Our Program and Staff: Creating a "Buzz" or lack thereof..

[HvilleCommando]

I'd like to start by saying i'm in full support of Dooley and hope he does well for us. I also decided to post this here because it has alot to do with recruiting and just the fact that people in the football forum may not understand where i'm coming from.

This is just something i think this staff should be doing, and something that could be fixed relatively easily and could help greatly benefit us. If you've noticed, our staff does little to connect with the UT fan base and get people outside the program EXCITED about the direction of our program. Us Vol fans are limited to mere Post-practice youtube videos during fall camp to get an idea of whats going on with our program or the occational newpaper article with an inside track.

I hate to compare Dooley and James Franklin, but I say this because he is a good example. You look at Derek Dooley's twitter, and he has 0 tweets. He does nothing to connect to our fanbase and thank them for our support and encourage them to keep supporting the team and tell the public about the POSITIVE DIRECTION of our program. James Franklin and their entire staff on the other hand has done an exceptional job at creating excitement about the direction of their program and much of that is due to the fact that they reach out to what few fans they have to encourage more support and to thank them.

And coming from a 19 year old kid at UT... High school recruits eat this stuff up, I can promise you. They love to see programs with a "buzz" around it... A program that is on the rise...Our program is back on the rise, but our staff does little to make the general public understand that. I think it's fair to say that we are failing to create a buzz for this upcoming season and for the program's future in general.

Sometimes Big Brother needs to swallow his pride and can learn something from Little Brother every once in awhile..

JamesFranklinVU: "Vandyville will b out of control this yr, so much excitement, what's better than spending the afternoon w/ friends watching a ball game!"

"Best coaching staff in the country, no doubt in my mind, great men, tremendous leaders, outstanding knowledge of the game, recruit w/ anyone. THANKS!"

"Everyone plan on coming 2 Barnes and Noble at VU & see the unveiling of our new unis, should be a lot of fun, July 11th from 6-8 PM! #AnchorDown"

FBCoachBankins (Special Teams, TEs)
"***BREAKING NEWS*** Be careful around the Vandy football complex from 1pm to 5pm. 2 much "STAR" power in 1 location. Power Surge! #AD"

Now im not trying to make this a thread about Twitter. Twitter is just one of many ways coaches can reach out to the public. I'm using it becuase it is a great example of what im talking about and can be easily referenced. Kiffin had too much hot sauce, but right now we dont have any sauce.. What say you?

 

[AG4VOLS]

If we were Vandy we'd be just as excited about a six win season and a lot of close losses. We're Tennessee. We don't scream and tweet star power after a six win season, much less a five. I say let them work, and we'll know all we need to know by week five.

 

[Vol2424]

I think his intention is to show it on the field if it's possible. I'm sure he is worried about that much more than tweeting and kissing radio hosts asses. I know what you are trying to say , but Dooley just isn't that way. I'd say he is more of a "talk is cheap" type. He's not trying to pour hot sauce on **** and make you believe it's something it's not. Wait and see how things turn out when you see what Vandy does this year. Franklin's words and hype won't mean anything when they win 3 or 4 games. We are Tennessee. We shouldn't have to tell people anything. We just gotta get back to being who we already are. We have a tradition and history. Franklin is just wishing for one.

 

[UTMVol76]

I think his intention is to show it on the field if it's possible. I'm sure he is worried about that much more than tweeting and kissing radio hosts asses. I know what you are trying to say , but Dooley just isn't that way. I'd say he is more of a "talk is cheap" type. He's not trying to pour hot sauce on **** and make you believe it's something it's not. Wait and see how things turn out when you see what Vandy does this year. Franklin's words and hype won't mean anything when they win 3 or 4 games. We are Tennessee. We shouldn't have to tell people anything. We just gotta get back to being who we already are. We have a tradition and history. Franklin is just wishing for one.

Well said, IMO.

 

[HvilleCommando]

If we were Vandy we'd be just as excited about a six win season and a lot of close losses. We're Tennessee. We don't scream and tweet star power after a six win season, much less a five. I say let them work, and we'll know all we need to know by week five.

Well obviously there's a difference. They were happy with their record (which is sad) and we were dissapointed with ours. But still, its not hard to see that our staff does nothing to create excitement about our team,recruiting or the future of the program. It's something that recruits take notice in... and it could only help us.

 

[VFL 24/7]

I'd like to start by saying i'm in full support of Dooley and hope he does well for us. I also decided to post this here because it has alot to do with recruiting and just the fact that people in the football forum may not understand where i'm coming from.

