Obama train...derailed?

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Hillary Clinton takes Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island (apparently for good measure)! Add that to the Supers and I would have to say that Clinton has the nomination in the bag.
 
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That will be very surprising. There has been so much Obama talk, he's really been in the spot light. He's like a movie star! :)
 
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I think Mr. McCain stands a better chance to win over Hillary than Obama, I hope anyways..Good win for Hillary.
 
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At the very least, the Dems must now continue to raise and spend internally to fight each other.
It will be interesting to see how the MSM plays this. Now that the shine is dulling over the recent (ahem) missteps by Obama, will they pile on or try to continue to hold his water?
 
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It's going to be really interesting.

1. While he lost, Obama did make up some ground in both Ohio and Texas.

2. Obama may still lead in both the popular vote and pledge delegates after it's all said and done.

Glad it's not my party...
 
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Its going to be interesting. I think it will run pretty even from here on out. Penn. will probably go the same way Ohio went. But NorCarolina and Miss. will heavily favor Obama which will seperate the two a little more. So in the end he will win the delegate count and popular vote but I get a feeling the Supers are going to believe Hillary wins states they think matter and elect her.

She will lose to McCain, by a lot.
 
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I think the Supers is the dumbest thing, ever. Most people don't even know about them.
 
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VOLatile said:
I think the Supers is the dumbest thing, ever. Most people don't even know about them.
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The irony is that they were created to prevent this type of thing. I believe the early popularity of Jesse Jackson in some primaries scared party bosses into creating a system to pick "the legitimate" candidate.
 
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Top of the Ticket : Los Angeles Times : Breaking News: Hillary Clinton hints at joint ticket with Obama

Sen. Hillary Clinton, who some wrote off as all but finished in the race for the Democratic nomination for president, has pulled another surprise out of the hat that we never see her wearing.
The morning after regaining some political momentum by winning three of four primaries (after losing 12 in a row), the former first lady happened to mention on some early news shows the possibility of her and Sen. Barack Obama forming a joint ticket to face the new Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain.
With most political observers sound asleep after a long Tuesday evening that appeared to augur at least seven more weeks of possibly bitter and divisive struggle between the two Democrats until a potentially decisive Pennsylvania primary on April 22, Clinton went on some morning news programs, according to the Associated Press, and appeared to raise the possibility of a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket.
"That may be where this is headed," she said, "but, of course, we have to decide who is on the top of ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."
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All the speculation in the primary might be a mute point if this occurs...just who gets the top spot
 
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I have a hard time seeing them join - neither of these would settle for VP (why should they at this point).
 
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The joint ticket might be near impossible if Obama's issues become radioactive in the coming days and weeks ahead. Wait and see...
 
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volinbham said:
I have a hard time seeing them join - neither of these would settle for VP (why should they at this point).
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mmm...I don't know about that. Would either of them want to settle? No. But when the time comes and one gets the nomination...probably the other person would take the VP if offered.
 
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Obama is far from out of this thing. As long as he continues to poll well and stay ahead in delegates, he will be alright. Mark it down, Obama takes Pennsylvania.
 
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emainvol said:
Obama is far from out of this thing. As long as he continues to poll well and stay ahead in delegates, he will be alright. Mark it down, Obama takes Pennsylvania.
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There is still time to jump ship before it's too late!
 
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emainvol said:
Obama is far from out of this thing. As long as he continues to poll well and stay ahead in delegates, he will be alright. Mark it down, Obama takes Pennsylvania.
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I don't know about Pennsylvania...Rendell is working for Clinton.

The Clinton's will be pressuring the dem establishment hard for the nod at the convention.

Obama is by no means out - he's still the front runner but the Clinton machine has life.
 
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allvol123 said:
mmm...I don't know about that. Would either of them want to settle? No. But when the time comes and one gets the nomination...probably the other person would take the VP if offered.
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and the Secret Service would have to triple its man power! BHO would be a fool to put HRC in as VP! Its been said the Clinton's have killed before!
 
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Obama's core message is change - him accepting the VP position with an establishment candidate or choosing an establishment candidate as VP dilutes that message.

This is his best shot to be President while using the change agent/outsider theme. If he loses and remains in the Senate, he becomes the very establishment he is railing against.
 
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