No videos of RBs??

[JettVol]

I get what you're saying.

However, If the starting CB gets hurt. The back up will come in.

Otherwise...according to your logic. The entire defense will have to change to accommodate the "next best player" getting on the field once a starter goes down

So Iron man football, basically if Jauan Jennings is the next best player we could see him at CB or Saftey?? Doubtful.

 

[Carson11]

Why does he not fit the system? I dont understand

I said he may not fit the system. I say that only because of the big power backs that they are recruiting. It seems pretty clear that TC will be our starter “this year” but he is not the size or style back that this staff is recruiting. There may be nothing to it. If you want to argue about it find someone else.... It was just an observation that myself and a few people from the mid state have discussed.

 

[VolEngineer]

I have no issue with this staff “cutting the fat” or making big changes with the players. My one concern is for Ty Chandler. This kid is a baller but may not fit “the system”. If TC gets put out and not used because of CJPs system, does that make him any different than CBJ? A coach who let a lot of talent stand on the side lines. If TC gets sidelined due to system, will it hurt mid state recruiting? IDK and I hope not, but everyone in the mid state knows TC is an absolute talent. We should hope CJP makes it a priority to find a way to utilize this kid. Ty Chandler is special....

I completely agree. Dude reminded me so much of kamara when Kelly was out during Kentucky. When he gets his chance he has and will shine.

 

[jakez4ut]

I’m not being argumentative, I’m just genuinely curious, what are you basing all this on?

pruitt talked about this in a presser on Saturday i think it was....basically he said if your left corner goes out, and your back up left corner is the 10th best player, why would you put the10th best player out there, and have #6-9 sit (at DB/Safety/nickel)? put #6 out there. it's about players, not plays.

basically, used that as a segway in to why they teach each position similarly as far as principles, and retention and versatility are a must if you're going to be a contributor on this team.

it's how he sees players adding value to themselves, and how you develop your roster faster, and how guys can see the field faster, even if they're not put in starting roles....opportunities will present.

 

[KBVol]

At least no Jalen Hurd videos of RB's running twice the speed of light on treadmill...which translated to 1.8 yards per carry...

Haha, well said.

Also, remember how we were also told that a GPS John Kelly wire during practice told us he was running 22-23 miles per hour......and then he runs 4.6 at his pro day. Lol. The last dude here was a PT Barnum type, a hype dude, a freaking carnival barker. I like how Pruitt is keeping his head down, keeping his cards close to his best and not constantly spewing peripheral, ancillary things out to the media all the time that have absolutely nothing to do with winning football games.

 

[TNnative]

Why does he not fit the system? I dont understand

Some think that because Pruitt is recruiting larger bodied backs that Chandler will be forced out even if he is one of the most talented backs we have on the roster. Some can't see the forest because they are looking at the trees.

 

[Caleb59seal]

pruitt talked about this in a presser on Saturday i think it was....basically he said if your left corner goes out, and your back up left corner is the 10th best player, why would you put the10th best player out there, and have #6-9 sit (at DB/Safety/nickel)? put #6 out there. it's about players, not plays.

basically, used that as a segway in to why they teach each position similarly as far as principles, and retention and versatility are a must if you're going to be a contributor on this team.

it's how he sees players adding value to themselves, and how you develop your roster faster, and how guys can see the field faster, even if they're not put in starting roles....opportunities will present.

Exactly.

 

[jakez4ut]

Some think that because Pruitt is recruiting larger bodied backs that Chandler will be forced out even if he is one of the most talented backs we have on the roster. Some can't see the forest because they are looking at the trees.

yep. but i think chandler will be fine. he's a physical runner, and supposedly has gotten a little bigger....

but Bama has used these kinds of backs before, TJ yeldon, and remember, Kamara was on the roster there.

and you got Jordan, Banks and Chandler. and they moved Fant to RB, so we'll see how that experiment plays out.

in the end, i think Chandler does just fine.

it's not something i'm worried about. i'm way more worried about the O line.

 

[LocoVol]

only video they have is them working on foot work and throwing motion!

 

[LittleVol]

yep. but i think chandler will be fine. he's a physical runner, and supposedly has gotten a little bigger....

but Bama has used these kinds of backs before, TJ yeldon, and remember, Kamara was on the roster there.

and you got Jordan, Banks and Chandler. and they moved Fant to RB, so we'll see how that experiment plays out.

in the end, i think Chandler does just fine.

it's not something i'm worried about. i'm way more worried about the O line.

