Offensive Scheme

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Is Cutcliffe's offensive scheme designed to ever complete a pass for first down yardage? Can Ainge throw the ball over 11 yards??? Almost all his throws were less than 10 yards except the two overthrows in the endzone from inside the 10 and the two he completed for 11 yards. No defense respects our ability to go down the field with the ball so why shouldn't they play 9 in the box to handle the run. During the scoreboard show, Overstreet deflected the caller's question about this problem by basically mistaking the question and saying the short passes were used to set up play action and go deep but with the exception of the Compton throw, UT never went deep. Given the way Cutcliffe runs this offense, why would any quarterback recruit who had NFL aspirations ever consider Tennessee??
 
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Anyone else notice, (Yes, I know it was ULALA) that when we put the young guys in and mixed it up, it worked?
 
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smokeyman15 said:
Anyone else notice, (Yes, I know it was ULALA) that when we put the young guys in and mixed it up, it worked?
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Yes and very well. There are some stars on this team IF they stay right, also not worry about going to the NFL early.
 
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Why would you throw it down the field when it is obvious that you don't need to? Did we score 59 today or did I just dream that up?
 
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When you can run the ball at will, you don't really need to pass. Besides, our offense needs practice running the ball anyway.
 
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veritas said:
Is Cutcliffe's offensive scheme designed to ever complete a pass for first down yardage? Can Ainge throw the ball over 11 yards??? Almost all his throws were less than 10 yards except the two overthrows in the endzone from inside the 10 and the two he completed for 11 yards. No defense respects our ability to go down the field with the ball so why shouldn't they play 9 in the box to handle the run. During the scoreboard show, Overstreet deflected the caller's question about this problem by basically mistaking the question and saying the short passes were used to set up play action and go deep but with the exception of the Compton throw, UT never went deep. Given the way Cutcliffe runs this offense, why would any quarterback recruit who had NFL aspirations ever consider Tennessee??
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The scheme is designed to create favorable match-ups with offensive skill positions. The scheme takes what the defense gives and then makes the defense pay (when it works well). The downfield pass plays in the scheme are predicated on play action pass plays supported by an effective running game. This is how I look at the success of the offensive scheme...we are averaging about 40 yards more a game rushing than a year ago...we are basically scoring 10+ point more per game than two years ago. Success=signs of improvement. Overstreet didn't deflect the caller's question. The caller use sentence fragments and a broken speech pattern. The caller and question were both a little hard to understand. Overstreet also seemed a little frustrated in the fact that UT had just come off of a 52 point win and this particular caller (like many others out there) found something to complain about. UT making long passes down the field doesn’t keep the other team’s offense from scoring. I think the problems this team has are in areas other than passing the ball down field.
 
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Yes. You need to go down field. I just finished watching the BC vs. FL St. game and both of the QB's threw down field often and it made the difference in the game. Ryan is an amazing QB and his touch on the ball down field is something to watch. Serious, next level QB's throw down-field. End of story.
 
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obxvol said:
Yes. You need to go down field. I just finished watching the BC vs. FL St. game and both of the QB's threw down field often and it made the difference in the game. Ryan is an amazing QB and his touch on the ball down field is something to watch. Serious, next level QB's throw down-field. End of story.
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Those "Serious, next level QB's" also throw short interceptions, resulting in a touchdown that end the game and national title hopes for their team. Yes that is the "End of story" for B.C.(and probably any Heisman hopes Mr. Ryan had). Tennessee can and will throw the ball down the field when it is available. Ainge can make all of the throws that this and most any other offense requires.
 
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I think ELI went to ole miss just coz cutcliffe was there and the whole world knows that... and am sure that was after taking peytons advice... i dont think QB's will think about the scheme when u have 2 very successful NFL QB's under your belt
 
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veritas said:
Is Cutcliffe's offensive scheme designed to ever complete a pass for first down yardage? Can Ainge throw the ball over 11 yards??? Almost all his throws were less than 10 yards except the two overthrows in the endzone from inside the 10 and the two he completed for 11 yards. No defense respects our ability to go down the field with the ball so why shouldn't they play 9 in the box to handle the run. During the scoreboard show, Overstreet deflected the caller's question about this problem by basically mistaking the question and saying the short passes were used to set up play action and go deep but with the exception of the Compton throw, UT never went deep. Given the way Cutcliffe runs this offense, why would any quarterback recruit who had NFL aspirations ever consider Tennessee??
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This is stupid. What if we played 3-4 WR's? What if we decided to throw a bomb when we saw that. If any DC ran 9 guys in the box he is asking for big plays to happen.
 
