about showing the nation that the PAC10 is the dominant league in the nation.” What I have heard (and I heard it again from Colin Cowherd this morning on the radio, was that UT effectively crushed Cal last year by exposing them as being soft and weak. Despite the PAC-10’s overall non-conference record (in which they went 6-1 against the Big 12) and impressive bowl record last year, the national view of the PAC-10 conference was that the conference was soft and weak due to the fact that UT crushed Cal in the first week of the season. Therefore, what I am hearing is that this is a huge game for the PAC-10 as a whole to show that they are not a soft, weak conference and that they are legitimately the 2nd best conference in the nation and not as far behind the SEC as last year’s blowout would lead people to believe.

I was listening to the exact same thing this morning, and it's hard to argue with what he was saying.
What I do find funny is how definitive Cowherd and Corso were with their picks of Cal. I can understand someone picking Cal, but I haven't figured out how you can do it so authoritatively after what we saw last year. I don't think I've ever seen a beatdown get dismissed as quickly as the 2006 Cal/Tennessee game.

Then Corso turned around and said that Tennessee might be a surprise team. :wacko:

 

[Cartervol]

Yeah,I'am glad the media is building it up as such.It is the same ole story from the talking heads redemption,revenge,whatever.In the end the team with the better eleven guys on the feild nine times out of ten win's the game.The one exception when the better team has to play the other team and the ref's too.Turnover's can be a exception also(see 2002 SEC championship game for example).

 

[droski]

I was listening to the exact same thing this morning, and it's hard to argue with what he was saying.
What I do find funny is how definitive Cowherd and Corso were with their picks of Cal. I can understand someone picking Cal, but I haven't figured out how you can do it so authoritatively after what we saw last year. I don't think I've ever seen a beatdown get dismissed as quickly as the 2006 Cal/Tennessee game.

Then Corso turned around and said that Tennessee might be a surprise team. :wacko:

cowherd picked cal? amazing. what a bandwaggoner that idiot is. This is the same guy last year who regurally picked against cal and even said that oregon would "blow out" cal. Whoops.

 

[eternal]

just look here.
You can see all the same people pick cal again
History repeats its self
Cal always gets blown out when opening to a SEC team