No huddle = no advantage

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Alchovol

Alchovol

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Did anyone else think we wasted the advantage of the no huddle by taking 21 seconds of the 25 on the play clock to decide what we were going to do?
 
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Alchovol said:
Did anyone else think we wasted the advantage of the no huddle by taking 21 seconds of the 25 on the play clock to decide what we were going to do?
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That's exactly how the World Champion Indianapolis Colts run the no-huddle. That's how it's supposed to be run.
 
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Alchovol said:
Did anyone else think we wasted the advantage of the no huddle by taking 21 seconds of the 25 on the play clock to decide what we were going to do?
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exactly, if your running no huddle then get in there and keep the plays going, when you go no huddle and waste 21 seconds all it does is kill the momentum of the last play, which is a key component of a no huddle offense, to keep the momentum going
 
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I think it's immaterial.

The advantage of disallowing the D from rotating players was kept because the D doesn't know when the snap is coming.

Had we sped it up any, our D might have given up 75 tonight.
 
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Yeah I don't see the point of the no huddle if you aren't going to utilize what it has to offer. Is it supposed to give us an advantage by "seeing what the defense does"?

Seemed more foolish than anything considering it spread out runningbacks as a part of our 4 and 5 wide sets instead of the Wide Receivers that desperately need game experience. Foster, Hardesty, or any tight end aren't going to run the routes that the receivers are.
 
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i don't think is so much a time factor as it is an attempt to limit defensive situational substitutions.

still not sure how effective it was.
personally i would rather do the huddle.
 
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kptvol said:
That's exactly how the World Champion Indianapolis Colts run the no-huddle. That's how it's supposed to be run.
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The no-huddle was probably the only bright spot until we got all pass happy and predictable anyway.
 
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ruavol2000 said:
exactly, if your running no huddle then get in there and keep the plays going, when you go no huddle and waste 21 seconds all it does is kill the momentum of the last play, which is a key component of a no huddle offense, to keep the momentum going
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There is a difference between the no huddle and a 2 minute hurry up. You saw what the no huddle was supposed to do tonight.
 
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We were seeing what the defense was doing just fine -- We just didn't have the skill or speed to beat it.
 
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NationofVols said:
Yeah I don't see the point of the no huddle if you aren't going to utilize what it has to offer. Is it supposed to give us an advantage by "seeing what the defense does"?

Seemed more foolish than anything considering it spread out runningbacks as a part of our 4 and 5 wide sets instead of the Wide Receivers that desperately need game experience. Foster, Hardesty, or any tight end aren't going to run the routes that the receivers are.
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The point of the no-huddle is that it gets your offense to the line quickly so your Senior QB can read the defense and make adjustments. It's not meant to speed up the game.
 
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kptvol said:
The point of the no-huddle is that it gets your offense to the line quickly so your Senior QB can read the defense and make adjustments. It's not meant to speed up the game.
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exactly... our no huddle worked just fine... EA stepped to the offensive line before lookin at the sidelines for calls... so that did make the defense in the field mosta times...

but wat i don know is how much of play callin did EA actually get to do? it was earlier discussed that EA will call his own plays at times... if so y did he not have the trust on his WR and call one long play?
 
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Alchovol said:
Did anyone else think we wasted the advantage of the no huddle by taking 21 seconds of the 25 on the play clock to decide what we were going to do?
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No. Where we wasted the advantage of the no huddle was by having our brilliant coaching staff repeatedly broadcast the entire offseason that we were going to employ a no-huddle offense this season. Our coaches are absolute morons!
 
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Vol423 said:
No. Where we wasted the advantage of the no huddle was by having our brilliant coaching staff repeatedly broadcast the entire offseason that we were going to employ a no-huddle offense this season. Our coaches are absolute morons!
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our coaches also said we didn't plan on employing it full strength at Cal..that we would show it some there...and then phase it in for the Florida game. Cal knowing we might be running that no huddle had little to no impact on tonight's game.
 
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there didn't seem to be as many, if any at all, delay of game/false start penalties tonight as there have been in the past.
 
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Vol423 said:
No. Where we wasted the advantage of the no huddle was by having our brilliant coaching staff repeatedly broadcast the entire offseason that we were going to employ a no-huddle offense this season. Our coaches are absolute morons!
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Uhhh....what?

The beauty of the no-huddle is that you have a multi-dimensional personnel group out on the field. That way, no matter what the defense does, the offense can re-align and audible. If the defense has 6 DBs out there, it's not tough to switch into a more run-oriented formation and hammer them. If they have 5 DLs and 3 LBs, spread the field and pass it.
 
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TennTradition said:
I was only annoyed by Luke Stocker's crazy offsides.....that was a good part of our game...
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that was a HUGE play. The running game was rolling at the time and that penalty pushed us back to force the passing game. That play killed the momentum.
 
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kptvol said:
That's exactly how the World Champion Indianapolis Colts run the no-huddle. That's how it's supposed to be run.
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Great comparison. A college team running the no huddle for the first time versus one of the greatest QB's in the history of football and the Super Bowl Champions.
 
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NationofVols said:
Great comparison. A college team running the no huddle for the first time versus one of the greatest QB's in the history of football and the Super Bowl Champions.
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It is a great comparison. We ran it in the same manner as the best team in football runs it. That's how you'd want to do it. We ran a textbook no huddle offense tonight. If you don't get that, I'd recommend buying Football for Dummies.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I was VERY impressed with our no-huddle offense VERY impressed.
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Amen. The no huddle is quite possibly the best thing that Cut has done since he returned. Towards the end of the third when we was running as much as passing the D-line of Cal was getting tired from lack of substitutions. If the game would have stayed close i could see Foster racking up 150 or 160 yards. I heard on the radio before the game that every skilled player can play any skilled position on the field. That flexability would make any coach drool. And as long as Foster keeps making runs like his one for his TD catch he can line up wherever the crap he wants and i will not care. If we can find a WR with big play potential this could be the best offense since Peyton left.:good!:
 
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kptvol said:
It is a great comparison. We ran it in the same manner as the best team in football runs it. That's how you'd want to do it. We ran a textbook no huddle offense tonight. If you don't get that, I'd recommend buying Football for Dummies.
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No, it's a stupid comparison to try to say we ran it as well as the best team in football. Perhaps if you don't get that, I'll send you a copy of that book you're so fond of.

Running it WELL is one thing. Running it like the COLTS run it is another. There is NO comparison. You may as well say that every team that runs the no huddle runs it that well then....

You compared the Vols that you think suck so bad to the World Champions.....and that doesn't sound odd to you?
 
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