Orange-Colored Glasses vs Modest Expectations

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It's the offseason and I felt like writing something. So here are my reasons for optimism versus reasons for modest expectations for the 2018 season.


The Orange Colored Glasses View

Here's the orange-colored glasses argument for our why our Vols could be significantly better than the media thinks.

Severe underperformance in 2017. We may have been 4-8 last season, but it wasn't because we didn't have talent. Look at any of the recruiting services and it's clear we had top 10 or at least top 15 type talent. Based on talent alone, we should've gone 8-4 or 9-3. The previous staff severely underperformed given this. Once again, if we're going solely on talent level, our expected record is probably somewhere in the 8-4 to 9-3 range. If Pruitt & Co can harness the most out of these players, it's easy to envision us winning quite a few more than last season.

Nowhere to go but up on offense. On many statistical measures, we were among the worst 10 offenses in the NCAA last season. On a talent-adjusted basis, you can make the case we were "THE" worst in the entire NCAA. So it's virtually impossible for the 2018 offense to be any worse than the 2017 offense. Of course, the real question is 'how much improvement will we see', but I can guarantee that the offense will be better this year than last.

Close losses. In spite of a historically awful season, we weren't nearly as bad as the 4-8 record indicated. Many of those losses were close ones, including Florida (6 points), South Carolina (6 points), and Kentucky (3 points). Arguably, with a decent set of coaches, we would've won all 3 of those games last season and been 7-5.

We lose very few starters on offense and defense.
We lose Kahlil McKenzie, Kendal Vickers, and John Kelly. Not a lot of losses for an SEC team. The only area where we'll take a big hit is on Special Teams, where we lose Trevor Daniel, Aaron Medley, and Evan Berry. The good news is that Cimaglia, who replaces Medley, already has a year under his belt at Kicker, so that transition should be easier, but we'll have to see about Punter and Kick Returner.

JG was better than most think. When you consider that our O-line was a trainwreck last season and we had no solid 'possession receivers', JG's stats were pretty damn good. 62% completion rate, 7.2 ypa, 2 TD/INT ratio, and 129 rating. When compared to other Freshmen and Sophomore UT QBs of the past 15 years, only Erik Ainge and Josh Dobbs had better numbers, and even then JG was much better than Sophomore Erik Ainge (and arguably close to Freshman Ainge). JG is so much better than most people realize. He just needs an O-line to protect him and a real QB coach. Regardless of whether JG or Chryst wins the starting job, I think we'll see improvement at QB.

Wide Receivers could be "Most Improved" position group. WR was a position of weakness last season, particularly after we lost JJ. Marquez Callaway was extremely good at times and Brandon Johnson really came on at the very end of the season, but we did not have many reliable WRs beyond those two. Getting back Jennings will be big, but we also will hopefully have improved versions of Callaway and Johnson.

Pruitt working hard on O-line. Our O-line was a disaster last season, but it's clear Pruitt understands this is a problem, and has taken great efforts to shore up the line. Don't expect miracles, but adding Brandon Kennedy is pretty big. We also gain Jerome Carvin. We bring back superstar Trey Smith, as well as big potential contributors in Drew Richmond, Ryan Johnson, and Marcus Tatus. I still expect the O-line to be a weakness overall, but hopefully it goes from like a "2" (out of 10) to a "6".

Tyson Helton was really good at Western Kentucky. Turning around our disaster of an offense in one season will be a challenge, but Helton's offenses at Western Kentucky were *really* good. Mind you, it's not the SEC, but it was rare for WKU under Helton to score under 35 points in a game. The 2015 squad (Helton's 2nd season) went 12-2 and only had 2 games with under 35 points (@ LSU, @ Vanderbilt).

We have more talent than most realize on defense.
Our defense underperformed last season. Part of it was injuries. Part of it was the offense keeping the D on the field too long. Part of it may have been coaching as well (I'm now convinced that Brady Hoke is well past his prime at this point.) But talent wise, we're not at a shortage with guys like Nigel Warrior, Daniel Bituli, Kyle Phillips, and Darrell Taylor. If Shy Tuttle and DK Jr can come back anywhere close to 100%, this is not a bad defense personnel-wise. They just need better coaching, better S&C, and better game-planning.

