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The Vols 5 losses are to teams currently rank #'s 1,6,7,8, and 15 in the latest BCS poll. Alabama(1) and Florida(7) were home losses, the other 3 were road losses.

Not sure if I really should have expected a team that did not go to a bowl last season, be able to beat those teams this season....:popcorn:
 
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volswin08 said:
The Vols 5 losses are to teams currently rank #'s 1,6,7,8, and 15 in the latest BCS poll. Alabama(1) and Florida(7) were home losses, the other 3 were road losses.

Not sure if I really should have expected a team that did not go to a bowl last season, be able to beat those teams this season....:popcorn:
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The biggest problems are/were:

-There is a significant percentage that have been opposed to Dooley since day 1. If UT won the SEC and lost in the BCS NC game to go 13-1, they would be all over him for not "winning the big one."
-The NC State game this year was a good win. It also created unrealistic expectations for the rest of the season. When those unrealistic expectations reverted to reality, the disappointments were manifest into more hate and discontent.
-The recruiting list is not where it should be. A lot of that is due to the heat on the seat. The uncertainty of the situation makes recruiting difficult.
-No other team in college football has faced the gauntlet of a schedule that UT has faced. It won't get easier in 2013 so the team has to improve a lot.
 
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volswin08 said:
The Vols 5 losses are to teams currently rank #'s 1,6,7,8, and 15 in the latest BCS poll. Alabama(1) and Florida(7) were home losses, the other 3 were road losses.

Not sure if I really should have expected a team that did not go to a bowl last season, be able to beat those teams this season....:popcorn:
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How dare you bring common sense to this board. :eek:lol:

Don't you know that after Dooley's 2 recruiting classes (I know some will argue 3 recruiting classes), with a program that faced a tsunami of attrition, should be resurrected to it's fullest and beating top 10 teams...???

I said it then and I'll say it now. It will take 4 to 5 years before a verdict is in. Fire Dooley now, and it will take 5 to 10 years MORE as UT will teeter on the edge of football purgatory.
 
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I think this thread is in the wrong forum......we do have a logic and common sense forum here right?? Let me know where it's at and I'll be sure to bookmark it for future reading. I have been a member here for years and read most every thread but only post when I feel its warranted unlike others hence the reason for the low amount of posts. Its hard to comment on stupidity so thank you for posting something that actually has some substance without misplaced emotion to it. :hi:
 
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If you don't want to play ranked teams, then you're in the wrong conference. Sure it's a tough schedule, but so is everyone else's in the conference. Too many excuses. Can't compare being 13-1 and losing the NC game to the seasons we have become accustomed to. That's an argument that we shouldn't be having, we are defeated in the conference.
 
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volswin08 said:
The Vols 5 losses are to teams currently rank #'s 1,6,7,8, and 15 in the latest BCS poll. Alabama(1) and Florida(7) were home losses, the other 3 were road losses.

Not sure if I really should have expected a team that did not go to a bowl last season, be able to beat those teams this season....:popcorn:
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I agree that the schedule has been brutal. Just arguing your point...if we had beaten a terrible Kentucky team last year we would have went bowling. If we had beaten Kentucky last year, then you agree that we should not lose to all these teams. Last year's Kentucky team, by the way, was forced to play a WR at QB for the first time in a game and still beat us.

The reason these teams are ranked this high is due in part because we didn't beat any of them. Miss State would probably not still be ranked if we beat them followed by getting smoked by Bama.

It's not so much this season for me as it is the continuous comedy of errors and bad luck that has been the trademark of the Dooley era. How many 0-5 starts is too many for those that still support Dooley? Surely there is a limit for most of you. We may just have a difference of opinion about this number. For me, it was 3 years. For you, it may be 4, 5, or infinity. Dooley is the one that bragged that the other SEC schools won't have UT to kick around anymore.
 
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SmartVolFan said:
Fire Dooley now, and it will take 5 to 10 years MORE as UT will teeter on the edge of football purgatory.
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You seem so certain about something you can't possibly know the answer to.

Just for fun, let's just suppose that Tennessee hired Nick Saban. Still think it will take 5 to 10 more years? Doubt it.
 
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volswin08 said:
The Vols 5 losses are to teams currently rank #'s 1,6,7,8, and 15 in the latest BCS poll. Alabama(1) and Florida(7) were home losses, the other 3 were road losses.

Not sure if I really should have expected a team that did not go to a bowl last season, be able to beat those teams this season....:popcorn:
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What I think you are overlooking, and I have mentioned this in another thread, is WHO CARES ABOUT THAT? WE USED TO BE PART OF SOMEONE ELSE'S TOUGH SCHEDULE. Now we are the cupcake between tough games
 
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865Alumni said:
If you don't want to play ranked teams, then you're in the wrong conference. Sure it's a tough schedule, but so is everyone else's in the conference. Too many excuses. Can't compare being 13-1 and losing the NC game to the seasons we have become accustomed to. That's an argument that we shouldn't be having, we are defeated in the conference.
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Nope. Look at Tennessee's SEC schedule. Florida Georgia and Bama in the first four league games every year. Sometimes you get an LSU in there like Dooley was so blessed in his first two years. Then he swapped them for a MSU team on a historic run. No other league teams schedule comes close. Certainly not every year. Every team has a rotating schedule and does have tough stretches, but that is the norm for us. Georgia avoids LSU. Florida avoids Bama. We have the worst slate of them all. It must be a Georgia grad working int the scheduling office.
 