This is just something i think this staff should be doing, and something that could be fixed relatively easily and could help greatly benefit us. If you've noticed, our staff does little to connect with the UT fan base and get people outside the program EXCITED about the direction of our program. Us Vol fans are limited to mere Post-practice youtube videos during fall camp to get an idea of whats going on with our program or the occational newpaper article with an inside track.

I hate to compare Dooley and James Franklin, but I say this because he is a good example. You look at Derek Dooley's twitter, and he has 0 tweets. He does nothing to connect to our fanbase and thank them for our support and encourage them to keep supporting the team and tell the public about the POSITIVE DIRECTION of our program. James Franklin and their entire staff on the other hand has done an exceptional job at creating excitement about the direction of their program and much of that is due to the fact that they reach out to what few fans they have to encourage more support and to thank them.

And coming from a 19 year old kid at UT... High school recruits eat this stuff up, I can promise you. They love to see programs with a "buzz" around it... A program that is on the rise...Our program is back on the rise, but our staff does little to make the general public understand that. I think it's fair to say that we are failing to create a buzz for this upcoming season and for the program's future in general.

Sometimes Big Brother needs to swallow his pride and can learn something from Little Brother every once in awhile..











Now im not trying to make this a thread about Twitter. Twitter is just one of many ways coaches can reach out to the public. I'm using it becuase it is a great example of what im talking about and can be easily referenced. Kiffin had too much hot sauce, but right now we dont have any sauce.. What say you?

I couldn't agree more, the one thing kiffin did was get our name out there. I watch t.v and go on the internet all the damn time and rarely will I see something about UT (unless if its how Dooley is on the hot seat). I for one am in high school and currently play football and I have friends that are getting recruited to multiple schools, and from that you are exactly right, kids my age want buzz and excitement. IMO we are way to quite and as a result we aren't IMO recruiting the way we should.

 

[Atzar]

Reasonable post IMO. I don't care about Twitter personally, but I do agree that the current staff could do more to generate positive hype around the program.

 

[BigOrange15]

Good post.

 

[Ernest Volmingway]

1: James Franklin is the king of douche bags. Star Power? Call me back when you show up in front of "Vanderbilt Baseball" and "Vanderbilt Medical Center" on my Google search, please.

2: Vandyville? I mean really, that sounds like a child's summer camp that Jerry Sandusky would be interested in attending. And the only Barnes and Nobles event I will be attending is if Katy Perry writes a book and is doing a free sign and (topless) greet.

3: If 6-7 qualifies you as being "the best coaching staff in the country" than we should all be thankful that we have Dooley and Co. because obviously we are on the threshold of the best coaching staff the world has ever seen.

4: **** Vandy. They couldn't beat us with a one-handed QB during one our most vulnerable years. They won't beat us for another 167 years.

 

[SLOBBER_KNOCKER_U]

So you want Dooley to blow smoke up everyones a$$es? Look at most of the big time college football coaches, they don't tweet. Take Saban for example. He gets it done on the field. Plus bama, UT is a brand that doesnt have to try and build their fanbase like vandy. Franklin is just an immature little prick that talks a big game to get followers. He's nothing but hot sauce covering up a bland program. I want Dooley to win games on the field, he doesnt have to be the grand marshall at the Nashville and Knoxville parades. Just win! F the rest!

 

[HvilleCommando]

So you want Dooley to blow smoke up everyones a$$es? Look at most of the big time college football coaches, they don't tweet. Take Saban for example. He gets it done on the field. Plus bama, UT is a brand that doesnt have to try and build their fanbase like vandy. Franklin is just an immature little prick that talks a big game to get followers. He's nothing but hot sauce covering up a bland program. I want Dooley to win games on the field, he doesnt have to be the grand marshall at the Nashville and Knoxville parades. Just win! F the rest!

You have a very limited way of thinking then. Saban is old and all he does is win. Why would he need to reach out to his fanbase when he's brought in 2 crystal footballs in the last 3 years? Terrible comparison. We're in a completely different situation... and if we want to recruit with the big boys, it wouldnt hurt for our staff to give the public the vibe that we're about to be butting heads with those big boys in the near future. Say what you want, but there's something to be said about a little "hot sauce" to get people excited about the direction of a program.

 

[10acvols]

I'd like to start by saying i'm in full support of Dooley and hope he does well for us. I also decided to post this here because it has alot to do with recruiting and just the fact that people in the football forum may not understand where i'm coming from.

This is just something i think this staff should be doing, and something that could be fixed relatively easily and could help greatly benefit us. If you've noticed, our staff does little to connect with the UT fan base and get people outside the program EXCITED about the direction of our program. Us Vol fans are limited to mere Post-practice youtube videos during fall camp to get an idea of whats going on with our program or the occational newpaper article with an inside track.

