our qb situation

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Does anyone think that maybe our qb's have the potential to be much better than they played and maybe its just clawson didnt develop them? I hope its the same situation that happened with 05 ainge. Anyone else think this is a possibility?
 
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Crompton has tons of talent but cant handle pressure, nick stephens..., Coleman i havent seen enough of yet
 
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Potential to be "much better," of course. They couldn't possibly play any worse.

Potential to be good, to perform at an acceptable level in the SEC, I highly doubt it.
 
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convinced me that his case is hopeless. I hope I am wrong. Kiffin will lose mega games next year if he is relying on these 3.
 
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but freshman qb's are never a whole lot better than they were last year and they all have experience and are a little bit seasoned to sec speed. Maybe its just me being optimistic but i feel like if one of the three from this year dont develop and start this hope of a 8 win season next year is too far fetched
 
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I never knew how much Ainge improved from 2005 to 2006

Year - Comp, Att, Yds, Comp%, YPA, Long, TD, INT, RAT
2005 66 145 737 45.5 5.08 50 5 7 89.94
2006 233 348 2989 67.0 8.59 84 19 9 151.95
 
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Knox9552 said:
I never knew how much Ainge improved from 2005 to 2006

Year - Comp, Att, Yds, Comp%, YPA, Long, TD, INT, RAT
2005 66 145 737 45.5 5.08 50 5 7 89.94
2006 233 348 2989 67.0 8.59 84 19 9 151.95
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He was hurt in '05. Compare 2004 to 2006 and it's a different story.

2004 109 198 1452 55.1 7.33 60 17 9 5 135.89
2006 233 348 2989 67.0 8.59 84 19 9 13 151.95

There, he just looks like the same player, who improved with experience. And in 2007...

2007 325 519 3522 62.6 6.79 65 31 10 3 135.48

We relied on him a lot more, with the spike in attempts and the drop in yards/attempt, but he responded (3,522 yards, 31-10 ratio).

This has nothing to do with how lousy Crompton is.
 
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Ainge's injuries in 2005 didn't make those stats look worse. They tried to drop the job in his lap before he'd won it from Clausen. Not entirely dissimilar from JC last spring.

I am 95% certain that one of the three will be the starter next August.
 
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sjt18 said:
Ainge's injuries in 2005 didn't make those stats look worse. They tried to drop the job in his lap before he'd won it from Clausen. Not entirely dissimilar from JC last spring.

I am 95% certain that one of the three will be the starter next August.
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As it stands, I don't think that's much of a stretch.
 
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I think Crompton is hopeless.

I believe Stephens or Coleman either one could turn in to a pretty solid QB for us if we get a good QB coach that can develop them during the spring and summer camps. They both have more experience and I think enough talent to be better than a kid right out of high school. This is assuming we get someone that can develop them.
 
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i'm actually hoping that crompton will turn it around. there are certain moments, albeit very rare, where he makes a pretty good pass. verdicts still out on coleman. i'm not sure of how much stephens can improve either
 
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Knox9552 said:
I never knew how much Ainge improved from 2005 to 2006

Year - Comp, Att, Yds, Comp%, YPA, Long, TD, INT, RAT
2005 66 145 737 45.5 5.08 50 5 7 89.94
2006 233 348 2989 67.0 8.59 84 19 9 151.95
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the ainge of '05 and the ainge of '06 were like 2 completely different quarterbacks.
 
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jbakes said:
convinced me that his case is hopeless. I hope I am wrong. Kiffin will lose mega games next year if he is relying on these 3.
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We did not see enough of Coleman to make a determination if he will be good or not. We used 4 QB'S in the Vandy game and Coleman was never allowed to get into any rhythm. Coleman shows decent instinct and a passion for the game. Crompton well we all know how he is. Stephens isn't bad and just like previous posters have said we need someone to develop our QB'S. Only time will tell but one of these guys might just turn out pretty good.
 
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Stephens has the rocket arm just not sure he is coachable. Coleman it is hard to tell , he didn't get to really do much. But Cut liked Coleman and Cut knows qb's.
 
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duckman398686 said:
i'm actually hoping that crompton will turn it around. there are certain moments, albeit very rare, where he makes a pretty good pass. verdicts still out on coleman. i'm not sure of how much stephens can improve either
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Yeah, every now and then the receiver he was zeroed in on would be the one who came open.
 
