Official Ruling on the Lady Vols vs UCLA Controversy

Better that the game was decided by actual play on the field rather than such a stupid rule anyway.

Call may have been wrong by rule book definition, but the right call was made for the spirit of the game.

It was a home run, who cares how/when/etc the base is touched.

Had she actually never touched the plate or had she went to the dugout and then touched home. I would have been incensed.

Since she did actually touch home, albeit thanks to a teammate correctly pointing out she missed it, I was fine with it.

I was incensed that it took 15 minutes. I completed understand why Karen was incensed. And if I was UCLA I would be pissed because it let Tennessee regroup when they had Tennessee on the ropes.
 
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It’s an umpire judgment call, if umpire feels like the fielder missed the infield fly purposefully he stops play, batter is still out, and if runners leave the base and get tagged out, they return to their occupied base. Fielder cannot deceive a runner in that situation. By the way, there’s no infield fly in play on soft liners to the infield, it has to be a routine fly ball in the infield where the fielder makes a routine play. A blooper over the 2nd baseman’s head into short right field is not an infield fly rule situation. It’s strictly a judgment call by the umpire. Yesterday, was mind boggling that at Division 1 play, in the college World Series that both coaching staffs didn't know the situation and did not prepare their players or coaches for the situation. I guarantee you that Gibbs high school players and coaches cover this situation periodically through the season. Hopefully, our coaches get this corrected moving forward.
Then Gibbs High School players are being taught something that is wrong. But, they are young and have time to learn the correct application and interpretation of the infield fly rule.
 
Not touching home is the same as when football players drop the ball before the goal line (because they think it makes them look cool). You still have a requirement to finish the play per the rules. Umps were just too weak to make the right call, which should have been made live.
You do realize that she touched the plate and that’s not the issue? It’s the teammate assisting the baserunner that should have been called on the field but can’t be reviewed just like a holding call or non call in football
 
You do realize that she touched the plate and that’s not the issue? It’s the teammate assisting the baserunner that should have been called on the field but can’t be reviewed just like a holding call or non call in football
Pretty sure she missed the plate and was then aided by teammates before finally touching the plate. The ump should have made the call live without any need for replay.
 
You do realize that she touched the plate and that’s not the issue? It’s the teammate assisting the baserunner that should have been called on the field but can’t be reviewed just like a holding call or non call in football
You do realize that the teammate she was assisted by, according to the rules, was not allowed to assist her. The teammate that helped was on deck. Only the teammate that previously crossed the plate in front of her is allowed to assist. She should have been called out. Period.
 
I couldn't care less whether she did or did not touch home plate. She hit the home run. That's all that matters. I'm not interested in winning on some stupid technicality. Wish they did it like slow pitch softball in my rec league. You hit a home run, everyone on base and the batter just goes to the dugout. No time wasting irrelevant ceremonial trotting around the bases.
 
Yeah man just been here since 2008 waiting for this moment.

When your only reasoning is "because it should be that way", you're the one with the stupid idea. Just FYI.
So what other rules do we just ignore for what's best for the game. If it's a rule enforce it or remove it as a rule. What you said was STUPID, it's a rule, they chose not to enforce. You can't pick and choose which rule benefits your team and want it removed because your team broke said rule. Simple fix , TOUCH HOMEPLATE, after a HR. Either way we sent your beloved UCLA team home.
 
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Since bases and plates don't matter to some geniuses, we ought to just let runners run to whatever base they please at any time and in any order. And for sure they don't actually have to touch them.
 
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That’s a sooner fan looking to justify the call.
I have specifically stated that the ump should have made the call that the base runner was assisted in touching home plate.

People are confusing the wrong call, thinking that the review was wrong and that she didn’t touch the base.
 
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That's stupid, just touch home and complete the HR. If you don't, you should be out. You are closet UCLA fan ?
She did touch home plate, but after she celebrated with her teammates. In my view, the silliness of the rule is that she was called out even after she went back and touched home plate. If she misses 1st, 2d or 3d base, I agree she's out. But here, she did touch home plate--just a bit late.

The bigger issue in my mind is the ump--he seemed to be where he should have been to see it, but did nothing.
 
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Technically when the runner missed the bag in normal stride the review did not end in fact it is the root cause to keep the review open until all events were uncovered - the protest should have been allowed thats what a protest is for you can walk into new reviewability when player opens door for failing to execute touching plate RULE correctly a big gaff but girls gutted it out - want to thank them giving all they had all seaon long a class act a couple of breaks short of getting it all well done ladies
 
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I have specifically stated that the ump should have made the call that the base runner was assisted in touching home plate.

