OrangeEmpire
The White Debonair
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Has anyone notice a sort of reccurring pattern in the Nolan Batman movies? They both start out with Batman having a close relationship with someone, then that someone takes a backseat, Batman encounters what appears to be the main villain, but whom is in fact just a pawn or a set-up to another villain, who turns out to be that someone Batman once trusted. In BB, Batman/Bruce Wayne meets Henri Ducard, his mentor and teacher, goes back to Gotham, and encounters Scarecrow, but Scarecrow is just a pawn to Ra's al-Ghul, who is really none other than Bruce's old friend, Ducard. In TDK, Bruce meets Harvey Dent, whom he hopes will take over the mantle of Gotham's legitimate protector, so Batman is no longer needed. The Joker shows up, and his reign of terror begins. Then some people are killed whose deaths can't be pinned on the Joker, and it turns out Harvey Dent, now as Harvey Two-Face, is the killer. I think the next movie could loosely follow that same pattern:
The Penguin: He would seem like the main villain, but he'd really be just a set-up for the main villain. I like the idea of him being a mob boss/illegal arms dealer, using the Iceberg Lounge as a front for his operations. With Gotham's organized crime now following 'freaks' to take down the Batman, the 'freaks' need someone who can supply them with 'those wonderful toys' and costumes they use to rival Gotham's Dark Knight. With Ra's al-Ghul dead(?), Scarecrow needs a new source for his fear toxin. True, the League of Shadows still exists, maybe with a new Ra's, or Talia, in charge, but they could still use Penguin as a go-between.
I would initially think Bob Hoskins was too old, but too old for what? Fight scenes? Short and stocky as he is, the Penguin is no match for Batman. He'd just have his henchmen do his dirty work. The Penguin would also rely on the element of surprise, unveiling his hidden blade/gun in his umbrella, for deadly effect.
The Riddler: Would need some tweaking to fit into Nolan's universe but I think he could work. Nolan/Ledger did a brilliant job incorporating Joker's signature look into the film, changing some things to make it more real and credible, yet remaining true to the Joker's essence. I think Nolan could do the same with the Riddler. He just would not be the Riddler without the signature riddles and question-mark suit.
The Penguin: He would seem like the main villain, but he'd really be just a set-up for the main villain. I like the idea of him being a mob boss/illegal arms dealer, using the Iceberg Lounge as a front for his operations. With Gotham's organized crime now following 'freaks' to take down the Batman, the 'freaks' need someone who can supply them with 'those wonderful toys' and costumes they use to rival Gotham's Dark Knight. With Ra's al-Ghul dead(?), Scarecrow needs a new source for his fear toxin. True, the League of Shadows still exists, maybe with a new Ra's, or Talia, in charge, but they could still use Penguin as a go-between.
I would initially think Bob Hoskins was too old, but too old for what? Fight scenes? Short and stocky as he is, the Penguin is no match for Batman. He'd just have his henchmen do his dirty work. The Penguin would also rely on the element of surprise, unveiling his hidden blade/gun in his umbrella, for deadly effect.
The Riddler: Would need some tweaking to fit into Nolan's universe but I think he could work. Nolan/Ledger did a brilliant job incorporating Joker's signature look into the film, changing some things to make it more real and credible, yet remaining true to the Joker's essence. I think Nolan could do the same with the Riddler. He just would not be the Riddler without the signature riddles and question-mark suit.