Florida, West Virginia, and South Carolina are all winnable games. For whatever reason, the media seems to think we'll suck again this season, but Florida goes from 4-7 basement dweller to SEC East power in one season. I think Dan Mullen is a great coach who will get Florida "back" but Florida's roster is actually in worse shape than ours for the re-build and the game is in Knoxville. West Virginia will have a high-powered offense, but their defense will be beatable. They are also arguably one of the most overrated teams this pre-season. And while I think South Carolina could be the 2nd best team in the East, remember that this is a team that we were damn close to beating last year (and probably should've beaten).


The Modest Expectations View

There are legit reasons for optimism, but here are the reasons to 'pump the brakes' and brace for modest expectations.

Great coaches typically aren't "great" in Year 1. This is a surprisingly consistent theme in college football. Saban was 7-6 at Alabama. Pete Carroll was 6-6 at USC. Stoops was 7-5 at Oklahoma. Kirby Smart was 8-5 at Georgia. Mark Richt went 8-4. Gene Stallings was 7-5 at Bama. Dabo Swinney was 9-5 (and didn't hit his stride until his 4th full season). The list goes on and on. There are a few exceptions to the rule (Spurrier was 9-2 during his first season at Florida), but by and large, it's rare for great coaches to turn things around before Year 2 at the earliest.

Change in philosophy on both sides of the ball. Switching to a 3-4 from a 4-3 is a particularly difficult transition and one that rarely goes well in Year 1. While Pruitt wants to keeps some flexibility in the defensive scheme, he does seem committed to a 3-4 base in Year 1. It's difficult to tell how that transition will go since many guys will be playing new roles. Kongbo and Darrell Taylor move to OLB, for instance. Also losing Kahlil McKenzie may be a bigger blow than it seems, as he was ideally suited for the Nose Tackle position in the 3-4 much more so than a DT in a 4-3. Also a complete switch on offense, as well, but seems like it's difficult to go downhill from 'nearly worst in the country' anyway.

Tough schedule. I don't know why it is, but we always seem to draw our SEC West opponents when they are at the 'top of the cycle' so to speak. We never get the teams in their down years. This year is no different with an Auburn team that is a potential national title contender. Add Alabama and Georgia and there are already 3 games that are going to be extremely difficult to win. And while WV, Florida, SC, and Mizzou are all winnable, it's going to be tough to win all of those games.

O-line is still a weakness. I think the O-line will improve this season, but I don't see it going from 'awful' to 'elite' in 1 year. Assuming the turnaround goes well, we still probably end up with a middling O-line this season. Hopefully, better than last season, but we're still going to struggle against the likes of Bama and Georgia.

Offense may not improve enough. It's tough to go from 'last in the SEC' to 'great' in one season. While Helton was great at WKU, he took over a pretty good offense.

One injury away ... . We're still one injury away from being a much lesser team at many position groups including WR, O-line, and D-line.



The End

No predictions. I'm just going to enjoy the season. I think we'll be better than "the media" thinks, but tough to say where we'll end up. 6-6, 7-5, 8-4? Your guess is as good as mine. Hoping for a bowl game at least.

OK, maybe one prediction. We'll beat Florida. That's my only prediction for the season. :)

Can the season hurry up and start? 5 more weeks and football is back. Just gotta survive 5 weeks. That's it.
 
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We have not had any help from the coaching position for 15 years. Waiting and hoping that position will kick in soon. Its hard to win a game when you consistently lose at this position. Win the coaching battle every week and wins will follow, no worries.
 
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So, are you willing to predict that Pruitt will be to Mullen as Spurrier was to Fulmer?

Just askin'...
 
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The season hasn't started yet. There's still time to indulge the orange world view...
 
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Modest Expectation,, Talent on 1st Team,, Not so much on 2nd. Hard to win in this Conference when injuries occur and your depth is suspect.
Learning New Systems on Offense and Defense takes time.. Its not like Vols are lining up against Grundy County and Tullahoma HS
 
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Elevating expectations to a level beyond "hope" is key to long-term success. Settling for mediocrity leads to a decade of mediocrity! MAKE IT HAPPEN!
 
