Northwestern, Team 119, Close Games, and the FPI

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No such thing as a moral victory.

However, there is such a thing as a close game.

And close games might just be the "hidden stats" in a comparison of Tennessee and Northwestern's seasons.

Consider this:

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Took all of the Vols' and Wildcats' opponents this year and slapped them onto a chart, 1 to 100+, using ESPN FPI end-of-season standings. Wins have a green background, and losses have a red background.

First thing that pops out: the Vols played a tougher top-end than NU, two teams in the Top 5 (in fact, they are the #1 and #2 teams in the nation, per the FPI). Below that, the results appear very similar: there's a zone, from about the 10-range down to about the 30-range, where both Vols and Cats have a mix of wins and losses with no clear dividing line between them. Then from 40 on down, both teams won every game they played.

From this chart, one might conclude that the two teams are very closely matched, and it should be a tight game.

But that doesn't take into account close games. Maybe they can tell us more:

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This chart is identical to the one before, except that any game with a final score within a TD of even now gets a yellow background.

You'll notice Tennessee's red-backgrounds all disappeared. All four losses were close games. NU's, on the other hand, did not. Michigan beat the Cats 38-0, and Iowa whupped them 40-10.

So first new note: the ability to lose big if things turn south is absolutely in the NU team's DNA; it is entirely missing from Team 119, even against the best competition in the land.

Second note is this: teams all the way down at the bottom of the well had the ability to play NU close. Purdue (FPI #87, final score 21-14) and even Ball State (FPI #103, final score 24-19) were able to hang close to the Cats. Aside from #62 South Carolina, the Vols had no trouble pulling well away from outclassed opponents.

So What? What does this say?

Can be interpreted perhaps in a variety of ways, but what I think I'm taking from it is this: the game might be close...it might come right down to the wire. But if it doesn't, if it's a blowout, it's only going to be a blowout in favor of the Vols. From this chart, it looks like NU largely doesn't know how to win big, and Team 119 clearly does not lose big.

This doesn't mean NU sucks and Vols win, write it down, put it in the vault, we're done here. Nope, doesn't mean that at all. It only means that the Vols have the ability to beat anyone, while the Cats have the ability to be beaten by anyone.

It's good to be on our side of that equation.
 
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Huh?? Their signature win is much, much better than ours. I'm not all in on close calls.
 
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Great work; I believe that consistently playing good competition close is a better arbitor of ability than having one upset win. Removing their Stanford win and our near upset of Bama gives a clearer picture of true capability across the season. The final FPI shows the Vols SoS was higher, with better results against better teams.

ESPN Football Power Index - 2015 - ESPN

IMO,the outlier win against Stanford was an anomaly rather than the norm, and apparently the #54 ranking for NU agrees. (Equal to SCe win over UNC in week one?) But that's why we play the game, so I guess we shall see....

Side note: another poster found the whatifsports.com simulator and linked it for us - I ran it 40 times with Vols winning 75% of games, averaged margin, Vols -8, and most common prediction was approx score:30-10 Vols, with ouliers affecting spread. May mean something or nothing lol.
 
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It sounds like you know what your talking about. Alright Next explain the theory of relativity to me besides e =mc squared.
 
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It sounds like you know what your talking about. Alright Next explain the theory of relativity to me besides e =mc squared.

Hehe, wait! I saw this on TV the other night. Something about Newton's theory of gravity having it wrong, it's not the mass of the earth pulling you in, rather it's the weight of the warped space-time pushing you in. I kid you not, had never heard it explained that way before. :)
 
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IMHO, UT should win this game by 20+. NU's D is the strength of their team. They have not faced a true running QB all year. UT is more physical. UT is more athletic. UT is just as disciplined in their play if not more so.

I have watched several of their games now. They have a few good players. The guys in between them... aren't very athletic.
 
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I like the charts and can agree with the conclusion. The two teams appear to be equally matched. If one team gets a good lead, it is likely to be the Vols. I don't think NU can be painted at Iowa 2014-Part 2. I will not be too surprised to see a hard fought contest.
 
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I like the charts and can agree with the conclusion. The two teams appear to be equally matched. If one team gets a good lead, it is likely to be the Vols. I don't think NU can be painted at Iowa 2014-Part 2. I will not be too surprised to see a hard fought contest.

I haven't seen charts that deem this an equal match up. All of the ones I've seen have UT favored.

