Okay...so who is the better coach....

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Meyer or Spurrier? And before you answer think of this....Spurrier has done next to nothing since he left Florida and Meyer has won everywhere he has gone.

It seems to me that Spurrier had a good scheme that was only truly effective with the kind of athletes that go to UF. On the other hand Meyer wins everywhere he goes.

So is it safe to say that Spurrier's success was a by-product of the highschool talent in Florida whereas Meyer's success is more about great coaching that is now substatiated with great athletes?
 
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blamie said:
So is it safe to say that Spurrier's success was a by-product of the highschool talent in Florida whereas Meyer's success is more about great coaching that is now substatiated with great athletes?
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did you not know that Spurrier won an ACC title at Duke? Regardless of the weakness in the ACC at the time, that's unbelievable.
 
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Spurrier. He not only built Florida into the program it is today, he won at Duke and has beat UT and Georgia while at USCe.


It's really not even close.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Did Florida under Meyer move OUT of Florida?
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Point taken...but Meyer has the advantage of a proven track record at other schools with far less talent. Spurrier hasn't won anything since he eft the talent of Florida.

Before we're quick to say Spurrier we should look at what he has done other than at the talent hot bed that is the University of Florida
 
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Spurrier is probably either the best coach in the country or the 2nd best, too soon to talk about Meyer imo
 
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Uhhh, Spurrier won at Duke - an ACC title.

And he's the kind of coach who takes a few years to build a team. At Florida, any competent coach can come in and win. Seriously.

At South Carolina, it's a paced growth.
 
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blamie said:
Meyer or Spurrier? And before you answer think of this....Spurrier has done next to nothing since he left Florida and Meyer has won everywhere he has gone.
It seems to me that Spurrier had a good scheme that was only truly effective with the kind of athletes that go to UF. On the other hand Meyer wins everywhere he goes.

So is it safe to say that Spurrier's success was a by-product of the highschool talent in Florida whereas Meyer's success is more about great coaching that is now substatiated with great athletes?
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hmmm meyer didn't coach in the nfl, and meyer didn't have to coach at that crap hole of an SEC school called SC. spurrier is way better coach than meyer. that's not a very bright assumption you have there
 
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if you don't think spurrier is turning USCe into something, don't watch the game this year.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
hmmm meyer didn't coach in the nfl, and meyer didn't have to coach at that crap hole of an SEC school called SC. spurrier is way better coach than meyer. that's not a very bright assumption you have there
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Assumption? Where is the assumption?

Meyer has taken two nobody teams and turned them into winners (Bowling Green and Utah) and has taken a once powerhouse underachiever and turned them back into a poewrhouse.

Name one siginificant thing Spurrier has won since he has left Florida.
 
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blamie said:
Assumption? Where is the assumption?

Meyer has taken two nobody teams and turned them into winners (Bowling Green and Utah) and has taken a once powerhouse underachiever and turned them back into a poewrhouse.

Name one siginificant thing Spurrier has won since he has left Florida.
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Why remove Spurrier's experience at UF but include Meyer's? Also, who built the powerhouse that Meyer took over?
 
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blamie said:
Assumption? Where is the assumption?

Meyer has taken two nobody teams and turned them into winners (Bowling Green and Utah) and has taken a once powerhouse underachiever and turned them back into a poewrhouse.

Name one siginificant thing Spurrier has won since he has left Florida.
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You didn't ask "Who is the better coach Meyer or Spurrier post 2001."

Like I said (which you obviously didn't read) - any competent coach can walk into Florida (now) and win. Not the same at USCe. In 2009, you'll agree with us, because USCe will have 1 or 2 East titles, with an SEC Title
 
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blamie said:
Point taken...but Meyer has the advantage of a proven track record at other schools with far less talent. Spurrier hasn't won anything since he eft the talent of Florida.
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he was also playing against other schools with similar talent. Spurrier was consistently coaching at schools with far superior talent - and winning. He's doing that now at SC.
 
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Spurrier has definitely turned USCe into a contender for the east (and pretty darn fast), and that's saying a lot considering the state of the program when Lou Holtz left.
 
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blamie said:
Assumption? Where is the assumption?

Meyer has taken two nobody teams and turned them into winners (Bowling Green and Utah) and has taken a once powerhouse underachiever and turned them back into a poewrhouse.

Name one siginificant thing Spurrier has won since he has left Florida.
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Before I go any further I want to make it clear that I'm not a fan of Meyer and I'm not going to jump on his bandwagon and start cheering for him or anything like that.

But I bring this up because I was one of his biggest detractors when he went to UF from Utah. I said his scheme would never work in the SEC. After watching and reading about them for their first 3 games I am convinced they will score at will on anyone except maybe LSU.

It's not so far fetched to admit that Meyer just might be an excellent coach and his system is legit and not something that only works in the MAC.
 
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Spurrier has the edge, but really, at this point, it's 6 and one half dozen or the other in my book.

UM has BCS appearance while at Utah, conf. titles at all three schools he coached at, and a national title in year 2 at FL.

FL isn't exactly a tough place to show that kind of improvement, but he also did it with personnel that wasn't necessarily "his choice". he got them to buy in and won it all. impressive.

however, SOS has 6 SEC titles, and a NT, and as already has been stated, an ACC title at Duke.

and by all accounts, has SC going in the right direction.

he wins the East at SC, and it's not even close.

i give it to SOS right now, and he'd have to really do something stupid to lose it.
 
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blamie said:
Before I go any further I want to make it clear that I'm not a fan of Meyer and I'm not going to jump on his bandwagon and start cheering for him or anything like that.

But I bring this up because I was one of his biggest detractors when he went to UF from Utah. I said his scheme would never work in the SEC. After watching and reading about them for their first 3 games I am convinced they will score at will on anyone except maybe LSU.

It's not so far fetched to admit that Meyer just might be an excellent coach and his system is legit and not something that only works in the MAC.
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great coaches aren't great because of scheme. they're great because they get their players to play at an optimum level for their ability, their players do what is expected of them on each and every play, and they outhink the opposing coach. Schemes should be left to coordinators
 
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jakez4ut said:
Spurrier has the edge, but really, at this point, it's 6 and one half dozen or the other in my book.

UM has BCS appearance while at Utah, conf. titles at all three schools he coached at, and a national title in year 2 at FL.

FL isn't exactly a tough place to show that kind of improvement, but he also did it with personnel that wasn't necessarily "his choice". he got them to buy in and won it all. impressive.

however, SOS has 6 SEC titles, and a NT, and as already has been stated, an ACC title at Duke.

and by all accounts, has SC going in the right direction.

he wins the East at SC, and it's not even close.

i give it to SOS right now, and he'd have to really do something stupid to lose it.
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If he does this then there is 100%, absolute, no question about it proof that he is the better of the two
 
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