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I'm neither one... but great coaches, coach great. They do it when they have 2 win teams and when they have 12 win teams. Every situation is different... for instance Saban inherited a discipline mess and NCAA sanctions. He ran several key contributors off. And iirc, most if not all of those coaches improved their teams' records from the previous year even though it wasn't as good as they'd eventually do.

Jones wasn't a good coach. He wasn't a good coach in year one when everyone was excusing him. He wasn't in year 3 when everyone was saying he'd done "great" to get to 9 wins in spite of underutilizing the talent he had. He wasn't in the last two years when the excuses were in vogue again. He won on Kelly's coattails. Nothing wrong with that... except that UT was stupid enough to hire him into a situation completely beyond his skill set.


All that said, UT has enough talent to win 7 or 8 games. Even with the changes and difficult schedule, six or even 7 wins is pretty reasonable if Pruitt is the "right guy". If he develops the talent, has teams that consistently show up and play at a high level, coaches games well, and competes at a level ABOVE the sum of this team's parts.... then I'll be happy with his first year.

No "moral wins" but it matters if they play well enough to NOT get blown off the field even against better opponents.
 
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Even if CJP is the wrong guy we can get 8 wins this year due to scheme change and better game plans.

QB play will make or break this year as long as injuries aren’t similar to these past two years.

CJP seems to be all about football and seems to know something about it. That’s a good combo.

A good game plan can keep a team in any game. Just ask App St and Umass.
 
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You make some very compelling points, but until I see a Pruitt team play, I’ll will not have an overly optimistic outlook. The reality is this - I haven’t seen a TN team overachieve in so long, I can’t even remember the last time I felt like we did. This years schedule is brutal, and we are implementing new schemes on both sides of the ball. But to me, it’s a change in mindset that needs the biggest improvement if we are to be successful this year. The team has to start actually believing they can compete; and with that, start stepping up to make the plays that win ball games. Too often, we faulter while the other guys step up. It’s been our biggest issue. I hope Pruitt is the solution to this, because if he can’t get these guys to believe, I easily see a 5-7 season. That is something we just cannot afford to happen in a landscape with UGA gearing up for what looks like a long run, and an Alabama already in a historic one.
 
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It's the offseason and I felt like writing something. So here are my reasons for optimism versus reasons for modest expectations for the 2018 season.


The Orange Colored Glasses View

Here's the orange-colored glasses argument for our why our Vols could be significantly better than the media thinks.

Severe underperformance in 2017. We may have been 4-8 last season, but it wasn't because we didn't have talent. Look at any of the recruiting services and it's clear we had top 10 or at least top 15 type talent. Based on talent alone, we should've gone 8-4 or 9-3. The previous staff severely underperformed given this. Once again, if we're going solely on talent level, our expected record is probably somewhere in the 8-4 to 9-3 range. If Pruitt & Co can harness the most out of these players, it's easy to envision us winning quite a few more than last season.

Nowhere to go but up on offense. On many statistical measures, we were among the worst 10 offenses in the NCAA last season. On a talent-adjusted basis, you can make the case we were "THE" worst in the entire NCAA. So it's virtually impossible for the 2018 offense to be any worse than the 2017 offense. Of course, the real question is 'how much improvement will we see', but I can guarantee that the offense will be better this year than last.

Close losses. In spite of a historically awful season, we weren't nearly as bad as the 4-8 record indicated. Many of those losses were close ones, including Florida (6 points), South Carolina (6 points), and Kentucky (3 points). Arguably, with a decent set of coaches, we would've won all 3 of those games last season and been 7-5.

We lose very few starters on offense and defense.
We lose Kahlil McKenzie, Kendal Vickers, and John Kelly. Not a lot of losses for an SEC team. The only area where we'll take a big hit is on Special Teams, where we lose Trevor Daniel, Aaron Medley, and Evan Berry. The good news is that Cimaglia, who replaces Medley, already has a year under his belt at Kicker, so that transition should be easier, but we'll have to see about Punter and Kick Returner.