I think offense is just as multiple as defense is these days.

Chandler and Fant are two guys that are versatile. Banks coming in as well. All 3 can lineup at Receiver and be a true threat there.

And I think Helton will try and get Chandler 15 touches a game or more. I'm not worried about him "starting". Because he and Callaway are our only threats offensively right now...

 

[jakez4ut]

I think offense is just as multiple as defense is these days.

Chandler and Fant are two guys that are versatile. Banks coming in as well. All 3 can lineup at Receiver and be a true threat there.

And I think Helton will try and get Chandler 15 touches a game or more. I'm not worried about him "starting". Because he and Callaway are our only threats offensively right now...

the only thing i would be concerned about with this stable of RB's is being a little predictable just based on personnel. and that's assuming a couple of these guys don't develop in to something more.

otherwise, i think you've got a good cross section of skill sets at RB. i'm excited to see Banks. i think Chandler is going to have moments this season that make us smile....he runs very physical, and has great speed...get him in to space.

i have no frame of reference on Fant. we'll find out later this week, i guess, if he's going to stick at RB.

still boils down to the O line for me.....

 

[DeerPark12]

Every update thus far has not included any video of our RBs individual periods.

To answer the actual question, the RBs now work on the far side of the field away from where the media observe and shoot video. You'd need a spy lens to get a clear shot of them.

Last few years, the RBs were right in front of the media viewing area and RG actually got a kick from having his guys nearly take out cameramen.

 

[LittleVol]

To answer the actual question, the RBs now work on the far side of the field away from where the media observe and shoot video. You'd need a spy lens to get a clear shot of them.

Last few years, the RBs were right in front of the media viewing area and RG actually got a kick from having his guys nearly take out cameramen.

Thank you

 

[dan4vols]

I have no issue with this staff “cutting the fat” or making big changes with the players. My one concern is for Ty Chandler. This kid is a baller but may not fit “the system”. If TC gets put out and not used because of CJPs system, does that make him any different than CBJ? A coach who let a lot of talent stand on the side lines. If TC gets sidelined due to system, will it hurt mid state recruiting? IDK and I hope not, but everyone in the mid state knows TC is an absolute talent. We should hope CJP makes it a priority to find a way to utilize this kid. Ty Chandler is special....

ok honest question, you've seen a good sample size of John Kelly...and your a Chandler fan. If you put John Kelly and Ty Chandler side by side in RB comparisons, in all the areas rb's are evaluated in which areas do you think Chandler is better-as good-or lesser? Because I have a pretty good idea what JK would look like running behind a will friend o-line with two TE's, I'm hoping Chandler will be as good.

 

[Carson11]

ok honest question, you've seen a good sample size of John Kelly...and your a Chandler fan. If you put John Kelly and Ty Chandler side by side in RB comparisons, in all the areas rb's are evaluated in which areas do you think Chandler is better-as good-or lesser? Because I have a pretty good idea what JK would look like running behind a will friend o-line with two TE's, I'm hoping Chandler will be as good.

Not sure why we are comparing these two but I will give it a go. Jon Kelly was an erratic bowling ball and very quick. Huge heart, ok hands but lacks speed. No way to judge him in the pass blocking because there were always multiple defenders making penetration into the backfield. Good back but short and slow.
I see TC as an all purpose back that does it all. He reminds me of Sony Michel. TC was a true freshman in a trash system. Same thing with pass blocking ability as JK. The one difference was TC speed. You can’t replace that. Put the ball in his hands and good things will happen.
I think by the time TC is a junior he will be much better than JK was as a junior. Assuming he doesn’t get injured. That being said TC will be in a much different system so we really won’t be able to compare the two. I think we will see TC actually play in the NFL before we see JK play in the NFL.
JK was a lot of fun to watch but he is short and slow. If you watch the combine workouts this year the analyst talk about how hard it is to get drafted when your short and slow as a running back. It truly hope he gets drafted and I have to say I was wrong.
Looking at recruiting it seems as though we are targeting the bigger backs. What 4 or 5 start RB are recruiting that are built like JK, TC, Or AK? TC is a true Sophmore and has at least two years before going pro. He will get bigger and stronger but he doesn’t seem to be what the future holds for this system and staff. JMO

 

[LittleVol]

the only thing i would be concerned about with this stable of RB's is being a little predictable just based on personnel. and that's assuming a couple of these guys don't develop in to something more.

otherwise, i think you've got a good cross section of skill sets at RB. i'm excited to see Banks. i think Chandler is going to have moments this season that make us smile....he runs very physical, and has great speed...get him in to space.

i have no frame of reference on Fant. we'll find out later this week, i guess, if he's going to stick at RB.

still boils down to the O line for me.....