But it is more than that. UT has an advantage in EVERY single match up.

This will be the slowest DL UT has faced all year... and not the biggest or most physical.

They have two good CB's but UT should be able to get match ups against their S's and LB's that kill them.

They have a good LB. He hasn't seen a RB this year as good as Hurd, Kamara, ... or even Dobbs except for McCaffrey. Remember Stanford for some mysterious reason barely gave McCaffrey any touches. If they had... that would have been a different game.

UT's front 6/7 should dominate their OL. They have neither the size nor athleticism to win that match up.

Their WR's can't catch. They're decent athletes. Jackson has gotten a lot of carries and yardage. He's a small back who is by no stretch as quick as Michel and several others UT has faced.

IMHO, the most dangerous player on their O is the QB. He can take off with it and throws fairly well... if someone could catch it. But UT's down 4 will probably pressure him on every throw. He hasn't performed well when pressured.
 
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I haven't seen charts that deem this an equal match up. All of the ones I've seen have UT favored.

But it is more than that. UT has an advantage in EVERY single match up.

This will be the slowest DL UT has faced all year... and not the biggest or most physical.

They have two good CB's but UT should be able to get match ups against their S's and LB's that kill them.

They have a good LB. He hasn't seen a RB this year as good as Hurd, Kamara, ... or even Dobbs except for McCaffrey. Remember Stanford for some mysterious reason barely gave McCaffrey any touches. If they had... that would have been a different game.

UT's front 6/7 should dominate their OL. They have neither the size nor athleticism to win that match up.

Their WR's can't catch. They're decent athletes. Jackson has gotten a lot of carries and yardage. He's a small back who is by no stretch as quick as Michel and several others UT has faced.

IMHO, the most dangerous player on their O is the QB. He can take off with it and throws fairly well... if someone could catch it. But UT's down 4 will probably pressure him on every throw. He hasn't performed well when pressured.

Everything you mentioned is spot on. My compliments!

However, the NU coaching staff is smart. Really smart. They're gonna find ways to move the ball. I don't foresee another Iowa. I see a tough game with the team that wants it more winning.
 
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Everything you mentioned is spot on. My compliments!

However, the NU coaching staff is smart. Really smart. They're gonna find ways to move the ball. I don't foresee another Iowa. I see a tough game with the team that wants it more winning.

I like Fitzgerald. Have for a long time. That said (and I've got some guys attacking me in another thread for daring criticize Jones), I think UT has a better coaching staff.
 
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I haven't seen charts that deem this an equal match up. All of the ones I've seen have UT favored.

But it is more than that. UT has an advantage in EVERY single match up.

This will be the slowest DL UT has faced all year... and not the biggest or most physical.

They have two good CB's but UT should be able to get match ups against their S's and LB's that kill them.

They have a good LB. He hasn't seen a RB this year as good as Hurd, Kamara, ... or even Dobbs except for McCaffrey. Remember Stanford for some mysterious reason barely gave McCaffrey any touches. If they had... that would have been a different game.

UT's front 6/7 should dominate their OL. They have neither the size nor athleticism to win that match up.

Their WR's can't catch. They're decent athletes. Jackson has gotten a lot of carries and yardage. He's a small back who is by no stretch as quick as Michel and several others UT has faced.

IMHO, the most dangerous player on their O is the QB. He can take off with it and throws fairly well... if someone could catch it. But UT's down 4 will probably pressure him on every throw. He hasn't performed well when pressured.
A Chucky Keaton clone....
 
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Hehe, wait! I saw this on TV the other night. Something about Newton's theory of gravity having it wrong, it's not the mass of the earth pulling you in, rather it's the weight of the warped space-time pushing you in. I kid you not, had never heard it explained that way before. :)

Sounds like the way Neil explains it.
 
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Huh?? Their signature win is much, much better than ours. I'm not all in on close calls.

Judging a team by one game is lazy if not pure negligence.

Toledo beat Arkansas.

Appalachian State beat Michigan.

Citadel beat South Carolina.

Virginia Tech beat Ohio State who went on to win the national championship. VA Tech was beat by WF, who was beat by USU, who was beat by UT, btw.
 
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Judging a team by one game is lazy if not pure negligence.

Agreed! First game of the season on the road against NU. You have no idea how well your offense is going to perform in the first game of the season. Also, if you are going to give them a quality win vs Stanford, you have to factor in the blowout losses to Michigan and Iowa.
 
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