JG was better than most think. When you consider that our O-line was a trainwreck last season and we had no solid 'possession receivers', JG's stats were pretty damn good. 62% completion rate, 7.2 ypa, 2 TD/INT ratio, and 129 rating. When compared to other Freshmen and Sophomore UT QBs of the past 15 years, only Erik Ainge and Josh Dobbs had better numbers, and even then JG was much better than Sophomore Erik Ainge (and arguably close to Freshman Ainge). JG is so much better than most people realize. He just needs an O-line to protect him and a real QB coach. Regardless of whether JG or Chryst wins the starting job, I think we'll see improvement at QB.

Wide Receivers could be "Most Improved" position group. WR was a position of weakness last season, particularly after we lost JJ. Marquez Callaway was extremely good at times and Brandon Johnson really came on at the very end of the season, but we did not have many reliable WRs beyond those two. Getting back Jennings will be big, but we also will hopefully have improved versions of Callaway and Johnson.

Pruitt working hard on O-line. Our O-line was a disaster last season, but it's clear Pruitt understands this is a problem, and has taken great efforts to shore up the line. Don't expect miracles, but adding Brandon Kennedy is pretty big. We also gain Jerome Carvin. We bring back superstar Trey Smith, as well as big potential contributors in Drew Richmond, Ryan Johnson, and Marcus Tatus. I still expect the O-line to be a weakness overall, but hopefully it goes from like a "2" (out of 10) to a "6".

Tyson Helton was really good at Western Kentucky. Turning around our disaster of an offense in one season will be a challenge, but Helton's offenses at Western Kentucky were *really* good. Mind you, it's not the SEC, but it was rare for WKU under Helton to score under 35 points in a game. The 2015 squad (Helton's 2nd season) went 12-2 and only had 2 games with under 35 points (@ LSU, @ Vanderbilt).

We have more talent than most realize on defense.
Our defense underperformed last season. Part of it was injuries. Part of it was the offense keeping the D on the field too long. Part of it may have been coaching as well (I'm now convinced that Brady Hoke is well past his prime at this point.) But talent wise, we're not at a shortage with guys like Nigel Warrior, Daniel Bituli, Kyle Phillips, and Darrell Taylor. If Shy Tuttle and DK Jr can come back anywhere close to 100%, this is not a bad defense personnel-wise. They just need better coaching, better S&C, and better game-planning.

Florida, West Virginia, and South Carolina are all winnable games. For whatever reason, the media seems to think we'll suck again this season, but Florida goes from 4-7 basement dweller to SEC East power in one season. I think Dan Mullen is a great coach who will get Florida "back" but Florida's roster is actually in worse shape than ours for the re-build and the game is in Knoxville. West Virginia will have a high-powered offense, but their defense will be beatable. They are also arguably one of the most overrated teams this pre-season. And while I think South Carolina could be the 2nd best team in the East, remember that this is a team that we were damn close to beating last year (and probably should've beaten).


The Modest Expectations View

There are legit reasons for optimism, but here are the reasons to 'pump the brakes' and brace for modest expectations.

Great coaches typically aren't "great" in Year 1. This is a surprisingly consistent theme in college football. Saban was 7-6 at Alabama. Pete Carroll was 6-6 at USC. Stoops was 7-5 at Oklahoma. Kirby Smart was 8-5 at Georgia. Mark Richt went 8-4. Gene Stallings was 7-5 at Bama. Dabo Swinney was 9-5 (and didn't hit his stride until his 4th full season). The list goes on and on. There are a few exceptions to the rule (Spurrier was 9-2 during his first season at Florida), but by and large, it's rare for great coaches to turn things around before Year 2 at the earliest.

Change in philosophy on both sides of the ball. Switching to a 3-4 from a 4-3 is a particularly difficult transition and one that rarely goes well in Year 1. While Pruitt wants to keeps some flexibility in the defensive scheme, he does seem committed to a 3-4 base in Year 1. It's difficult to tell how that transition will go since many guys will be playing new roles. Kongbo and Darrell Taylor move to OLB, for instance. Also losing Kahlil McKenzie may be a bigger blow than it seems, as he was ideally suited for the Nose Tackle position in the 3-4 much more so than a DT in a 4-3. Also a complete switch on offense, as well, but seems like it's difficult to go downhill from 'nearly worst in the country' anyway.

