Oklahoma SEC Dominance

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Oklahoma’s dominance IMO will be brought to a screeching halt once they join the SEC and play the level of caliber of teams we see every week (ok, minus Vandy and a few others). We played something like the 2nd most difficult schedule (correct me if I’m off a few). Play Bama, Georgia and Florida every year! The SEC overall has been a brutal conference to reach those 10+ win per season milestones. OU will be competitive, but going and winning the conference championships at the rate they have been isn’t likely to happen. Thoughts on agree or disagree?
 
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The only reason they are where they are today is because they've been able to recruit nationally. That will come to a screeching halt I suspect when they find themselves averaging 8 wins. Then they'll have to rely on local talent... and they'll be the next Nebraska.
 
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It all depends on who they get as a head coach. Last year OU beat UF so bad they never really recovered. Only SEC teams this current OU team would really be afraid of is UGA and Bama. If we swapped places with OU this year they would probably have gone 10-2 while we would have gone 7-5 or 8-4.
 
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OU has always had a recruiting line into Texas that was fueled in part by a schedule loaded with teams that should never beat them. For decades, OU and Texas fought it out for the best players in Texas. TAM got the leftovers. Everyone else fought for whatever fell off the table. TAM is now a player and more schools are raiding Texas for talent. Also, Texas HS talent dominance has faded some as play improved in other states.

I think they have to make a great hire or else could fall hard.
 
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Oklahoma dominance my ear...They will come in here and get their butts kicked like most teams in the SEC do..The road they are taking is filled with razor blades and any one of those SEC demons can jump up and bite your head off at any second...They will be taught to know their role as will Texas.
 
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Texas was dumb to join. OU is a program that will compete at times. The SEC is really a minefield.. Everyone has money. Everyone has a decent fanbase outside of Vandy's 5 fans. It was the money and the exposure that was the draw. Those teams already recruit well so minimal impact there except they may get some guys out of places they normally didn't.. Money talks and the SEC has more of it.
 
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Riley going to USC has more to do with how he sees things shaking out vs being scared. He recruits pretty well in California (had a five star QB recruit) and won’t have any regional competition for top recruits like he has here…he can build a more talented roster at USC than what he has currently at OU IMO. Of course he’s gonna have to deal with the west coast culture that just doesn’t value college football as we do but USC has a rich history and plenty of alumni that want the program to be a na power again.

And of course this move gives him a reset on that national title that he is expected to bring home. He can go to USC and never do much and still coach 4 years…I think OU was getting tired of losing to SEC schools in the playoffs every year - you can only say next year for so long.
 
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Riley bravely turned his tail and fled!

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Tigervol said:
Oklahoma’s dominance IMO will be brought to a screeching halt once they join the SEC and play the level of caliber of teams we see every week (ok, minus Vandy and a few others). We played something like the 2nd most difficult schedule (correct me if I’m off a few). Play Bama, Georgia and Florida every year! The SEC overall has been a brutal conference to reach those 10+ win per season milestones. OU will be competitive, but going and winning the conference championships at the rate they have been isn’t likely to happen. Thoughts on agree or disagree?
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In everything I've seen, UT's schedule is in the mid to upper 20's.
 
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Oklahoma was in a good position to make a splash in the SEC but with this recent turn of events, they will really struggle.

I thought that in the long run, Texas would come out like a bandit. They basically dump Baylor, TCU, and Texas Tech as in-state Power 5 opponents (no one will take those programs seriously anymore) and now only have to compete with Aggies. It may take some time and the right coach but Texas could become a player in the SEC.
 
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Cartervol said:
Texas was dumb to join. OU is a program that will compete at times. The SEC is really a minefield.. Everyone has money. Everyone has a decent fanbase outside of Vandy's 5 fans. It was the money and the exposure that was the draw. Those teams already recruit well so minimal impact there except they may get some guys out of places they normally didn't.. Money talks and the SEC has more of it.
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I feel like it’s the opposite. It’ll help Texas and hurt Oklahoma, IMO.
 
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OU better be taking this next coaching hire as serious as a heart attack. We are a prime example of how quickly you end up at the back of the pack if you step out of line for just a second. They have a big passionate fanbase like ours, but they are conditioned to think they should win 10 games every season from years of facing sub par competition. They are in for a rude awakening when they start playing sec teams week in and week out. Even the mid tier or lowly sec teams like arky, ole miss, miss state, ky, uscjr can beat you when they have competent coaching. The days of them just blowing the majority of their conference opponents is over. I won't be surprised when they fire their coach after a couple seasons in the SEC because the fan base has ridiculous expectations. It could send them into the kind of tail spin we've been in.
 
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Southern_Accent said:
OU better be taking this next coaching hire as serious as a heart attack. We are a prime example of how quickly you end up at the back of the pack if you step out of line for just a second. They have a big passionate fanbase like ours, but they are conditioned to think they should win 10 games every season from years of facing sub par competition. They are in for a rude awakening when they start playing sec teams week in and week out. Even the mid tier or lowly sec teams like arky, ole miss, miss state, ky, uscjr can beat you when they have competent coaching. The days of them just blowing the majority of their conference opponents is over. I won't be surprised when they fire their coach after a couple seasons in the SEC because the fan base has ridiculous expectations. It could send them into the kind of tail spin we've been in.
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Should of stayed where they were if that's the case. The reality is, the SEC from top to bottom is by far the best conference and they'll find that out real quick.
 
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Cartervol said:
They're both blue bloods. May benefit them, may not. The competition level is about to step up a level for both though. Big 12 isn't the SEC.
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People said the same thing about Missouri and Texas A&M. Aggies came in and won 10 games plus beat Alabama in year 1 while Missouri won the SEC East 2x.
 
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volfan_28 said:
I feel like it’s the opposite. It’ll help Texas and hurt Oklahoma, IMO.
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Yea I’m with you on this one.

Texas hasn’t been extremely good to elite in 12 years.

There not coming to the SEC to become elite…….their coming for $$ and more recognition (because their no longer very good). They will simply try to become decent within the SEC……….they know this and I guess their Ok with it.

I think Texas can certainly become “decent” in the SEC (at some point).

However OK isn’t coming to the SEC to win a conference title every year……….those days will be OVER. They may also find themselves needing years to become a “good” team within the SEC.

Definitely hurt Oklahoma………not seeing much which will hurt Texas……they have been mostly a 5 to 9 win team for over over a decade now. Sure they could take a dip from even that for a couple years (I don’t know); however I’m sure they’ll get back to winning 6 to 8 games most years and maybe the occasional 9+ every now and then.
 
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volbound1700 said:
People said the same thing about Missouri and Texas A&M. Aggies came in and won 10 games plus beat Alabama in year 1 while Missouri won the SEC East 2x.
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Missouri is about where they should be now. I'm not saying they can't compete but you'd be a fool if you didn't think this isn't a step up from where they're at now.
 
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Southern_Accent said:
A&M happened to have a generational qb and Missouri faced the worst Sec east they will ever see.
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Is the SEC any good right now? Only 3 teams in the top 15 this year and tons of OOC losses like UCLA beating LSU and Penn State beating Auburn. I think Oklahoma would have at least been 9-3 this year in the SEC. The only teams that are arguably better than Oklahoma are Alabama and Georgia.
 
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