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if you dont stretch the defense, you make it awfully tough to run the ball. gotta throw it behind the safeties every now and then.
 
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memvol said:
The scheme is designed to create favorable match-ups with offensive skill positions. The scheme takes what the defense gives and then makes the defense pay (when it works well). The downfield pass plays in the scheme are predicated on play action pass plays supported by an effective running game. This is how I look at the success of the offensive scheme...we are averaging about 40 yards more a game rushing than a year ago...we are basically scoring 10+ point more per game than two years ago. Success=signs of improvement. Overstreet didn't deflect the caller's question. The caller use sentence fragments and a broken speech pattern. The caller and question were both a little hard to understand. Overstreet also seemed a little frustrated in the fact that UT had just come off of a 52 point win and this particular caller (like many others out there) found something to complain about. UT making long passes down the field doesn’t keep the other team’s offense from scoring. I think the problems this team has are in areas other than passing the ball down field.
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Nicely stated.

However, the offense's goals as they have stated them, is to score 30+ points a game. They havent managed to do that in 2 of 3 losses. They scored 31 in the other loss.

So they have had some success, but they've been disappointing as well as the defense. Not to the same level but disappointing nonetheless.
 
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One problem is that most of our speedy receivers are riding the pine. Jones, Moore, Paige, and O Neal are the real homerun threats. Lucas Taylor, while a wonderful receiver for us is not a burner.

I see Ainge looking to throw it deep quite a bit, but there never seems to be anyone open so he throws it short. If he had more confidence in the young guys we would see alot more deep balls IMO.
 
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norrislakevol said:
One problem is that most of our speedy receivers are riding the pine. Jones, Moore, Paige, and O Neal are the real homerun threats. Lucas Taylor, while a wonderful receiver for us is not a burner.

I see Ainge looking to throw it deep quite a bit, but there never seems to be anyone open so he throws it short. If he had more confidence in the young guys we would see alot more deep balls IMO.
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GJ, O Neal and Moore got some playing time while my boy Paige is riding the pine. :cray: But he needs to put on some weight and muscle. He will great to watch next year. Lucas Taylor i think is a great player myself, he might not have that blazing speed like Paige but he fast and he knows how to make plays. He has done a good job for the team this year.
 
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All i know is this offense hasn't produced in big games. Scheme,playcalling,players for whatever reason we don't put up big numbers against good defenses. This has to change if we are to get to atlanta. The good news is we don't play a good defense the rest of the year. The horizontal passing game is getting a little annoying though.
 
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oklavol said:
Nicely stated.

However, the offense's goals as they have stated them, is to score 30+ points a game. They havent managed to do that in 2 of 3 losses. They scored 31 in the other loss.

So they have had some success, but they've been disappointing as well as the defense. Not to the same level but disappointing nonetheless.
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I agree and I am very disappointed with the losses. Let's see how this season ends and try to support the team in the interim. Bottom line here is...I'm not completely sure that this post is as needed as maybe "Let's play a little more press coverage and pressure the football on defense" would be.
 
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norrislakevol said:
One problem is that most of our speedy receivers are riding the pine. Jones, Moore, Paige, and O Neal are the real homerun threats. Lucas Taylor, while a wonderful receiver for us is not a burner.

I see Ainge looking to throw it deep quite a bit, but there never seems to be anyone open so he throws it short. If he had more confidence in the young guys we would see alot more deep balls IMO.
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Right on point. It is simply a lack of wide receiver personnel. We went deept a lot more last year when we had Meachem.

Don't get me wrong, I get a little sick of the incessant 3rd and 4's. But I don't think it is as a result of cut's scheme.
 
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veritas said:
Is Cutcliffe's offensive scheme designed to ever complete a pass for first down yardage? Can Ainge throw the ball over 11 yards??? Almost all his throws were less than 10 yards except the two overthrows in the endzone from inside the 10 and the two he completed for 11 yards. No defense respects our ability to go down the field with the ball so why shouldn't they play 9 in the box to handle the run. During the scoreboard show, Overstreet deflected the caller's question about this problem by basically mistaking the question and saying the short passes were used to set up play action and go deep but with the exception of the Compton throw, UT never went deep. Given the way Cutcliffe runs this offense, why would any quarterback recruit who had NFL aspirations ever consider Tennessee??
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Do you know what a 2-deep zone looks like? Its when there are two safeties over the top. This is the scheme that says we are concerned about getting beat deep so we give help over the top with the safeties. This allows the offense to throw underneath because that is what is given up by the defense. Also, it is easier to run the ball because there is not an extra guy in the box. Lafayette played mostly 2-deep, so we took advantage of the short passing game and running game.
 
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