People are confusing the wrong call, thinking that the review was wrong and that she didn’t touch the base.
No, we just don’t want Sooner fans telling us what to think. Everyone knows what happened so we don’t need outside ignorance trying to convince us of something it isn’t.
 
She did touch home plate, but after she celebrated with her teammates. In my view, the silliness of the rule is that she was called out even after she went back and touched home plate. If she misses 1st, 2d or 3d base, I agree she's out. But here, she did touch home plate--just a bit late.

The bigger issue in my mind is the ump--he seemed to be where he should have been to see it, but did nothing.
She was aided by the on deck batter, which is illegal. She didn't finish the HR, she should have been called out. I'm sorry, but the rules are the rules. Another thing, the homeplate umps only responsibility on a HR is to make sure she touches homeplate, what was he doing, celebrating with UCLA? They missed it all the way around. If you don't want to enforce that rule, then get rid of it.
 
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She was aided by the on deck batter, which is illegal. She didn't finish the HR, she should have been called out. I'm sorry, but the rules are the rules. Another thing, the homeplate umps only responsibility on a HR is to make sure she touches homeplate, what was he doing, celebrating with UCLA? They missed it all the way around. If you don't want to enforce that rule, then get rid of it.
As long as I can remember, umps have overlooked the phantom out at second base on a double play. The ss/2B is often not really on the base as he catches the ball and throws to first. Let's tighten that one up too.
 
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I feel sorry for the referee you could see it in his either way he had the look why me, he took his time made the best of poor oversite and support. But it is clear whilst they gave it 120% they need a couple of those poetential huge 5 yr seniors to come over and play for use and smak some softballs we were well undersized for tournament like Japan vs USA used to be in little league you can see the difference and coaching well its time for more energy and smarts from the entire staff
 
She was aided by the on deck batter, which is illegal. She didn't finish the HR, she should have been called out. I'm sorry, but the rules are the rules. Another thing, the homeplate umps only responsibility on a HR is to make sure she touches homeplate, what was he doing, celebrating with UCLA? They missed it all the way around. If you don't want to enforce that rule, then get rid of it.
Once again, as the officals have said several times, being aided by a player not currently on the field is a warning the first time, not an out. She would only have been out if she had never touched.

The kid who noticed and pulled her back to touch saved their season, at least temporarily. I'm sure she graciously accepted her warning,

The fix is obvious, stay away from the plate and move the rec league homer celebrating farther away.
 
Once again, as the officals have said several times, being aided by a player not currently on the field is a warning the first time, not an out. She would only have been out if she had never touched.

The kid who noticed and pulled her back to touch saved their season, at least temporarily. I'm sure she graciously accepted her warning,

The fix is obvious, stay away from the plate and move the rec league homer celebrating farther away.

Pretty easy, being touched by anyone other than those running the bases or opponents ends your status as a runner wherever that is in the play. No high fives by coaches either.

Would prefer anyone entering the plate area, especially the proximity of plate and boxes, batter and catcher is ejected, that would clean up a lot in a hurry. It is at a minimum interference with the catcher’s ability to verify if the plate is touched.
 
Once again, as the officals have said several times, being aided by a player not currently on the field is a warning the first time, not an out. She would only have been out if she had never touched.

The kid who noticed and pulled her back to touch saved their season, at least temporarily. I'm sure she graciously accepted her warning,

The fix is obvious, stay away from the plate and move the rec league homer celebrating farther away.
She was in the on deck circle. So she was on the field.
 
It is fundamental rule that the run is not counted until the player has touched every base. And if there are more than one base runners, they must complete that in the correct order.

Yes, she hit the home run - but she must still complete what it takes to have that run be scored as a home run.

Fundamental part of softball (and baseball as well) - celebrate after you have done what you are supposed to do, not before.

"Fundamental" should be something that you coudn't have softball without.

Softball would be practically unchanged with a rule change here — hardly foundational.
 
Once again, as the officals have said several times, being aided by a player not currently on the field is a warning the first time, not an out. She would only have been out if she had never touched.

The kid who noticed and pulled her back to touch saved their season, at least temporarily. I'm sure she graciously accepted her warning,

The fix is obvious, stay away from the plate and move the rec league homer celebrating farther away.

I have heard that, has anybody SEEN that? Just not trusting those guys. A warning for ANY game interference or obstruction makes ZERO sense. MAYBE for an act of celebration, but not altering game action.

Really like to see the context of that thought.

EDITED TO ADD…..

Can it really make no difference that multiple players touched home between the batter and the legal base runner?
 
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