Notre Dame has to join a conference going forward

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The deal with ND is still based on a subjective ranking. If the playoffs committee doesn’t think the Irish are worthy they can just bump them down to number 13 in the final rankings.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Not sure but the article which said ND declined the bowl bid seemed to indicate that the ND agreement was a done deal for 2026. I think it preceded the current negotiations.

Some feel this will force the field to 14 teams or more.
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14 teams 🤣

A 4 team playoff is all that is required to ensure the best team in college football gets a shot at the championship. That was the original stated goal of a playoff system.

Won’t be long before people are clamoring for the entire Top 25 to be included.
 
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DC_Vol said:
14 teams 🤣

A 4 team playoff is all that is required to ensure the best team in college football gets a shot at the championship. That was the original stated goal of a playoff system.

Won’t be long before people are clamoring for the entire Top 25 to be included.
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Seems like 4 would have been plenty this year.
 
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DC_Vol said:
14 teams 🤣

A 4 team playoff is all that is required to ensure the best team in college football gets a shot at the championship. That was the original stated goal of a playoff system.

Won’t be long before people are clamoring for the entire Top 25 to be included.
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Also another thing that seems awful.

First round this year is December 20th

Semis on January 9th


Dragging this out is not the great bargain people think.

It really should be 6-8 teams. They went full blown moronic with 12
 
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sami said:
Totally agree with inflated self value, but if that's the case why wouldn't they join a conference? As inflated as Penn State's view of themselves might be, they joined the Big 18. At some point, Notre Dame will be squeezed the same way, I would think.
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They claim they were denied entry by Michigan back in the 1920s but they need to stop using that as an excuse. It’s been over 100 years people. Time to get with the times 😂
 
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JMSqb11 said:
The ACC can simply pull their teams from giving Notre Dame P4 opponents to play. Notre Dame being the ACC also elevates that conference.

If the P4 conferences decided to collude against them and not allow any of their teams to schedule them, all they can do is play 12 G5 schools. That’s not getting them into the playoff.
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They already have a bevy of G5 programs masquerading as P4 teams in the ACC. Don't see how it helps ND's schedule as is.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Originally, they wanted a way to get all of the P5 teams in the mix and also satisfy a G5 team that was undefeated and maybe good. Then the conferences expanded, and it became P4 and the G5. They could easily now connect back to the championship games for the P4 conferences .... yes, make the teams win their conference, give the top 2 a bye and have two teams at large - one for a G5 Team and one for the top ranked team that did not win their championship. That allows an independent like ND a spot.

Folks would still argue but at least the selection is objective and pushes the conference championship games back to the forefront.

Does it end up with the teams that folks may think are the best - no - but it does put the value back on a team winning their conference.

If they did that this year the following would be in as conference champs - and NO ONE would like it at all.

- Indiana
- Georgia
- Texas Tech
- Duke

And this would be the other two teams.
- Tulane (G5)
- Ohio State (highest rank)

The bowl games then have good matchups again and championship games matter. You could probably add two more and still ensure you got the "best" when you had a Duke happen.

But my bet is that rather than backing up we will go to 14 or 16 next year - making this worse rather than better. Now teams are trying to avoid a 4 loss as 3 loss teams will get in.
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24 team FCS model, no bowls. Solves all problems except the 25th ranked team complaints. Put up or shut up.
 
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Notre Dame AD rips ACC, saying 'permanent damage' has been done

Bevacqua is upset with how the ACC pushed for Miami over Notre Dame leading up to the selections.

"We were mystified by the actions of the conference to attack their biggest, really, partner in football and a member of their conference in 24 of our other sports," Bevacqua told Patrick. "... They have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference and Notre Dame."
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The CFP and ESPN do it, not the SEC and B1G, and ND has a $50M / yr TV deal they share with no one (other than probably paying well for coming to their stadium to play.)

Like it or not, they are a big brand that brings lots of eyeballs that the CFP and ESPN would rather have watching the tournament. This year is likely a "throw the other schools a bone" because we made a sweetheart deal with ND token snub.

I don't like how ND gets overrated every year and the CFP deal but I'd expect nothing else from a business standpoint.
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The Notre Dame CFP deal goes away once the CFP expands beyond 14 teams.
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
Miami and Bama were both raked ahead of ND.

