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I have read where many people believe Fulmer has a goal of exceeding Neyland's win record at UT. How much separates him from Neyland in total wins?

If I were a fan that did not like Fulmer's coaching and was an advocate for his eventual termination, then I would want him terminated before he breaks Gen Neyland's record, not after. Most everyone has walked in your shoes before, with one headcoach or another. It just seems that since Neyland is such a coaching legend at UT, the average fan would not want a coach they were ready to terminate break the record of a legendary coaching symbol. Right or wrong?
 
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AlligatorGar said:
I have read where many people believe Fulmer has a goal of exceeding Neyland's win record at UT. How much separates him from Neyland in total wins?

If I were a fan that did not like Fulmer's coaching and was an advocate for his eventual termination, then I would want him terminated before he breaks Gen Neyland's record, not after. Most everyone has walked in your shoes before, with one headcoach or another. It just seems that since Neyland is such a coaching legend at UT, the average fan would not want a coach they were ready to terminate break the record of a legendary coaching symbol. Right or wrong?
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I think he has 147 wins right now....He really wants to win 200 games, you do the math.

Far as records, I have seen way to many good running backs come out of UT for Arian to have the record. But, he will end up with this year.
 
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Neyland was 173-31-12
Fulmer is 147-45

That's a 26 win difference which means Fulmer would need to win 27 to get the record. Since 2003 we are averaging 8.8 wins per season. Round that to 9 and it will take 3 seasons for him to get that. But probably longer if the current trend towards mediocrity continues.
 
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govols182 said:
Neyland was 173-31-12
Fulmer is 147-45

That's a 26 win difference which means Fulmer would need to win 27 to get the record. Since 2003 we are averaging 8.8 wins per season. Round that to 9 and it will take 3 seasons for him to get that. But probably longer if the current trend towards mediocrity continues.
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Then the day FINALLY comes when the man that has drug us thru the mud since halftime of the 2001 SECCG steps down as the head coach of Tennessee and Hamilton Unveils his pet project. Neyland/Fulmer Stadium.:ill_h4h:
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Then the day FINALLY comes when the man that has drug us thru the mud since halftime of the 2001 SECCG steps down as the head coach of Tennessee and Hamilton Unveils his pet project. Neyland/Fulmer Stadium.:ill_h4h:
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If you have a big meltdown game at home against Alabama, have all your students and fans gather in front of the President's office that night. Have a huge demonstration appealing for his outster. I wouldn't even bother with your AD, who handed him the contract extensions. Go to the President. The President has the power to can them both.
 
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AlligatorGar said:
If you have a big meltdown game at home against Alabama, have all your students and fans gather in front of the President's office that night. Have a huge demonstration appealing for his outster. I wouldn't even bother with your AD, who handed him the contract extensions. Go to the President. The President has the power to can them both.
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There's probably nobody in the state of Tennessee who cares less about what the students think than the current UT president. Besides, he spends more time in Nashville than Knoxville anyway.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
There's probably nobody in the state of Tennessee who cares less about what the students think than the current UT president. Besides, he spends more time in Nashville than Knoxville anyway.
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He'll care when the AD starts losing money and the Scholarships have to be paid with University funds.
 
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Protest outside of Haslam's house...

Just make sure you run when you hear him yell "release the hounds."
 
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Phil must learn to adapt. He is not adapting through the games or season anymore. Remember when he was having Ainge split time with Schaeffer? He kept that going for more games than he should. Now he has a QB in Crompton that needs to be replaced and he won't budge on that decision.

Crompton has not made any advancements from when he started the game against LSU. He cracks under pressure, his record is abysmal. If Phil doesn't recognize his fault in having Crompton as his QB, and loses two more games, he deserves to be ousted.

I think Fulmer is a great coach, but needs to get his ducks in a row within the next month or he really will be finding a new job, or start retirement early.
 
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AlligatorGar said:
I have read where many people believe Fulmer has a goal of exceeding Neyland's win record at UT. How much separates him from Neyland in total wins?

If I were a fan that did not like Fulmer's coaching and was an advocate for his eventual termination, then I would want him terminated before he breaks Gen Neyland's record, not after. Most everyone has walked in your shoes before, with one headcoach or another. It just seems that since Neyland is such a coaching legend at UT, the average fan would not want a coach they were ready to terminate break the record of a legendary coaching symbol. Right or wrong?
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Here you go gator dude:

SEC coaches all time;

By era:
1. Robert Neyland,.. 173-31-12, .829,
Tennessee,......... 1926-1952

2. Bobby Dodd,...... 165-64-8, .713,
Georgia Tech,...... 1945-1966

3. Bear Bryant,..... 323-85-17, .780,
Kentucky/Alabama,.. 1945-1982

4. John Vaught,..... 190-61-12, .745,
Mississippi,....... 1947-1973

5. Vince Dooley,.... 201-77-10, .715,
Georgia,........... 1964-1988

6. Steve Spurrior,.. 163-56-2, .742
Duke/Florida/USC,.. 1989-2007

7. Phil Fulmer,..... 147-45-0, .766
Tennessee,......... 1992-2007

By total wins:
1. Bear Bryant,..... 323-85-17, .780,
Kentucky/Alabama,.. 1945-1982

2. Vince Dooley,.... 201-77-10, .715,
Georgia,........... 1964-1988

3. John Vaught,..... 190-61-12, .745,
Mississippi,....... 1947-1973

4. Robert Neyland,.. 173-31-12, .829,
Tennessee,......... 1926-1952

5. Bobby Dodd,...... 165-64-8, .713,
Georgia Tech,...... 1945-1966

6. Steve Spurrior,.. 163-56-2, .742
Duke/Florida/USC,...1989-2007

7. Phil Fulmer,..... 147-45-0, .766
Tennessee,......... 1992-2007

By winning percentage:

1. Robert Neyland,.. 173-31-12, .829,
Tennessee,......... 1926-1952

2. Bear Bryant,..... 323-85-17, .780,
Kentucky/Alabama,.. 1945-1982

3. Phil Fulmer,..... 147-45-0, .766
Tennessee,......... 1992-2007

4. John Vaught,..... 190-61-12, .745,
Mississippi,....... 1947-1973

5. Steve Spurrior,.. 163-56-2, .740
Duke/Florida/USC,...1989-2007

6. Vince Dooley,.... 201-77-10, .715,
Georgia,........... 1964-1988

7. Bobby Dodd,...... 165-64-8, .713,
Georgia Tech,...... 1945-1966

Number of wins minus losses for top SEC HCs:
(not counting any ties)
1. Bryant.... 238
2. Neyland... 142
3. Dooley.... 134
4. Vaught.... 129
5. Spurrier.. 107
6. Fulmer.... 102
7. Dodd...... 101

Fulmer sure as all hell deserves one hell of a lot more support from Tennessee fans than he is currently getting.

Fulmer highlights:

Highest winning percentage of any Div-1 coach with ten years experience.

Fulmer joined an elite coaching list in 2007 when his career record improved to 100 games over the .500 mark. Currently 147-45, Fulmer joins Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, Jim Tressel, Steve Spurrier, Chris Ault and Frank Beamer as the only active coaches in that fraternity.

And Fulmer’s 16 seasons of coaching are the fewest of the seven owning that distinction. (actually 15 and 1/3 seasons)

Fulmer and Nebraska legend Tom Osborne are the only coaches to lead a team to a bowl game in their first 13 years of coaching.

Fulmer's winning percentage vs SEC teams is .762.

Reached 50, 75 and 100 wins quicker than any other SEC HC ever.

Seventh in all time wins by any SEC coach in history.

Has nine 10 or more win seasons in 15 full seasons .667 per cent lifetime.

Two other seasons saw 9 wins, has won 9 or more games .733 or about 3/4 of all seasons.

Has won eastern division of SEC in 1993, 1997, 1998, 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2007, or .467, nearly every other year.

Has won an average of 9.5 games over the last decade
and the eastern division of the SEC 5 times or .500 percent.

A record of 45-5 from 1995-98, the most victories over a
four-year span in school history.

Fifteen first-round NFL selections since 1993 and a total of 90 players selected overall. The Vols have had the most players on opening-day NFL rosters each of the last two seasons and the team’s five first-day 2007
NFL Draft picks were the most of any school.

Since 1996, Tennessee ranks first in the SEC and third nationally with 69 total players drafted, and the Vols have had 13 NFL first-round selections since 1993.

A former Volunteer has played in every NFL Super Bowl since 1992.

Each of the last two seasons, Tennessee has led the SEC in Fall Academic Honor Roll recipients.

Played in 13 January bowl games, .867 per cent.

Won .571 per cent of games vs nationally ranked opponents.

Won .840 per cent of all games played in Neyland.

Winner of the prestigious Eddie Robinson National Coach of Distinction Award.
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Tennessee enjoying 2nd best start to decade in 50 years -
1. 1990-1997 win % .795

2. 2000-2007 win % .696

3. 1970-1977 win % .680

4. 1980-1987 win % .640

5. 1960-1967 win % .632

Now is the day of fantasy football, fans can't distinguish between reality and nintendo!!!!!!
 
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Every coach and player reaches a point in their career when then need to go to the rocking chair. Phil has reached that point.

Let's look at all Michael Jordan's stats and get him back on the court.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but statistics are for losers -- scoreboard baby!!
 
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I agree that Phil needs to step down. However Hamilton needs to make sure this is handled properly. It does NOT need to go down the same way Majors was fired. It needs to be done with dignity and respect. It needs to at least APPEAR as if Phil is leaving on his own terms. He has certainly earned that right!

Regardless of how you feel about Fulmer right now, there is no denying the fact that he has been an enormous positive for Tennessee over the years. His decline over the past few years does not need to overshadow the great legacy he leaves behind with this program. When his time is finally finished, he needs to be looked back on fondly and not with resentment.

I agree that it IS Phil's time to go but there are some things bigger and more important than simple wins and losses.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I agree that Phil needs to step down. However Hamilton needs to make sure this is handled properly. It does NOT need to go down the same way Majors was fired. It needs to be done with dignity and respect. It needs to at least APPEAR as if Phil is leaving on his own terms. He has certainly earned that right!

Regardless of how you feel about Fulmer right now, there is no denying the fact that he has been an enormous positive for Tennessee over the years. His decline over the past few years does not need to overshadow the great legacy he leaves behind with this program. When his time is finally finished, he needs to be looked back on fondly and not with resentment.

I agree that it IS Phil's time to go. But there are somethings more important that simple wins and losses.
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There is no way that it will end this way if Phil is forced out. He will not step down and will go down swinging, no matter how many more games he loses, he will always think that he is the best option for UT
 
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BearCat204 said:
There is no way that it will end this way if Phil is forced out. He will not step down and will go down swinging, no matter how many more games he loses, he will always think that he is the best option for UT
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Honestly, I don't think there's any way we can know that for sure. Fulmer may see things a bit different if we end up 4-8 on the season and no bowl bid.

If Mike Hamilton sets Phil down at the end of the season and says "look, my hands are tied here. I have no choice but to make a change but we are going to do everything in our power to make this look like it was on your terms." I have a feeling that Fulmer will relent.
 
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