Obama train...derailed?

#51
#51
I asked this question in another thread: "What if" Steve Forbes is right and the next 2 quarters show big gains, and the economy becomes less of an issue, will the Dems spin it as volitile, or do they choose another issue to hang their political hat on?

the economy can always be used:

1. gas prices - killing the average American
2. health care costs - killing the average American
3. mortgage crisis - the average American is losing their home.
4. deficit - mortgaging the future of the average American
5. tax breaks for the wealthy and corps. on the back of (you guessed it).

In short, the same old story always gets rolled out. Sometimes it has more traction.
 
#52
#52
I understand your points NIU, but most of what you are talking about are bottom end of the scale issues that primarily affect people who are going to vote democrat anyway. The true average American voter, which is now a middle class person with a college degree, is not hurting that much yet. The gas prices suck but I have noticed no dip in traffic despite the fact that we have plenty of bus service in Nashville. Most people still get health insurance through their employer or they buy catastrophic coverage and fund an HSA. I hate to say this, but most of the people losing their homes never should've bought one in the first place. They were suckered in by freewheeling lenders despite having no significant down payment and subprime credit ratings. The deficit is an issue that crosses class lines but the Rs can just continue to blame it on the war agaisnt terror and most folks will give them a pass. All Obama can offer is to tax the rich and redistribute wealth in the form of government giveaways. Smart middle class folks such as myself know that the "rich" are always going to get a loophole and then when politicians talk about taxing the rich it just means they are going to squeeze the middle class. FWIW, I vote about 50-50 D/R and I did vote for Obama in the primary. I am just questioning his ability to carry the nation now that I have had some time to think about it.
 
#53
#53
Good points hillbilly. Seems that everyone wants change and hope.. However, there is no message behind the promise and I fear that Obama wants the presidency more for himself. Listening to his wife and he say the things that they say really turns me off. His message is so critical to the right that it seems as if he is doing what Congress and the Senate did by stumping on change and hope. And we all see what Pelosi has accomplished.. Nothing, if anything the economy has gone deeper into the crapper and we have sent more troops to serve. I'm not a get out right away guy, but I am a get a plan to get out guy.. Just don't tell the media about it.

BTW it would be really hard for me to vote for anyone who says that we don't fund education enough and we are going to fund more social programs.
 
#54
#54
I have a hard time seeing them join - neither of these would settle for VP (why should they at this point).

Political Radar: Obama: "You Won't See Me as a VP Candidate"

March 07, 2008 10:49 PM
ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports:While in Casper, Wyo., today Sen. Barack Obama ruled out the possibility being a vice presidential candidate during an interview with CBS' Montana affiliate KTVQ. Here is a transcipt of what he said.
Q: You’ve raised $55 million in February and in your speech today you said "I was against the war in ’03, ’04, ’05 -- all the way on through 2010, and you specifically mentioned Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Could you ever see yourself on the same ticket as Senator Clinton?
A: Well, you know, I think it’s premature. You won’t see me as a vice presidential candidate -- you know, I’m running for president. We have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton, and have a higher popular vote, and I think we can maintain our delegate count -- but you know, what I’m really focused on right now, because all that stuff is premature, is winning this nomination and changing the country. And I think that’s what people here are concerned about. How are you going to provide health care to every American? So I spend a lot of time talking about the plan I wanted to put in place that would not only lower costs for those who already have health insurance, but also make sure people who don’t have health insurance can get health care as good as the health care I have as a member of Congress. Those are the kinds of issues that really make a difference in people’s lives, and we’re going to keep on talking about them.
Good call volinbham!!
Let's see if he's a man of his word.
 
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