O.J. Owens suing NCAA, SEC for handling of head injuries.

[sanddune50]

When basketball and baseball become just as aggressively physical, then I'd perhaps agree. Acting like those are even close to similar to the amount of opportunities for a concussion as football shows that you are just talking out of your ass

No it shows how absurd your thinking is. If you want to keep your kid out of football for fear of developing CTE from a hit from another 7 year old, feel free. But it's not your place or anyone else's to champion some crusade based on a limited sample size to end tackle football. All you have done thus far is exaggerate data and apply it to classifications that have zero to do with the study. Carry on being a puppet. Better to be accused of talking out of my ass than having someone's hand up my ass and speaking for me.

 

[KingtUT]

Yall mad? lol

 

[BeecherVol]

Do i really need to explain? You are "disputing" his claim of problems resulting from head injuries by saying his window for getting the injuries wouldve been really small. That's a load of crap. Like I said you dont know what went on in practices or how hard he threw around his body/head when he was practicing.

What's it going to take for you take the claim seriously? A suicide note that says "please donate my brain to CTE research"? Because at this point an autopsy report is about the only thing that gets peoples attentions in regards to CTE.

CTE is real.

Having said that, it may not fit here either.

 

[LA Vol]

Where does personal responsibility begin... and litigation end?

Doctors can't diagnose CTE while a person is alive, and almost every person who has ever played sports has been knocked in the head, so any person who has ever played sports can attribute depression, headaches, fatigue, anxiety and forgetfulness to sports-related head trauma experienced at an unspecified point in time, perhaps decades prior.

Soon we’ll be litigating growing old.

 

[goooooovols]

I have no doubt he has some lasting effects from playing football, I do as well from an injury I sustained as an eighth grader....now should I sue my middle school because I missed the opportunity at the NFL or some other venture or because my life may not be as gratifying with a lingering medical condition?

Proving that his time alone at UT were the only instances where he could have possibly sustained injuries will be the burden. He most likely played 13 years of football leading up to that point at which I guarantee he suffered multiple minor concussions, all of which would not have been documented at all. The fact is this is a bigger problem than one or two case...our bodies are not meant to endure the blunt force collisions that a sport like football incurs. The sport comes with a disclaimer that extends back way before we knew the particulars involved.

 

[BearCat204]

Making a point doesn't constitute 'crying'. I think you're crying with your analogy. Does that take away from your comment now because I used the word 'crying'? And it's nothing like people suing big tobacco, unless you're only considering the people who made the willing choice to smoke cigarettes. Wasn't aware that people could get side stream CTE.

Smoking cigarettes before people knew all the dangers that the manufacturers knew the entire time. Same thing with concussions and CTE. It's ridiculous to suggest that he should have known the dangers of concussions and should just suck it up and take personal accountability. I normally roll my eyes when I see someone sueing whatever company because normally it's something that person knew going in......this isn't one of those situations.

 

[sanddune50]

Smoking cigarettes before people knew all the dangers that the manufacturers knew the entire time. Same thing with concussions and CTE. It's ridiculous to suggest that he should have known the dangers of concussions and should just suck it up and take personal accountability. I normally roll my eyes when I see someone sueing whatever company because normally it's something that person knew going in......this isn't one of those situations.

It's also ridiculous to automatically assume this guy has everything he is claiming due to a very limited college career. It's not outside the realm of possibility that this is a money grab. Most lawsuits are.

 

[delfonic]

Smoking cigarettes before people knew all the dangers that the manufacturers knew the entire time. Same thing with concussions and CTE. It's ridiculous to suggest that he should have known the dangers of concussions and should just suck it up and take personal accountability. I normally roll my eyes when I see someone sueing whatever company because normally it's something that person knew going in......this isn't one of those situations.

There's an established timeline for when the NFL "knew" about the potential impact of concussions. I've not seen where the NFL data was shared with the NCAA or where they performed their own studies.

In my personal opinion the NCAA and NFL are liable for injuries sustained during participation in sanctioned training, practice, or games... regardless of when who knew what.

The only question I have surrounds the authenticity of this diagnosis. This is not uncommon ground in workers comp cases.

 

[chargervol]

Everybody thinks they have a legitimate case to sue and avoid working for a living these days. Nobody put a gun to his head and made him play. Take some personal responsibility for a change. Hell, I don't even remember this guy playing.

One would think if "everybody" was doing this, someone on this thread would be. At the very least, I would probably know at least 1 single person that is/has "avoided working for a living" yet I don't.
Don't get me wrong, they exist. I've seen a few and read about a few but that doesn't have the same ring to it as everybody.

Just picking on you. I honestly think that is a bit of an overstatement. More like a partisan debate phrasing than anything like reality.
Edit: I see know most of the political junkies have joined and it is being discussed as the two extremes.
Instead of the middle reality that it almost always is.

 

[Dr H Lecter]

No, it's not a direct from of payment. My company offers 100% tuition reimbursement for graduate degrees, do you think I'd still work there if I didn't draw a salary? Would you work somewhere where your product brought in revenue but your only form of payment was free education? What are other industries where adults aren't able to profit directly from their services?

But if some company promised to pay my room and board, and tuition, to prepare myself for job opportunities to earn millions of dollars, I'd take the deal. I don't even have to pay it back if my college experience does not meet the company's expectations and can even take the education path to perform whatever occupation I desire and not even work for that company. Unless you have rich parents and a gold pacifier, anyone would sign up for that. Or I guess you could just pump gas at some gas station in South Carolina.

 

[82_VOL_83]

If, at the time, the severity of concussions was starting to be understood, but the school didn't instill precautions and the SEC and NCAA governing bodies didn't mandate stricter tests, then I agree that he and many others in the same situations should be able to receive recompense if they are suffering.

I have a bleeding heart.

Fify

 

[82_VOL_83]

These sentences being placed consecutively are quite humorous

The issue at hand is that we're looking at a disease that is seriously harming people who put their lives on the line for our entertainment. The worse part is that we can't even tell that it is afflicting them until they're dead. Since you can't even truly diagnose CTE until you've chopped open their brain, it's even more difficult to understand just how prevalent it is.

Acting like CTE doesn't link itself to any level of football is unbelievably naive.

How convenient. Claim to exhibit symptoms common to nearly every profession and can't be proven one way or the other until you die.

 

[sanddune50]

One would think if "everybody" was doing this, someone on this thread would be. At the very least, I would probably know at least 1 single person that is/has "avoided working for a living" yet I don't.
Don't get me wrong, they exist. I've seen a few and read about a few but that doesn't have the same ring to it as everybody.

Just picking on you. I honestly think that is a bit of an overstatement. More like a partisan debate phrasing than anything like reality.
Edit: I see know most of the political junkies have joined and it is being discussed as the two extremes.
Instead of the middle reality that it almost always is.

:hi:

 

[chargervol]

Whoever made the point about "how do we know it didn't happen in high school" I must say that is an excellent argument.
Unless there was a single hit that was an obvious cause of change, how can this be narrowed to college?