NIL $$$$.....a drop in the bucket??

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I dont know, so Im gonna ask.
It would be tough to get a real total number of how much is coming in!
Do private Universities, Vandy, ND, etc have to report anything??
How much of the areas below are reported, how much they brought it and where did it go?
Especially the Private Donations.........that has to be huge for some schools.
Does ALL this get divided by all Athletics at a University.........Baseball, Basketball??
And how doe Title IX play into all this??


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wait, you hate capitalism?

The problem is Notre Dame would have been given $12M from the CFP even if they went 0-12. If Notre Dame isn't going to be in a conference and the can benefit exponentially more than everyone else by making it into the playoff then how much should they earn if they don't make it? Granted that is the low end of the range for payouts to P4 conference teams but they do get to have it both ways in a way no one else does for a making a deep run. Notre Dame is getting to have it's cake and eat it too -- along with a bottle of Cristal. Slive and co. got duped by ND big time.
 
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The thing I would like to know, and it’s probably not available, is what our whole NIL structure looks like. Starters vs backups, 5 star vs 4 star, position by position. Obviously you have to be flexible within that structure, but there has to be a plan based on the $ available. When revenue sharing starts, I’m betting everyone gets exactly the same or close to it, and NIL goes to the most important players to supplement beyond that. It’s a fascinating exercise.
 
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The problem is Notre Dame would have been given $12M from the CFP even if they went 0-12. If Notre Dame isn't going to be in a conference and the can benefit exponentially more than everyone else by making it into the playoff then how much should they earn if they don't make it? Granted that is the low end of the range for payouts to P4 conference teams but they do get to have it both ways in a way no one else does for a making a deep run. Notre Dame is getting to have it's cake and eat it too -- along with a bottle of Cristal. Slive and co. got duped by ND big time.
ND has never been in a football conference.
 
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The problem is Notre Dame would have been given $12M from the CFP even if they went 0-12. If Notre Dame isn't going to be in a conference and the can benefit exponentially more than everyone else by making it into the playoff then how much should they earn if they don't make it? Granted that is the low end of the range for payouts to P4 conference teams but they do get to have it both ways in a way no one else does for a making a deep run. Notre Dame is getting to have it's cake and eat it too -- along with a bottle of Cristal. Slive and co. got duped by ND big time.
Did you know, everyone gets a guaranteed amount even if they go 0-12?

SEC/B1G schools get 21m each.
ACC schools get 13m each.
B12/ND get 12m each
Group of 5 get <2m each.

That’s before money paid for appearances, which go back to the conferences and distribution may vary.
 
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Did you know, everyone gets a guaranteed amount even if they go 0-12?

SEC/B1G schools get 21m each.
ACC schools get 13m each.
B12/ND get 12m each
Group of 5 get <2m each.

That’s before money paid for appearances, which go back to the conferences and distribution may vary.

Yes, I'm aware. But no one else is allowed to keep extra playoff money earned all to themselves.
 
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The thing I would like to know, and it’s probably not available, is what our whole NIL structure looks like. Starters vs backups, 5 star vs 4 star, position by position. Obviously you have to be flexible within that structure, but there has to be a plan based on the $ available. When revenue sharing starts, I’m betting everyone gets exactly the same or close to it, and NIL goes to the most important players to supplement beyond that. It’s a fascinating exercise.
I wonder when donor fatigue will set in. These are 18 year old kids who had a good high school run but may totally fade in D1 play. It happens all the time. The demand for NIL is a gaping black hole there can never be enough of. If I'm a millionaire donor, I'm gonna get tired of putting a lot of cash on the table for players that don't amount to anything. There are better places to put my money.
 
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I wonder when donor fatigue will set in. These are 18 year old kids who had a good high school run but may totally fade in D1 play. It happens all the time. The demand for NIL is a gaping black hole there can never be enough of. If I'm a millionaire donor, I'm gonna get tired of putting a lot of cash on the table for players that don't amount to anything. There are better places to put my money.
Add to that the issue with paying a young player with hopes that he stays and develops in your program and then he takes the money and runs to a higher bidder after one or two years. Or he turns into a stud after one year and leaves for more money or holds the school hostage for more money. Gonna get tired of that too. As we’ve seen, there are schools with deeper pockets who are going to pay more. (Oregon, OSU, etc)
 
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wait, you hate capitalism?
It really doesn't have anything to do with capitalism. Notre Dame doesn't belong to a conference. The two teams that make it to the championship game get twenty million dollars. The money is to be divided equally between all the teams in the conference they represent. Notre Dame got twenty million dollars and have to share it with??? No one. That's a big chunk of money going into their budget.
 
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The problem is Notre Dame would have been given $12M from the CFP even if they went 0-12. If Notre Dame isn't going to be in a conference and the can benefit exponentially more than everyone else by making it into the playoff then how much should they earn if they don't make it? Granted that is the low end of the range for payouts to P4 conference teams but they do get to have it both ways in a way no one else does for a making a deep run. Notre Dame is getting to have it's cake and eat it too -- along with a bottle of Cristal. Slive and co. got duped by ND big time.
Mike Slive has been dead for 6 or 7 years.
 
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notre dame needs to be forced to join a conference because they don't have to share any money with anyone and thats ridiculous
You don't force Notre Dame to join a conference but what the elite D1 teams should do is stop scheduling them.

Their strength of schedule would drop if the B1G, SEC, and ACC would snub them. The conferences need to play hardball and boycott them until they pick a conference.

ND lacks the support of a conference so if they get shunned and not scheduled they can't "tit for tat" and not schedule another team in the conference or buy out of another game or whatever.

Let them rot out there playing non-P4 teams.
 
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You don't force Notre Dame to join a conference but what the elite D1 teams should do is stop scheduling them.

Their strength of schedule would drop if the B1G, SEC, and ACC would snub them. The conferences need to play hardball and boycott them until they pick a conference.

ND lacks the support of a conference so if they get shunned and not scheduled they can't "tit for tat" and not schedule another team in the conference or buy out of another game or whatever.

Let them rot out there playing non-P4 teams.

True, but they already have the agreement with the ACC to play what, like 4 games a year?

Not sure when that expires, but sure-I'm down for the Domers to never see another P4 opponent after that.
 
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You don't force Notre Dame to join a conference but what the elite D1 teams should do is stop scheduling them.

Their strength of schedule would drop if the B1G, SEC, and ACC would snub them. The conferences need to play hardball and boycott them until they pick a conference.

ND lacks the support of a conference so if they get shunned and not scheduled they can't "tit for tat" and not schedule another team in the conference or buy out of another game or whatever.

Let them rot out there playing non-P4 teams.
I agree with that. Allowing ND to claim the 80’s-90 model that is broken and outdated needs refining. The college format has changed drastically multiple times but they get preferential treatment. Put them in the Big 10 for logistics and call it a day.
 
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True, but they already have the agreement with the ACC to play what, like 4 games a year?

Not sure when that expires, but sure-I'm down for the Domers to never see another P4 opponent after that.
Typically they play 5 ACC games per year.
They occasionally play a 6th.
 

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