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I think alot of our qb problems this year was due to Clawson didnt know how to develop them and part of it was his play calling as well.....3rd down and half the field to go...Let's throw a bubble screen and get 5 yards and punt...Crompton could be fine with some coaching (look at the LSU game in 2006, yeah we lost but he kept us in it and didn't hardly miss a beat) and I thought before Stephens had those 2 bad games in the Northern Ill and Georgia games he played decent I just think that obviously alot of things wrong with the offense this year was play calling...Clawson would call some plays that would just make you think "what the hell?"
 
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#10_Ainge_#10 said:
I think alot of our qb problems this year was due to Clawson didnt know how to develop them and part of it was his play calling as well.....3rd down and half the field to go...Let's throw a bubble screen and get 5 yards and punt...Crompton could be fine with some coaching (look at the LSU game in 2006, yeah we lost but he kept us in it and didn't hardly miss a beat) and I thought before Stephens had those 2 bad games in the Northern Ill and Georgia games he played decent I just think that obviously alot of things wrong with the offense this year was play calling...Clawson would call some plays that would just make you think "what the hell?"
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If this is the case, and it very well may be, all 3 of these guys could look like totally different players by next year. Seriously, all 3 of these guys were rated pretty high coming out of high school for a reason. They can't all be bad. I am anxious to see what happens with a good QB coach. However, I am still skeptical with Crompton. He really looked bad. It would take a miracle worker for him.
 
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tennisguy said:
If this is the case, and it very well may be, all 3 of these guys could look like totally different players by next year. Seriously, all 3 of these guys were rated pretty high coming out of high school for a reason. They can't all be bad. I am anxious to see what happens with a good QB coach. However, I am still skeptical with Crompton. He really looked bad. It would take a miracle worker for him.
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I really think Crompton could be good he just has to have some coaching, I mean don't get me wrong I agree with everybody that says he has played god awful this year but he just IMO needs the proper coaching....Same goes for Stephens and Coleman....Coleman I thought what little bit we saw of him gave us some of the best play from the QB spot all year...But like I say I just think alot of it was play calling and lack of development....They can only do what they were coached and run the plays they are told..I mean I saw earlier in the thread where Ainge from 05 to 06...They looked like 2 totally different QBs....And I believe it was because of Cutcliffe(obviously)....I think Kiffin knows next year maybe tough sledding at the QB position but I also think he knows with some coaching the talent he's got wouldn't be too shabby
 
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tennisguy said:
If this is the case, and it very well may be, all 3 of these guys could look like totally different players by next year. Seriously, all 3 of these guys were rated pretty high coming out of high school for a reason. They can't all be bad. I am anxious to see what happens with a good QB coach. However, I am still skeptical with Crompton. He really looked bad. It would take a miracle worker for him.
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Brett Favre would suck with our O line play this year. Who knows if the 3 we have got now will be better than what Kif has in mind?
 
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#10_Ainge_#10 said:
I think alot of our qb problems this year was due to Clawson didnt know how to develop them and part of it was his play calling as well.
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agreed. the ucla game should be a prime example. that was one of the worst game plans i've seen in awhile. not only is crompton not eased into the game by not having easy pass plays early on to allow him to get into a rhythym, but he also threw it 42 times.
 
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duckman398686 said:
agreed. the ucla game should be a prime example. that was one of the worst game plans i've seen in awhile. not only is crompton not eased into the game by not having easy pass plays to set him up, but he also threw 42 times.
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If we pound the ball against UCLA we win that game....Crompton should have been throwing 5-10 yard passes until he hit his rhythm....Because I mean we've seen he's got a good arm on him, he just couldnt hit the Neyland Stadium with a truck...lol...I just didn't think Clawson's system was all that great, I was excited when we got him but after the Florida game and being there and watching some of the bone headed plays being called in person, I knew right then it was going to be a tough year, I could understand losing to UCLA first game of the year even though they were terrible....NEw QB, new system, blah blah blah...But there was no excuse for the Wyoming game...With the kind of defense we played this year if we even had a mediocre offense we woulda won at least 9 games....We wouldn't have beat Florida and Bama but we could have beat UGA and should have beat Auburn
 
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