I hate to compare Dooley and James Franklin, but I say this because he is a good example. You look at Derek Dooley's twitter, and he has 0 tweets. He does nothing to connect to our fanbase and thank them for our support and encourage them to keep supporting the team and tell the public about the POSITIVE DIRECTION of our program. James Franklin and their entire staff on the other hand has done an exceptional job at creating excitement about the direction of their program and much of that is due to the fact that they reach out to what few fans they have to encourage more support and to thank them.

And coming from a 19 year old kid at UT... High school recruits eat this stuff up, I can promise you. They love to see programs with a "buzz" around it... A program that is on the rise...Our program is back on the rise, but our staff does little to make the general public understand that. I think it's fair to say that we are failing to create a buzz for this upcoming season and for the program's future in general.

Sometimes Big Brother needs to swallow his pride and can learn something from Little Brother every once in awhile..











Now im not trying to make this a thread about Twitter. Twitter is just one of many ways coaches can reach out to the public. I'm using it becuase it is a great example of what im talking about and can be easily referenced. Kiffin had too much hot sauce, but right now we dont have any sauce.. What say you?

Coach B. Pearl would have been a better comparison imo :hi:

 

[Give 'em Six]

I think his intention is to show it on the field if it's possible. I'm sure he is worried about that much more than tweeting and kissing radio hosts asses. I know what you are trying to say , but Dooley just isn't that way. I'd say he is more of a "talk is cheap" type. He's not trying to pour hot sauce on **** and make you believe it's something it's not. Wait and see how things turn out when you see what Vandy does this year. Franklin's words and hype won't mean anything when they win 3 or 4 games. We are Tennessee. We shouldn't have to tell people anything. We just gotta get back to being who we already are. We have a tradition and history. Franklin is just wishing for one.

Agree...Dooley's approach is in line with the pride, tradition, and dignity of the great program that UT has historically been. We all wish that we had better access to football information but I think that Dooley is working from the inside out in getting the program back to its winning ways. Lord knows, he's had a handful.

 

[darkgable]

I'd like to start by saying i'm in full support of Dooley and hope he does well for us. I also decided to post this here because it has alot to do with recruiting and just the fact that people in the football forum may not understand where i'm coming from.

This is just something i think this staff should be doing, and something that could be fixed relatively easily and could help greatly benefit us. If you've noticed, our staff does little to connect with the UT fan base and get people outside the program EXCITED about the direction of our program. Us Vol fans are limited to mere Post-practice youtube videos during fall camp to get an idea of whats going on with our program or the occational newpaper article with an inside track.

I hate to compare Dooley and James Franklin, but I say this because he is a good example. You look at Derek Dooley's twitter, and he has 0 tweets. He does nothing to connect to our fanbase and thank them for our support and encourage them to keep supporting the team and tell the public about the POSITIVE DIRECTION of our program. James Franklin and their entire staff on the other hand has done an exceptional job at creating excitement about the direction of their program and much of that is due to the fact that they reach out to what few fans they have to encourage more support and to thank them.

And coming from a 19 year old kid at UT... High school recruits eat this stuff up, I can promise you. They love to see programs with a "buzz" around it... A program that is on the rise...Our program is back on the rise, but our staff does little to make the general public understand that. I think it's fair to say that we are failing to create a buzz for this upcoming season and for the program's future in general.

Sometimes Big Brother needs to swallow his pride and can learn something from Little Brother every once in awhile..











Now im not trying to make this a thread about Twitter. Twitter is just one of many ways coaches can reach out to the public. I'm using it becuase it is a great example of what im talking about and can be easily referenced. Kiffin had too much hot sauce, but right now we dont have any sauce.. What say you?

It never ceases to amaze me the ridicule and over analyzing of Coach Dooley. His job is not to satisfy some emptiness you have inside you because you're ansy during the offseason and can't wait till the season starts. Dooley is doing his job so let him do it. He doesn't have time to go throughout the NegaVol community and stroke egos like yours. He's scheming, game planning, recruiting. Wait...running a football team. Just because you say that if you were a recruit you would want the "hot sauce" does not mean recruits that he's going after want the "hot sauce". He knows how to recruit and doesn't need any advise from message boarders on how to get the job done. If that were the case all of us would be Div I coaches. But guess what? We aren't and many of us trust and believe in him to get it done. This season is about "resiliency" meaning the ability to bounce back from adversity and that's what all of these players have been focused on. I get that the season can't get here soon enough for you, myself and others but dude. He doesn't need any help from you or any other keyboard coach. This is his chosen profession, its what he does. So instead of you trying to model him after James "Boom Boom" Franklin lets allow him to be Coach Dooley of the Tennessee Volunteers. This over analyzing him and throwing every negative thing at the wall to see what will stick is getting old.

