Once upon a time Tennessee was know for its NFL ready QBs.

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Manning Shuler now it’s kinda gravitated towards run oriented great college QBs Hooker Dobbs but the run oriented college qb less passer gone since Cutcliffe left. Then he taught Eli at Ole Miss and guy at Duke whose name escapes me. Just like now at Tennessee we have chosen a running passing college qb oriented qb over a pure passer imo. .
 
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volfan2024 said:
Manning Shuler now it’s kinda gravitated towards run oriented great college QBs Hooker Dobbs but the run oriented college qb less passer gone since Cutcliffe left. Then he taught Eli at Ole Miss and guy at Duke whose name escapes me. Just like now at Tennessee we have chosen a running passing college qb oriented qb over a pure passer imo. .
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So, two? Umkay. I could give two ***** about NFL readiness. Win.
 
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ahem

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Shuler MIGHT have become NFL ready with a full first training camp. His agent advised him to hold out and he missed 13 days worth of reps and installs. When he did start playing he threw a bunch of picks and fumbled under pressure. The fans soured on him. He got injured (shoulder) in year 2 and he never recovered. I guess the NFL is littered with great college QBs that couldn’t cut it at that level. Knowing the secret sauce is almost a coin flip.
 
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volfan2024 said:
Manning Shuler now it’s kinda gravitated towards run oriented great college QBs Hooker Dobbs but the run oriented college qb less passer gone since Cutcliffe left. Then he taught Eli at Ole Miss and guy at Duke whose name escapes me. Just like now at Tennessee we have chosen a running passing college qb oriented qb over a pure passer imo. .
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Buddy for the 10th time- Faizon is a pass first QB that can also run. He's a better passer and decision maker than George. At least in fall camp and spring camp he was.

Shuler wasn't some pure passer and Tennessee had literally ONE QB that was NFL ready. Stop with these old stereotypes man.
 
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volfan2024 said:
Manning Shuler now it’s kinda gravitated towards run oriented great college QBs Hooker Dobbs but the run oriented college qb less passer gone since Cutcliffe left. Then he taught Eli at Ole Miss and guy at Duke whose name escapes me. Just like now at Tennessee we have chosen a running passing college qb oriented qb over a pure passer imo. .
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Manning is the only one. Shuler was a bust
 
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hbvol1982 said:
Shuler MIGHT have become NFL ready with a full training camp. His agent advised him to hold out and he missed reps and installs. He arrived late and then got injured (shoulder) in year 2 and he never recovered. The fan base in DC soured on him during the hold out because it was uncommon for that franchise.
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He just wasn't accurate with the football.
 
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Shuler only started 2 years at Tennessee and was not NFL ready. He desperately needed a third year in the SEC and might have led the Vols to a national championship. He was that good as a college quarterback.

Then Jerry Colquitt gets hurt in the season opener. They could have won the SEC with Jerry. Then 2 hall of famers- Todd Helton and Peyton split time with Brandon Stewart and Helton gets hurt. The last man standing was skinny Peyton Manning and he got better every minute of every day.

Heath Shuler was a player you had to see to appreciate- stats don’t reveal what an absolute problem he was for opposing defenses.
 
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festor82 said:
I am not sure many schools are producing NFL ready QB's at the moment.
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The Golden Age of the NFL QB is over. No is producing a Marino or Manning these days - guys who accumulated passing yards like no one before them. The NFL hamstrung the defensive side of the game and the QB’s still aren’t even matching the men who retired before their time.



An NFL ready QB doesn’t even seem to be present every draft class now. Maybe too many different offenses in college or possibly the defenses in college just aren’t challenging enough to separate the lazy QB’s from the workers.
 
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adam.vol said:
The Golden Age of the NFL QB is over. No is producing a Marino or Manning these days - guys who accumulated passing yards like no one before them. The NFL hamstrung the defensive side of the game and the QB’s still aren’t even matching the men who retired before their time.



An NFL ready QB doesn’t even seem to be present every draft class now. Maybe too many different offenses in college or possibly the defenses in college just aren’t challenging enough to separate the lazy QB’s from the workers.
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I think it has more to do more with the RPO, read option used in college offenses. Not enough of that has translated to the NFL for multiple reasons. 1) you can't let your QB get hit that often, 2) the narrower hashes don't allow as much space on the wide side of the field 3) increased defensive talent on the field, 4) QB's aren't throwing consistently from the pocket with timing, 5) QB's aren't aren't having to read the whole field.

To succeed in the NFL you have to be able to throw on time from the pocket. This appears to be a difficult thing to consistently develop at the NFL level though. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts are 3 that come to mind. Bo Nix seems to be on that path. The pure pocket passer coming out of college was mainly Joe Burrow and CJ Strout. There are some hybrids that have had success Mahomes and Herbert, I know Mahomes sat a full year. Jayden Daniel's is another and and Caleb Williams are two that have if they can do it for multiple years as well as Strout.
 
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Lot of uninformed analysis about Shuler in this thread. I don't know how many who are commenting actually remember his playing days. Yes, he hurt himself by entering the draft early and by sitting out during contract negotiations. Be he also played behind a terrible offensive line with the Redskins. He definitely had the talent, but was ultimately undone by injuries. Just another story of what could have been.
 
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knox73 said:
Shuler only started 2 years at Tennessee and was not NFL ready. He desperately needed a third year in the SEC and might have led the Vols to a national championship. He was that good as a college quarterback.

Then Jerry Colquitt gets hurt in the season opener. They could have won the SEC with Jerry. Then 2 hall of famers- Todd Helton and Peyton split time with Brandon Stewart and Helton gets hurt. The last man standing was skinny Peyton Manning and he got better every minute of every day.

Heath Shuler was a player you had to see to appreciate- stats don’t reveal what an absolute problem he was for opposing defenses.
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Helton actually took the job in the second half of the UCLA game. He then led the Vols to a big victory in Athens. Manning came in when Helton got hurt early in the Miss St game and never looked back
 
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