I'm very anxious to see Fants development. Very naturally gifted. Needs to learn to be physical

Chandler is another( Berry, Patterson, Kamara) type threat.
As you said. Get him in space.

London will provide tough senior leadrship and hard running.

Banks imo is the overall most talented RB. Very underrated as a 4 star.

 

[HazMat]

Live Stream...

 

[dan4vols]

Not sure why we are comparing these two but I will give it a go. Jon Kelly was an erratic bowling ball and very quick. Huge heart, ok hands but lacks speed. No way to judge him in the pass blocking because there were always multiple defenders making penetration into the backfield. Good back but short and slow.
I see TC as an all purpose back that does it all. He reminds me of Sony Michel. TC was a true freshman in a trash system. Same thing with pass blocking ability as JK. The one difference was TC speed. You can’t replace that. Put the ball in his hands and good things will happen.
I think by the time TC is a junior he will be much better than JK was as a junior. Assuming he doesn’t get injured. That being said TC will be in a much different system so we really won’t be able to compare the two. I think we will see TC actually play in the NFL before we see JK play in the NFL.
JK was a lot of fun to watch but he is short and slow. If you watch the combine workouts this year the analyst talk about how hard it is to get drafted when your short and slow as a running back. It truly hope he gets drafted and I have to say I was wrong.
Looking at recruiting it seems as though we are targeting the bigger backs. What 4 or 5 start RB are recruiting that are built like JK, TC, Or AK? TC is a true Sophmore and has at least two years before going pro. He will get bigger and stronger but he doesn’t seem to be what the future holds for this system and staff. JMO

I asked for a comparison of those two backs because I have seen JK run, I don't recall ever seeing Chandler. It'd give me a clearer understanding , hopefully, of Chandlers abilities.

 

[Carson11]

I asked for a comparison of those two backs because I have seen JK run, I don't recall ever seeing Chandler. It'd give me a clearer understanding , hopefully, of Chandlers abilities.

Watch the Kentucky game and you can make your own opinion.

 

[Carson11]

Watch the Kentucky game and you can make your own opinion.

You can find it on you tube.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

I have no issue with this staff “cutting the fat” or making big changes with the players. My one concern is for Ty Chandler. This kid is a baller but may not fit “the system”. If TC gets put out and not used because of CJPs system, does that make him any different than CBJ? A coach who let a lot of talent stand on the side lines. If TC gets sidelined due to system, will it hurt mid state recruiting? IDK and I hope not, but everyone in the mid state knows TC is an absolute talent. We should hope CJP makes it a priority to find a way to utilize this kid. Ty Chandler is special....

He probably has the highest upside of any of the skill position players.

If Helton and Pruitt can't figure out how to use him, then whatever happens is on them.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

Probably no video of the RB's because they keep getting buried behind a makeshift O line.

 

[jasonvol18]

He probably has the highest upside of any of the skill position players.

If Helton and Pruitt can't figure out how to use him, then whatever happens is on them.

I have no doubt they will use Ty and be a big part of our offense. I'm betting him and either London or Banks make a great 1-2 combo. Don't think Ty is a 25 runs a game type RB and won't be the bruising, wear Defense's down type RB either. But he will be a 60+ yard TD waiting to happen with the ball in his hands.Don't think we will be seeing any more wasted type talent like we saw from the previous staff.

 

[jasonvol18]

Some think that because Pruitt is recruiting larger bodied backs that Chandler will be forced out even if he is one of the most talented backs we have on the roster. Some can't see the forest because they are looking at the trees.

Yea I've read numerous articles talking about this. Basically all were saying he's more of a spread type RB( Which I do not buy) and isn't the bruising 220 RB you can give the ball to 25 rush's a game. One even said he heard the staff wasn't as high on him for this offense, but kinda doubt any coach told any media member's that. Honestly can see the top 2 RB's getting similar type rush's and used like Chubb and Michel were at Ga. Obviously I have zero clue, but could see it being similar to how they were used by Chaney.