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KoachKrab127

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I have a problem with Spring practice and the way the NCAA handles it.

To me, 15 practices is not NEARLY enough to truly evaluate the talent you have. I don't mind having a limit on practices, but only 15?

I think teams should be allowed to practice 5 times a week year round (but no more than 20 hours a week, just like during the season). I mean, these guys are on a full scholarship year-round, not just during the season. A full scholarship to play football is like having a part-time job, in my opinion. And at part-time jobs, you work 15-20 hours a week.

Am I wrong about this? Allowing only 8 hours per week for conditioning during the offseason and not allowed to throw a football just seems completely ridiculous to me. When I was a swimmer in high school, we practiced 15 hours per week year round.

So, anyone have some sound reasoning for these limitations?
 
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their supposed to be amateur atheletes, not full time atheletes. students first, atheletes second.

doesn't mean i agree with that notion, but this is one way the NCAA can enforce what they say in regards to the student athelete. in their mind it's not the primary objective for these students to be the best football players as much as it is having time for being students firts.

because we all know that if there were no limitations, these coaches would work with them non stop. so i understand it.
 
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Unofficially, I think they work year around already (the contenders do, anyway). You can only scrimmage so much.
 
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True, they are students, but most want to go to the NFL someday. Still, my mom always said; Schoolwork comes before play. Gotta pass English.
 
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Lexvol said:
Unofficially, I think they work year around already (the contenders do, anyway). You can only scrimmage so much.
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yeah, i dont' think there's anything too voluntary about voluntary work outs in the off season.
 
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Agree with Jake. These are student athletes but good coaches find a way to get these kids to work out and unsupervised instruction year around. It's just not as intense as the "official" practices.
 
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jakez4ut said:
their supposed to be amateur atheletes, not full time atheletes. students first, atheletes second.

doesn't mean i agree with that notion, but this is one way the NCAA can enforce what they say in regards to the student athelete. in their mind it's not the primary objective for these students to be the best football players as much as it is having time for being students firts.

because we all know that if there were no limitations, these coaches would work with them non stop. so i understand it.
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I have no problem with setting limitations, I just think the limitatios they set are a joke. I had a part-time job when I was in college to pay for tuition, and I worked 15-20 hours a week. I just think that anyone with a full scholarship should commit the same amount of time year-round.
 
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KoachKrab127 said:
I have no problem with setting limitations, I just think the limitatios they set are a joke. I had a part-time job when I was in college to pay for tuition, and I worked 15-20 hours a week. I just think that anyone with a full scholarship should commit the same amount of time year-round.
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the players are comittting a ton of time to football, trust me. what you dont' see in film study or work out sessions, training etc....it's not like when they blow the horn to end practice they forget about football until the next practice. for what they are asked, they spend probably a good bit more time behind the scenes than they actually do on the practice field.
 
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KoachKrab127 said:
I have a problem with Spring practice and the way the NCAA handles it.

To me, 15 practices is not NEARLY enough to truly evaluate the talent you have. I don't mind having a limit on practices, but only 15?

I think teams should be allowed to practice 5 times a week year round (but no more than 20 hours a week, just like during the season). I mean, these guys are on a full scholarship year-round, not just during the season. A full scholarship to play football is like having a part-time job, in my opinion. And at part-time jobs, you work 15-20 hours a week.

Am I wrong about this? Allowing only 8 hours per week for conditioning during the offseason and not allowed to throw a football just seems completely ridiculous to me. When I was a swimmer in high school, we practiced 15 hours per week year round.

So, anyone have some sound reasoning for these limitations?
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You should write a strongly worded letter to Myles Brand.
 
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jakez4ut said:
the players are comittting a ton of time to football, trust me. what you dont' see in film study or work out sessions, training etc....it's not like when they blow the horn to end practice they forget about football until the next practice. for what they are asked, they spend probably a good bit more time behind the scenes than they actually do on the practice field.
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You are exactly right Jake. Being on the practice field is probably minimal to the amount of time these kids put in the weight room and film room. Then you have meetings and I'm sure a lot of these guys do unsupervised workouts. I can't imagine what it would be like at some colleges if the NCAA didn't put restrictions on the amount of practices. It would get completely out of control.
 
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Only 15 practices but keep in mind they are filmed and from those 15 practices you can break it down and glean a ton of info.
 
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trust me its already year round, its just not practice practice. you still have conditioning, individual workouts, weight lifting, etc. after the school year is over with the kids are exhausted tired of all the workouts and need a little break before starting it all over.
 
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KoachKrab127 said:
I have a problem with Spring practice and the way the NCAA handles it.

To me, 15 practices is not NEARLY enough to truly evaluate the talent you have. I don't mind having a limit on practices, but only 15?

I think teams should be allowed to practice 5 times a week year round (but no more than 20 hours a week, just like during the season). I mean, these guys are on a full scholarship year-round, not just during the season. A full scholarship to play football is like having a part-time job, in my opinion. And at part-time jobs, you work 15-20 hours a week.

Am I wrong about this? Allowing only 8 hours per week for conditioning during the offseason and not allowed to throw a football just seems completely ridiculous to me. When I was a swimmer in high school, we practiced 15 hours per week year round.

So, anyone have some sound reasoning for these limitations?
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No you didn't. Not through the fall and spring, when you were still in school. Maybe in the summer you did, but even the aquatics programs that come to swim at the pool I work at don't practice 15 hrs a wk during the school year, and they aren't even associated with the schools.
 