Tough schedule. I don't know why it is, but we always seem to draw our SEC West opponents when they are at the 'top of the cycle' so to speak. We never get the teams in their down years. This year is no different with an Auburn team that is a potential national title contender. Add Alabama and Georgia and there are already 3 games that are going to be extremely difficult to win. And while WV, Florida, SC, and Mizzou are all winnable, it's going to be tough to win all of those games.

O-line is still a weakness. I think the O-line will improve this season, but I don't see it going from 'awful' to 'elite' in 1 year. Assuming the turnaround goes well, we still probably end up with a middling O-line this season. Hopefully, better than last season, but we're still going to struggle against the likes of Bama and Georgia.

Offense may not improve enough. It's tough to go from 'last in the SEC' to 'great' in one season. While Helton was great at WKU, he took over a pretty good offense.

One injury away ... . We're still one injury away from being a much lesser team at many position groups including WR, O-line, and D-line.



The End

No predictions. I'm just going to enjoy the season. I think we'll be better than "the media" thinks, but tough to say where we'll end up. 6-6, 7-5, 8-4? Your guess is as good as mine. Hoping for a bowl game at least.

OK, maybe one prediction. We'll beat Florida. That's my only prediction for the season. :)

Can the season hurry up and start? 5 more weeks and football is back. Just gotta survive 5 weeks. That's it.
Love this topic..

Thought on O-line.
I wonder if these guys may have been in the wrong type of blocking scheme. To me they seemed to be more of a line up and knock'em back bunch. Not the "influence" type of scheme the offensive system favored ( the way I saw it). They just seemed to be better suited to knock people around rather than brushing people around. No question though, better conditioning and coaching are going to help.
 
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I'll tell ya what, the first four game stretch is critical. Beating one of WVU or UF would be big.

I think Tennessee beats a hugely overrated West Virginia team. West Virginia will do what they always do and go 7-5 in 2018(like they did in 2017) and wind up in the Texas or Liberty Bowls once again.
 
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Even if CJP is the wrong guy we can get 8 wins this year due to scheme change and better game plans.

QB play will make or break this year as long as injuries aren’t similar to these past two years.

CJP seems to be all about football and seems to know something about it. That’s a good combo.

A good game plan can keep a team in any game. Just ask App St and Umass.

As to your QB statement: Qb play makes or breaks an team any year. I don't care how great a team is, without at least good qb play they are not gonna be very good.
Much like taking and Indy car that wins races and insert an off the shelf motor into it. Not gonna win.
 
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I think Tennessee beats a hugely overrated West Virginia team. West Virginia will do what they always do and go 7-5 in 2018(like they did in 2017) and wind up in the Texas or Liberty Bowls once again.

I think it's doable. There's just so much unknowm for UT. Totally new systems. Who's the QB? First live game for the staff/players. Jitters? WV had no turnovet on their staff and has a starter at QB. Opening week is always kinda a crap shoot.
 
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You make some very compelling points, but until I see a Pruitt team play, I’ll will not have an overly optimistic outlook. The reality is this - I haven’t seen a TN team overachieve in so long, I can’t even remember the last time I felt like we did. This years schedule is brutal, and we are implementing new schemes on both sides of the ball. But to me, it’s a change in mindset that needs the biggest improvement if we are to be successful this year. The team has to start actually believing they can compete; and with that, start stepping up to make the plays that win ball games. Too often, we faulter while the other guys step up. It’s been our biggest issue. I hope Pruitt is the solution to this, because if he can’t get these guys to believe, I easily see a 5-7 season. That is something we just cannot afford to happen in a landscape with UGA gearing up for what looks like a long run, and an Alabama already in a historic one.
Good post..

Team to start believing....

I think they will have little or no trouble believing they can now win.
Over the last season I think they came to understand what was to me and most of VolNation the idea that we and other teams knew a play before it was run. When a defense has an idea what you are going to do before you do it, they can beat you to the punch nearly every time. It seemed to me this team got tired of trying to play from behind on nearly every down and just went through the motions.
I believe this is changing.
 
