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VolBeef88

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Whats the talk on it so far? I read some early on with quotes from Cut but is has sure been quiet of late.
 
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I'd say everything will be quiet til fall practice starts, with no official practice going on there is really nothing to report.....although I'm sure the QBs and WRs are doing some timing work on their own, it's nothing we are going to hear about.
 
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We saw a great deal of it in the Spring game. But with Ainge out, I don't think as much was done as Cut would've liked. I think we'll see more of it than than novelty time as some seem to expect...
 
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I just don't think the defense is deep enough for the staff to use the no-huddle liberally. My guess is that it will be used in limited situations to exploit mismatches.
 
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I think there are other areas of the field we can improve on instead of working a no huddle.

Tackling
Run blocks
D
O
ect.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I just don't think the defense is deep enough for the staff to use the no-huddle liberally. My guess is that it will be used in limited situations to exploit mismatches.
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I think we may see it a lot more than some think. It will not be a hurry up no huddle. It will be more in the mold of the Colts. They will go to the line and receive the plays instead of going to the huddle. This will make it difficult for the D to sub in and out and will allow for mismatches. If they try to sub it will result in a quick snap and 5 free ones. I'm actually pretty excited about it. We will still run the ball a lot depending on the defensive personnel
 
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If it works it's brilliant. If it doesn't the defense will be sucking wind early in the 3rd. One of those wait and see things, but I am glad something new/different is being bandied about.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
If it works it's brilliant. If it doesn't the defense will be sucking wind early in the 3rd. One of those wait and see things, but I am glad something new/different is being bandied about.
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If you watch the way the Colts run it, they use most of the play clock on each down. I don't think it will use the D up much faster than going to the huddle. The real question is can the O line stay that long in stance? If they can then the D should be fine. Plus we will run the ball. I really like it.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I'll have to try and watch some Colts game replays to get a sense for it.
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I think you will like it. Many times PM won't snap the ball until about a second or 2 is left. It allows them to keep the opposing D on the field without rest or subs for field position defense. Like say it's 3 and long and the D had more of a run stop D on the field it will allow the offense to dictate the subs. If they try to sub a qick snap will make it a 3 and short. It is really a good offensive plan. The question will be, can we do it. EA is a good qb but PM he is not. I think he can handle it, I'm more worried about the Oline and the WR's.
 
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The Colts use it with one of the smartest QBs ever, that helps. I think it is a unnecessary addition to our O. Lets Block better.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I just don't think the defense is deep enough for the staff to use the no-huddle liberally. My guess is that it will be used in limited situations to exploit mismatches.
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i think that's the intention to begin with, if not to also create mismatches.....it'll be interesting to see how this is utilized thruout the season......
orange+white=heaven said:
We saw a great deal of it in the Spring game. But with Ainge out, I don't think as much was done as Cut would've liked. I think we'll see more of it than than novelty time as some seem to expect...
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agreed. I have a feeling that after the summer workouts and the WRs have had a chance to work with Ainge a little bit, they probably will work on it more during fall camp.......
 
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Fine Vol said:
The Colts use it with one of the smartest QBs ever, that helps. I think it is a unnecessary addition to our O. Lets Block better.
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Did you notice that we used a variation of the no huddle A LOT during Ainge's freshman year?
 
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Bingo! If we go from an I-formation set, to a 5-wide set w/o breaking a huddle, our opposing DC is going to have fits w/o making substitutions. DC has learned a few things from Charlie Weiss. While Weiss didn't necessarily utilize the no huddle, he was a master at mixing up plays that called for opposing defensive philosophies on consecutive snaps. This makes defenses very tired and confused. If you can rack up points and get a few defensive stops against them, you will win the mental war quickly. :dance2:

If anything, you can get a few easy scores before the opposing defense comes up with something to adjust. We went to it against GA in the second 1/2 last year and they never recovered despite all our misques on special teams, etc.

VolBeef88 said:
I think we may see it a lot more than some think. It will not be a hurry up no huddle. It will be more in the mold of the Colts. They will go to the line and receive the plays instead of going to the huddle. This will make it difficult for the D to sub in and out and will allow for mismatches. If they try to sub it will result in a quick snap and 5 free ones. I'm actually pretty excited about it. We will still run the ball a lot depending on the defensive personnel
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I'll have to try and watch some Colts game replays to get a sense for it.
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If you do, you'll notice that the Colts still use quite a bit (nearly all) of the play clock. Our defense won't be sucking wind as a result of the no-huddle offense (unless of course we can't pick up first downs).
 
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kptvol said:
If you do, you'll notice that the Colts still use quite a bit (nearly all) of the play clock. Our defense won't be sucking wind as a result of the no-huddle offense (unless of course we can't pick up first downs).
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kptvol said:
If you do, you'll notice that the Colts still use quite a bit (nearly all) of the play clock. Our defense won't be sucking wind as a result of the no-huddle offense (unless of course we can't pick up first downs).
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That is what I talked about earlier. When I first heard about going no huddle I didn't like it. But when I found out it wasn't the HUNH I warmed up quite a bit. Now the more thought I put into it the more I like it.
 
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GAVol said:
Did you notice that we used a variation of the no huddle A LOT during Ainge's freshman year?
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The difference being that at that time, it was used more as a way for the plays to be called from the sideline. We don't really know how this is going to go, but I get the sense that the idea this time around is for EA to make the adjustments himself. Again, ala Manning and his Colts...
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
The difference being that at the time, it was used more as a way for the plays yo be called from the sideline. We don't really know how this is going to go, but I get the sense that the idea this time around is for EA to make the adjustments himself. Again, ala Manning and his Colts...
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as a SR qb, i would hope that would be the case. if he's having to revert back to the the 04 version of this, as you described, we are woefully overrating Eric Ainge.
 
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kptvol said:
I really wished we'd just gone back to doing that while Erik was in the game during the 2005 season.
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Honestly, and I don't know if you remember watching it in '04, I was glad to see it go back then. It just felt... cumbersome.
Everybody would get set, then stop, and the whole team would look to the sidelines for the call. I really did not care for that incarnation of no huddle. Too hard to build momentum in a drive was the way it felt to me while watching it...
 
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