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volswin08 said:
The Vols 5 losses are to teams currently rank #'s 1,6,7,8, and 15 in the latest BCS poll. Alabama(1) and Florida(7) were home losses, the other 3 were road losses.

Not sure if I really should have expected a team that did not go to a bowl last season, be able to beat those teams this season....:popcorn:
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And remember the only reason these teams are not ranked even higher is because they are in the same conference and their only loss is to each other. The number one team in any other conference could play our schedule and be very average looking with the possible exception of Oregon. Not saying it gives UT a pass as it is what it is.
 
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I think most people on here are young and post based mostly on emotions and the win/loss record.

They never use analytical logic or look at the entire body of work of CDD and his staff.

No matter how many times many of us attempt to teach them things or to show examples of real progress those people choose to ignore everything and just want to hold on to their hate for CDD.

Also remember that most on here have been OVERexpecting ever since early last Summer and have said many times that our Vols are a 9 or 10 Win team this season and they were simply wrong about that just as thery've been wrong about many things but their ego refuses to allow them to ever admit they were wrong about anything.

They have overhyped the amount of talent we have on our roster.

They never consider that we might have 18 to 20 future NFL players on our roster but that all the top SEC teams have 40 or 50 or more future NFL players on their roster.

They never consider that many of our future NFL players are only Sophs and Freshmen that still do NOT have much real game knowledge and experience.

They totally discount how important real experience is and that having a solid Senior class for knowledge, experience and solid leadership really is to hold everyone accountable and to be on the field keeping their spirits and motivation high when the going is at its toughest points.

No matter how many times we try to teach them that it takes 2 years to learn everything about the 3-4 defence and get it down pat, even in the NFL, they choose to ignore everything except what they choose to see and believe.

I do NOT support any specific coach...I support my Vols football program no matter what but I do see progress being made in several areas and I see good coaches that know what they're doing and keep working hard to rebuild our program 1 positive step at a time so making a coaching change right now just might be the biggest mistake we could make and could set our program back another 5 to 10 years.

The simple fact is that in every loss we've had this season, except for Bama, we were only 3 to 5 PLAYS away from a Win...If those small number of plays had gone differently we could be here today as a 1 loss team and ranked in the top 10 nationally and on a confident roll to win out this season and win a big bowl game too.

I think we're much closer than most people realise and I'm actually amazed that CDD and his staff have gotten us this far much faster than I thought they could.

If we were already in our 2nd year of our 3-4 D I think we would be a 1 or 2 loss team at the worst because it has been our D and not our running game that's hurt us this season.

CDD promised to fix our running game after last season and he DID that better than I expected so I expect that this offseason he'll focus on getting our defence fixed and then next season our Vols could be a VERY tough team to beat.

I'll support whatever AD Hart decides to do but firing CDD and this staff could turn out to be a huge mistake.

I'm too old to wait another 10 years to get to a SEC CHampionship game or a National Championship game so I want lots of Wins as fast as we can get them but I also know what it takes and how long it takes to totally rebuild a college football program when we were as bad as we were when CDD took the job that nobody else would take.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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PimpVol said:
Nope. Look at Tennessee's SEC schedule. Florida Georgia and Bama in the first four league games every year. Sometimes you get an LSU in there like Dooley was so blessed in his first two years. Then he swapped them for a MSU team on a historic run. No other league teams schedule comes close. Certainly not every year. Every team has a rotating schedule and does have tough stretches, but that is the norm for us. Georgia avoids LSU. Florida avoids Bama. We have the worst slate of them all. It must be a Georgia grad working int the scheduling office.
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It's been that way for years. The only difference is we used to win a conference game.
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
...I'm too old to wait another 10 years to get to a SEC CHampionship game or a National Championship game so I want lots of Wins as fast as we can get them but I also know what it takes and how long it takes to totally rebuild a college football program when we were as bad as we were when CDD took the job that nobody else would take...
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I'm a silverback, too. I have learned that patience can often be rewarded while impatience is punished. It takes 40 or so good football players to make a team. There aren't a dozen juniors and seniors that qualify. There will be. When that happens, the sophs and freshmen can be groomed to continue a winning tradition instead of being fed to the lions before their time. Good post.
 
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Terrible thread.

We will play those teams every year and it should never be our accepted practice to expect to lose to them each year. Regardless of what we were the year before, UT has always won some of those games even in their worst years.

If you expect to lose, you will.
 
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865Alumni said:
It's been that way for years. The only difference is we used to win a conference game.
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Only they weren't all in the top 7 like they are right now. And that is NOT how it used to be. It won't be a problem when we have our roster built up to par. Oue next coach will be fortunate to not deal with what Dooley has. There are actual SEC players on the team now. Not the case @ the end of 2009.
 
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