There is no incentive for ND to join a conference with tougher competition, more travel, and the possibility of jet injuries and/or a loss in a conference championship game.
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Jet injuries? Are Notre Dame players somehow unusually susceptible to pulling a Joe Biden?
 
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volfan102455 said:
Independent or not, they have to play a schedule that warrants their ranking and not be treated special. The deal of them being in if they are in the top 12 is just wrong given the way it works.
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I like @JMSqb11 idea but doubt it’ll happen until it costs an ACC or B1G team that last spot, because ND is 12th and 11 gets bumped. If it does then the committee can treat them like the mid 2000’s Boise and TCU teams got treated.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Notre Dame AD rips ACC, saying 'permanent damage' has been done

Bevacqua is upset with how the ACC pushed for Miami over Notre Dame leading up to the selections.

"We were mystified by the actions of the conference to attack their biggest, really, partner in football and a member of their conference in 24 of our other sports," Bevacqua told Patrick. "... They have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference and Notre Dame."
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lol, there is a real easy fix. actually be in the ACC. for football. the 24 other sports don't matter one lick.

in the same rant he says notre dame is a "partner" to the ACC, and not a member. you don't get to be INDEPENDENT and claim member privileges.
 
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Call No. 1: To Notre Dame's general counsel

This conversation would determine if the ACC openly politicking for Miami to make the College Football Playoff gives Notre Dame any license to break its agreement with the conference. The deal puts most of Notre Dame’s non-football sports in the ACC and guarantees five football games a year against ACC teams.

If the lawyers believe an arbitrator might let Notre Dame leave without penalty, Bevacqua could move to calls No. 2 and No. 3, because he cannot abandon the ACC deal without solving the scheduling problem it covers. Thanks to that agreement, Notre Dame still gets power conference opponents in October and November. In an era of massive conferences, those schools do not want tough non-conference games after September.

If your business partner stabs you in the front, that partner should at least give you better matchups. The ACC, whose 2025 champion finished behind the Sun Belt winner, is not meeting that standard. Notre Dame might find better partners. The Irish remain a valuable TV draw and a guaranteed stadium filler, which leads to the next two calls.



Call No. 2: To Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti

Offer the rest of Notre Dame’s non-football sports as Big Ten members, since Irish hockey already plays there. Then make a scheduling deal to play USC and Purdue annually with a rotating set of three other Big Ten opponents.

This would preserve the Notre Dame-USC rivalry and give the Big Ten reason to help keep its traditional dates. The Irish and Purdue could continue their long series, and the rotating slots would guarantee frequent games against Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, Michigan, and Nebraska.

It fits geographically, not due to regional ties but because both sides recruit nationwide. NBC, Notre Dame’s TV partner, also works with the Big Ten. NBC could sweeten the deal by paying extra for Irish road games, or the league could steer those to Fox or CBS.

If Petitti’s response is a push for full membership, or if Bevacqua wants another option, there is still one more call.



Call No. 3: To SEC commissioner Greg Sankey

This makes less geographic sense for non-football sports, but would thrill anyone who wants Notre Dame to face Alabama, Georgia, Texas, LSU, and more. Non-football teams might not even need to join the SEC. This could be a pure football scheduling play.

Notre Dame’s biggest problem this year was a lack of quality wins after early losses to Miami and Texas A&M. USC was the only possible resume booster. Adding SEC games in October and November would give the Irish a better path if they believe they are national title contenders.

The SEC could extract more money from Disney and ESPN by guaranteeing a few Notre Dame appearances each year. Its schools, moving to nine league games, would also gain high-end non-conference inventory.

Would Bevacqua and Notre Dame be mad enough to pursue this? And would someone partner with them if they could get out of the ACC deal?

It's probably worth an ask.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Notre Dame AD rips ACC, saying 'permanent damage' has been done

Bevacqua is upset with how the ACC pushed for Miami over Notre Dame leading up to the selections.

"We were mystified by the actions of the conference to attack their biggest, really, partner in football and a member of their conference in 24 of our other sports," Bevacqua told Patrick. "... They have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference and Notre Dame."
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Irrelevant - Miami beat Notre Dame.
 
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