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Jack Burton said:
People here were mad at facts? I thought most folks preferred the truth to fantasy until I came back here.

With that said what’s the long term outlook on Pruitt from those on the inside?
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Honestly, it's very much wait and see.

People are extremely confident in having Coach Fulmer steering the athletic department as a whole.

That said, it is going to take some time before everyone buys in on Pruitt. People hated Dooley. A lot of people in the building thought very highly of Butch and most of his staff (Mike Vollmer excluded). Pruitt is a very different kind of guy. He hasn't taken the time to get to know a lot of people and has wanted to change things with some people who have been there a long time and have responsibilities with football.

Now, a lot of people from the outside will say that's a good thing, needed change, etc., but that's not necessarily true. The Butch Jones era didn't fail because of a media relations person or even the athletic trainer. It failed because of the people coaching every day. I don't think Fulmer is going to allow Pruitt to make some of the changes he has wanted to make with staff members that work WITH football but not FOR football. I think that is a good thing. That will be fascinating to watch as the next year or so progresses.

They allowed him to get rid of the head athletic trainer for football (not to be confused with the strength coach), which is not normally a position the head coach can influence. That was concerning to a lot of people.

I think Pruitt ultimately will have success, but the question is how much? You only get three years to prove yourself now in college football. And you're expected to win big in a conference that has never been better top-to-bottom. Fulmer never coached in a conference where Kentucky, South Carolina and Vandy had the resources to compete. That's the case now. Think about 2016. Butch made some critical mistakes with preparation and some other behind the scenes issues, but if he's playing 2006 South Carolina and Vandy, UT sleepwalks to wins in both of those games and UT is in Atlanta. While we were busy squandering our advantages 2009-13, the SEC Network money evened the playing field. Butch had to deal with it, Pruitt has to deal with it. It's not an excuse, but it's a reality.
 
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butchna said:
He was very smarmy and combative about it tho. As he is wont to do. Needed a good smacking imo. He always comes back after leaving us for dead. :)
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Guilty as charged. I know Gruden, not well enough to pick up the phone and call him whenever (he's not much of a texter), but well enough to know he wasn't coming and all of the stories about booster planes and secret meetings were absolute garbage. I definitely got defensive because I got real tired of people blinded by Grudenmania telling me I didn't know what I was talking about.

The only three Gruden stories that were true in that whole deal were that Big Jim Haslam allowed him use of a plane when there was an ongoing health issue with one of Cindy's family members, that the Grudens bought a property here for their son to live in with a space for them, and that Gruden visited the complex and met with Butch and the staff several times mid-season. He did and still does think very highly of Butch.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Guilty as charged. I know Gruden, not well enough to pick up the phone and call him whenever (he's not much of a texter), but well enough to know he wasn't coming and all of the stories about booster planes and secret meetings were absolute garbage. I definitely got defensive because I got real tired of people blinded by Grudenmania telling me I didn't know what I was talking about.

The only three Gruden stories that were true in that whole deal were that Big Jim Haslam allowed him use of a plane when there was an ongoing health issue with one of Cindy's family members, that the Grudens bought a property here for their son to live in with a space for them, and that Gruden visited the complex and met with Butch and the staff several times mid-season. He did and still does think very highly of Butch.
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Could have paraphrased that info without betraying confidences and communicated it. You belittled people for simply believing in the possibility. I personally wasn’t one of them but I felt talked down to just reading your posts. I’d say that you could reply by saying “that’s your problem” but you got butthurt by the reaction and went crying off to VQ...so own your attitude. :hi:
 
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butchna said:
Could have paraphrased that info without betraying confidences and communicated it. You belittled people for simply believing in the possibility. I personally wasn’t one of them but I felt talked down to just reading your posts. I’d say that you could reply by saying “that’s your problem” but you got butthurt by the reaction and went crying off to VQ...so own your attitude. :hi:
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I did because the idea of him coming was so ridiculous that I couldn't believe people actually continued to talk about it.

I've never posted on VQ. I wouldn't give Brent Hubbs one penny of my money under any circumstances. I was on the Scout board long before here, moved on when they consolidated with 247 and became a pay site.
 
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Well, I am thankful to have some, any inside info. I don't care about attitudes, the info itself will show the poster to be someone of knowledge, or hot air. We can only take it as that. So, thanks for sharing DP. It's something you don't have to do, so it's appreciated when you do.
 
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JJ Peterson and Brant Lawless have grade issues. JJs are class grades and can be fixed. Lawless is ACT related tougher pull, but still a shot. Loundon the RB transfer from Mich St is still not here yet either.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
I did because the idea of him coming was so ridiculous that I couldn't believe people actually continued to talk about it.

I've never posted on VQ. I wouldn't give Brent Hubbs one penny of my money under any circumstances. I was on the Scout board long before here, moved on when they consolidated with 247 and became a pay site.
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Well while we got you here, what the deal with Lawless? Or is that privileged info?
 
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DeerPark12 said:
I did because the idea of him coming was so ridiculous that I couldn't believe people actually continued to talk about it.

I've never posted on VQ. I wouldn't give Brent Hubbs one penny of my money under any circumstances. I was on the Scout board long before here, moved on when they consolidated with 247 and became a pay site.
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Somebody posing as you, did then. Got the requisite amount of pity points and e-high fives for the indignity suffered. Good to know that you’ll go off the rails when you “can’t believe” people would BELIEVE something...makes you more human. :)
 
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It’s obvious that if inside info isn’t borderline propaganda the natives will become restless. Then they whine and undermine until the source is silenced.
 
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Jack Burton said:
It’s obvious that if inside info isn’t borderline propaganda the natives will become restless. Then they whine and undermine until the source is silenced.
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I quote this as evidence you're wrong.
 
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