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i think that'a a pretty fair "state of the union" DG. no idea which way it's going to go.

but i'd add one thing to both sides of it...

first, on the negative side....We've been thru this before, heard how things are different, and the results never really change. why is this change going to be any different, coming off the worst season....ever. with the the spectacle that was our coaching search etc... we can't even beat Vandy and KY anymore, much less big games. we're in "i'll believe it when i see it" mode.

or, positive outlook......where is it written that we can't win a game, or two, we're not supposed to? teams have turn around years, and have upset victories every year. why can't that be us this year? while the schedule is hard, there are opportunities for that to happen against WVU, UF and Auburn. 3 games most everyone has us losing. why can't we win 1 or 2 as an upset? 1 neutral site to open the season where both teams come in w/no proven identity for this season, 1 home game against a conf rival that had as bad a season as we did, had a coaching change like we did and is at least on similar ground talent wise and has many of the same questions on the roster as us, and a big road game after a bye week against an opponent that will be playing it's 7th straight game. it COULD happen........
 
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Thanks for giving me something to read during the off season, Can't wait for labor day weekend, three days off and three days of college football. It is my favorite weekend of the year.
 
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We have not had any help from the coaching position for 15 years. Waiting and hoping that position will kick in soon. Its hard to win a game when you consistently lose at this position. Win the coaching battle every week and wins will follow, no worries.

I will disagree some with your calendar. Fulmer quit after the '98 season. The '99 team was supposedly the most talented team in the country and far better than the '98 NC team. I would say coaching has been seriously deficient for 18 years. That, despite Fulmer having a couple of modest bounce back seasons.
 
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Good read dude!


I see 5 wins as a maximum this season. Too much transition going on. New Coach, new offensive and defensive schemes. Thin at Linebacker, d.b's have been uncoached for the past couple of years, O.L. needs to jell as a unit and get qualify back ups. Schedule is hard. no one is confident in our q.b. play at this point.

Wins against UTEP, ETSU, Charlotte, Ky. & Vandy.

We miss the bowl game and in 2019 season, we go from 5 wins to 10 wins. A full year of practice. A full year of recruiting.....
2019 we will be in a major bowl game on New Years Day.
 
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We were awful on both lines. Improvement on both lines will go along way towards making us better team. The million dollar question is, was the awful play on the lines due to lack of SEC-caliber talent or poor development/S&C?

The answer is probably a lot of both, so if we can at least have better prepared linemen, who have also benefited from a better S&C program, we should at least be somewhat improved on both lines.I

That in itself won't be enough to beat teams like Bama, UGA, and Auburn, but it should keep us from losing to teams like UK and Vandy, and give us a good chance to beat teams like WV, UF, SC, and Mizzou this season.
 
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Modest Expectation,, Talent on 1st Team,, Not so much on 2nd. Hard to win in this Conference when injuries occur and your depth is suspect.
Learning New Systems on Offense and Defense takes time.. Its not like Vols are lining up against Grundy County and Tullahoma HS

So is Florida. Yes it does take time to learn a new system, but with good Coach's the time it takes isn't near as long as many think. Plus 30+ players weren't even here last year to have to unlearn the old system.

Our 2nd team depth is pretty good outside of the OLine. Plus it's hard to really know what we have with the coaching the guys got that were here under Butch. Plus based off recruiting rankings, our roster is top 12 in star ranking. Outside of Ala, Ga, Aub and maybe S.Carol, our sched is very manageable. Just based off last yr, the other 8 games, those teams were 35-62. 5 of the 8 had losing records and the other 3 didn't have more than 7 wins and that was with bowl games that all 3 each lost.

Based off the recruiting rankings alone only Ga, Ala and Aub have more talent top to bottom. Not saying we win the East or beat any of those 3 teams, but the other 9 games aren't for sure losses. 7-8 wins plus the chance to add another W in a bowl is very, very possible. 8-5 or 9-4 is very doable if we can stay healthy and all the Players buy in. I'm excited and can't wait! GBO
 
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