Obama Solves Poverty!

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jamesd1628

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This plan is an Obamanation

(Obamanation is a copyrwritten word owned by AllVol123 - do not copy, distribute or mangle this word without express permission from AllVol123 or his peeps).
 
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Now guys, don't call him a socialist. The facts are just pesky little things that get in the way.
 
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While I agree with the necessity of such measures, I assure those of you who are raising hell about it that this will not go far in Congress. I mean, who gives a sh*t about the starving kids in Africa? Let's go to the mall!
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
While I agree with the necessity of such measures, I assure those of you who are raising hell about it that this will not go far in Congress. I mean, who gives a sh*t about the starving kids in Africa? Let's go to the mall!
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or how about we put that money towards our own pathetic state of education?
 
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volfanbill said:
or how about we put that money towards our own pathetic state of education?
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Not saying we shouldn't. I am a strong advocate of rediverting funds into education, partiuclarly public education.

But even if you're the vote your pocket book rather than your conscience kind of person, you have to realize that global poverty and regional conflicts outside the US can and often do have a negative impact on our own economy. It's the principal of global political economy; everything is interconnected now. (Highly recommend Thomas Friedman's book The Lexus and the Olive Tree). I'm not against mitigating the damages ahead of time.

In any event, to say that supporting education and financing efforts to eradicate global poverty are mutually exclusive is shortsighted at best.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
Not saying we shouldn't. I am a strong advocate of rediverting funds into education, partiuclarly public education.

But even if you're the vote your pocket book rather than your conscience kind of person, you have to realize that global poverty and regional conflicts outside the US can and often do have a negative impact on our own economy. It's the principal of global political economy; everything is interconnected now. (Highly recommend Thomas Friedman's book The Lexus and the Olive Tree). I'm not against mitigating the damages ahead of time.

In any event, to say that supporting education and financing efforts to eradicate global poverty are mutually exclusive is shortsighted at best.
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using your argument, I could support the war as an end to terrorism and dictatorships that are hurting our economy. There are way too many issues within our country to worry about before we even start to think of ending global poverty.
 
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volfanbill said:
using your argument, I could support the war as an end to terrorism and dictatorships that are hurting our economy. There are way too many issues within our country to worry about before we even start to think of ending global poverty.
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You're missing the point. Global poverty and conflict IS an issue in our own country.
 
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Maybe we could try to solve poverty in our own country, first...After that we should be very good at it...good enough to translate that on a larger scale. Just a thought.
 
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volfanbill said:
using your argument, I could support the war as an end to terrorism and dictatorships that are hurting our economy. There are way too many issues within our country to worry about before we even start to think of ending global poverty.
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here's what a good friend of mine wrote me on the subject. Seems to sum it up well (except for the HC part :p)

If you want to do than then make damn sure that nobody, not one single person, in this country is impoverished, lacking education, lacking healthcare, living in substandard housing or goes to bed hungry at night. Until then...:censored: the rest of the world.
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OrangeWilly said:
Maybe we could try to solve poverty in our own country, first...After that we should be very good at it...good enough to translate that on a larger scale. Just a thought.
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Clearly the domestic effort will never be complete to our satisfaction. And we can't just stand by and allow the rest of the world to crumble. It continues to bite us in the ass. These efforts can and should be simultaneous.

Those terrorists don't hate us because we're free; they hate us because we're rich, fat and apathetic.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
Clearly the domestic effort will never be complete to our satisfaction. And we can't just stand by and allow the rest of the world to crumble. It continues to bite us in the ass. These efforts can and should be simultaneous.

Those terrorists don't hate us because we're free; they hate us because we're rich, fat and apathetic.
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did this come from the illogical liberal handbook? it's almost a franken talking point.

wonder why they hated the Soviets back in the day?
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
It's precisely this attitude that brought 9/11 upon us.
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no... the attitude that we have to convince the entire world to be just like us brought upon 9/11. Solving our problems first and accepting different cultures would go a long way in restoring the acceptance of the US in foreign lands.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
It's precisely this attitude that brought 9/11 upon us.
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wow. we invited 9/11 by being apathetic toward a slew of militant clowns who have focused on destroying the Western way of life for hundreds of years. You have the perfect argument because it can't be disproven and is supported by the whackjob left of the university variety, but it makes no logical sense whatsoever. If it does and you're supporting it, then you're all for doing away with any punishment for murder in favor of round the table discussions to determine motive. I can tell you the answer before they all start, the murderer's environment was the problem, not the guy disregarding the law.

Appeasement just didn't seem to work out very well for the Israeli's, so they just went back to kicking the teeth out of the caveman equivalents in the event of problems. I like the policy.
 
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