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the.one.the.only said:
No you didn't. Not through the fall and spring, when you were still in school. Maybe in the summer you did, but even the aquatics programs that come to swim at the pool I work at don't practice 15 hrs a wk during the school year, and they aren't even associated with the schools.
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Um...yes...we did. 6pm-8pm Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. 5:30am-7:00am on Tuesday and Thursday, then on Tuesday and Thursday nights from 5:30pm-7:00pm we'd lift weights and do a sprint set. And on Saturday, 7:30am-9:30am we'd swim and then lift weights from 9:30am-10:30am. That comes out to 15 hours per week. And it was year-round. That schedule never changed.

We had a period in March where we had 2 weeks off, but that was it.
 
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KoachKrab127 said:
Um...yes...we did. 6pm-8pm Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. 5:30am-7:00am on Tuesday and Thursday, then on Tuesday and Thursday nights from 5:30pm-7:00pm we'd lift weights and do a sprint set. And on Saturday, 7:30am-9:30am we'd swim and then lift weights from 9:30am-10:30am. That comes out to 15 hours per week. And it was year-round. That schedule never changed.

We had a period in March where we had 2 weeks off, but that was it.
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EDIT: wait I didn't really read that whole thing. That's exactly what the teams do around here. Lifting weights isn't part of practice time, yall swim 2 hrs a day just like every other swim program... So basically you're wrong, I'm right. Good day.
 
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if you want to add lifting weights and other activites into "practice time" then college basketball players "practice" all the time. for ex. off season: weights were 5 days a week. one hour each day. conditioning 3 days a week for 30 mins. Individuals were twice a wk one hour each session. Then mandatory pickup ball where "coach" isn't suppose to be there but pops his head in here and there was for 2 hours 3 times a wk, and losing teams run afterwards. off season Saturdays were the only days that were off days.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
if you want to add lifting weights and other activites into "practice time" then college basketball players "practice" all the time. for ex. off season: weights were 5 days a week. one hour each day. conditioning 3 days a week for 30 mins. Individuals were twice a wk one hour each session. Then mandatory pickup ball where "coach" isn't suppose to be there but pops his head in here and there was for 2 hours 3 times a wk, and losing teams run afterwards. off season Saturdays were the only days that were off days.
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Yeah, I guess they really do get those 15 hours/week in during the offseason. I guess I just need to think more broadly about all the stuff these guys do, because practice is separate from conditioning and film. I guess that since in swimming, the only thing you do is swim...there's no reason to have film sessions or separate conditioning...only 3 practices a week seems like nothing, but in reality it's alot more than what I was thinking.
 
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KoachKrab127 said:
I have a problem with Spring practice and the way the NCAA handles it.

To me, 15 practices is not NEARLY enough to truly evaluate the talent you have. I don't mind having a limit on practices, but only 15?

I think teams should be allowed to practice 5 times a week year round (but no more than 20 hours a week, just like during the season). I mean, these guys are on a full scholarship year-round, not just during the season. A full scholarship to play football is like having a part-time job, in my opinion. And at part-time jobs, you work 15-20 hours a week.

Am I wrong about this? Allowing only 8 hours per week for conditioning during the offseason and not allowed to throw a football just seems completely ridiculous to me. When I was a swimmer in high school, we practiced 15 hours per week year round.

So, anyone have some sound reasoning for these limitations?
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if they practiced year-round, i would hate to see the injury list.
 
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Some food for thought:

15 practices is plenty...You have to remeber football si a contact sport. Players need to recover afterwards.

then there is film, meetings, weights, treatment before and after practise for those who are banged up.

also for an established coaching staff, spring only purpose is to see 2nd and 3rd string improve. It is more critical now for the new coaches of course.

BTW Football is year around...Winter weights, Spring ball, summer workouts, fall games.

I have done it recently, it is no joke.
 
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The NCAA HAS to limit it, or they would never get a break
 
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Uzzi91 said:
Some food for thought:

15 practices is plenty...You have to remeber football si a contact sport. Players need to recover afterwards.

then there is film, meetings, weights, treatment before and after practise for those who are banged up.

also for an established coaching staff, spring only purpose is to see 2nd and 3rd string improve. It is more critical now for the new coaches of course.

BTW Football is year around...Winter weights, Spring ball, summer workouts, fall games.

I have done it recently, it is no joke.
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Those are good points. I would imagine you could get extremely sore from a 2 hour full contact practice.

I guess it's kinda like lifting weights. You aren't supposed to lift weights everyday, but instead, every OTHER day. I can see how football practice is the same way.
 
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You've obviously never played football if you think that practicing 5 days a week year around is even possible without having the whole team hurt and broken down by the time the fall starts, plus the stuff done off the field is equally important like lifting, learning and meetings, running, and making sure your guys are passing class. Football is already year around I assure you those guys would tell you that. If I had a choice of having my guys focus on class, lift and run during the off season or be practicing the whole time then I would much rather have them lifting and doing the normal off season program.
 
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dan4vols said:
Only 15 practices but keep in mind they are filmed and from those 15 practices you can break it down and glean a ton of info.
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That's why Kiffin was so brilliant as to spread out the practices and scrimmages over more than a month's time (including the O&W game). Look at the practice schedule, Tues, Thurs, and Saturdays only. It gives the staff ample time to examine the prior practice's film and to develop corrective measures for the next. Fulmer would've burned up all of the alloted practices in three weeks.
 
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