 

[tim]

Compare JF's recruiting careeer to CDD's. There is no comparison. JF is the one who should be taking notes in that area. Me and people like me are turned off by the used car salesman pitch JF brings and Im sure word will soon be out.

 

[otis72]

If we were Vandy we'd be just as excited about a six win season and a lot of close losses. We're Tennessee. We don't scream and tweet star power after a six win season, much less a five. I say let them work, and we'll know all we need to know by week five.

Dooley did after we beat vandy and ended with a 5 and 7 record.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Talk is cheap and so is twitter. Getting it done on the field is what counts.Dooley can silence his critics with a solid campaign this year. Franklin has to drum up excitement about his program. On a bad day at Neyland how many would you say attend 90,000?
That is probably a three game total for Vandy.

Barnes and Noble for a big unveil? Don't go, there will be Vandy football players selling magazine subscriptions and candy bars.

 

[Vol2424]

Dooley did after we beat vandy and ended with a 5 and 7 record.

Fail.


He did so In the locker room with his team. Not in public. He did what any coach would do. He celebrated with the team after a win in overtime. Total shock , right? Try again , Otis.

He wasn't bull****ting when he reminded the team we always kick the **** out of Vandy. It wasn't his fault the video got out. If you want to see classless , watch the reaction of Saif Franklin when he leaves the field. He showed his ass more than CDD ever did that night. Y'all need to get off Franklin's nuts.

 

[SDV]

Good post OP

 

[lovavol]

I'd like to start by saying i'm in full support of Dooley and hope he does well for us. I also decided to post this here because it has alot to do with recruiting and just the fact that people in the football forum may not understand where i'm coming from.

This is just something i think this staff should be doing, and something that could be fixed relatively easily and could help greatly benefit us. If you've noticed, our staff does little to connect with the UT fan base and get people outside the program EXCITED about the direction of our program. Us Vol fans are limited to mere Post-practice youtube videos during fall camp to get an idea of whats going on with our program or the occational newpaper article with an inside track.

I hate to compare Dooley and James Franklin, but I say this because he is a good example. You look at Derek Dooley's twitter, and he has 0 tweets. He does nothing to connect to our fanbase and thank them for our support and encourage them to keep supporting the team and tell the public about the POSITIVE DIRECTION of our program. James Franklin and their entire staff on the other hand has done an exceptional job at creating excitement about the direction of their program and much of that is due to the fact that they reach out to what few fans they have to encourage more support and to thank them.

And coming from a 19 year old kid at UT... High school recruits eat this stuff up, I can promise you. They love to see programs with a "buzz" around it... A program that is on the rise...Our program is back on the rise, but our staff does little to make the general public understand that. I think it's fair to say that we are failing to create a buzz for this upcoming season and for the program's future in general.

Sometimes Big Brother needs to swallow his pride and can learn something from Little Brother every once in awhile..











Now im not trying to make this a thread about Twitter. Twitter is just one of many ways coaches can reach out to the public. I'm using it becuase it is a great example of what im talking about and can be easily referenced. Kiffin had too much hot sauce, but right now we dont have any sauce.. What say you?

let CDD and staff coach, and alot of tweets are by grad ass. and so much star power? everyone knows most real good recruits aint going to candyland. can't wait for 8-31, then we can talk about football and not social media, and I like no sauce, you were talkin BBQ

 

[tim]

talk is cheap and so is twitter. Getting it done on the field is what counts.dooley can silence his critics with a solid campaign this year. Franklin has to drum up excitement about his program. On a bad day at neyland how many would you say attend 90,000?
That is probably a three game total for vandy.

Barnes and noble for a big unveil? Don't go, there will be vandy football players selling magazine subscriptions and candy bars.

aljo

 

[rekinhavoc]

aljo

smmg

 

[Evol]

I don't check Twitter, but I'm willing to bet that Nick Saban rarely posts anything... if ever. Thats where Dooley's roots are. He wants to be the next Saban, not the next James Franklin.

I understand where you're coming from, we could all use a little excitement. But don't expect Dooley to be anything like Franklin. Its just not who he is. Saban is his hero, and thats ok with me.

 

[Spartacavolus]

can you freaking imagine the backlash if DD was putting out tweets? He'd get lambasted on here for saying the staff is the best in the country and blowing a bunch of hot air.

That's a problem if it doesn't work out. Kids buy the hype, realize it's fake when the stuff hits the fan, and end up confused because it isn't what they were told. That's one reason why we are in trouble right now. Kids were lied to or were sold on something besides the basics and when things didn't go as planned, they bailed or acted out.

I'm all for getting fans excited somehow, but bs tweets with bs quotes isn't the answer for building a foundation.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Not saying it's good or bad... It's just not his style