NFL Prospects for 2009 draft

#77
#77
All I want to see is Berry play with Mayo when his draft date comes up..That's not asking alot is it? :)
 
#78
#78
Lockdown1 said:
That's his biggest problem. Also I can blame the secondary coach for that.

I was speaking with a buddy of mine and we were discussing our safeties. I said if Saban was coaching Morley and Berry we would be the best defensive team in America. He would have Morley so in tune wih the game that Berry would be free to roam. He's done more with two walk-ons than our coaches have done with two five stars. Our coaches just put them out there and tells them to go make plays.
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I am not going to make any claims that Slade is some great secondary coach. But here we go again blaiming him for Morley's struggles. Slade is coaching Berry right, or am I mistaken? Much more of their ability to perform on Saturday comes from their ability to learn and adapt that learning at game speed. Morley just does not have it between the ears to learn it. He also lacks the intincts, which cannot be taught. I would bet good money that even if Saban was Morley's coach he would still have the same faults.
 
#79
#79
therickbol said:
I am not going to make any claims that Slade is some great secondary coach. But here we go again blaiming him for Morley's struggles. Slade is coaching Berry right, or am I mistaken? Much more of their ability to perform on Saturday comes from their ability to learn and adapt that learning at game speed. Morley just does not have it between the ears to learn it. He also lacks the intincts, which cannot be taught. I would bet good money that even if Saban was Morley's coach he would still have the same faults.
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Saban has made Justin Woodall into a serviceable player. And frankly anybody could be coaching Berry and he would be successful. Its not hard to coach the great players.
 
#80
#80
myrobbins7 said:
All I want to see is Berry play with Mayo when his draft date comes up..That's not asking alot is it? :)
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Thank God they won't draft that high. However, Berry is almost worth Indy tanking next year just to draft him...almost....

he'll probably get stuck someplace like Detroit or Cincy
 
#81
#81
wfordiii said:
Thank God they won't draft that high. However, Berry is almost worth Indy tanking next year just to draft him...almost....

he'll probably get stuck someplace like Detroit or Cincy
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I'm not even a niner fan but he would look good over there. Would like to see him in Green Bay though.:)
 
#84
#84
if they come back for another year and upgrade their game. If they leave this year, none has a chance of being taken on the first day. They may leave because of the coaching change. Too bad.
 
#86
#86
Lockdown1 said:
Saban has made Justin Woodall into a serviceable player. And frankly anybody could be coaching Berry and he would be successful. Its not hard to coach the great players.
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So now we are using the word servicable? Well, Morley is already a "servicable" player. The point was that Berry is being taught the same things that Morleys is about lining up properly and being where you are suppose to be at certain times. Berry takes that coaching and he is where he is suppose to be. Morley is not, even though he is being instructed exactly the same as Berry.
 
#87
#87
therickbol said:
Arian draft status has certainly dropped this season. But he has not fallen to the point that he will not get drafted. You have to remember that NFL scouts (whether we agree or not) think much more of Arian Foster than the typical Vols fan.
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I agree. Foster will get drafted. It will be lower than it would have been if he had left last year, but he'll get drafted. The combine will have a big effect on what round he'll fall.

Isn't it ironic that Arian would have been better off leaving early last year, but yet the team would have been better off as well.
 
#88
#88
therickbol said:
So now we are using the word servicable? Well, Morley is already a "servicable" player. The point was that Berry is being taught the same things that Morleys is about lining up properly and being where you are suppose to be at certain times. Berry takes that coaching and he is where he is suppose to be. Morley is not, even though he is being instructed exactly the same as Berry.
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Not that hard to tell them where to line up. Morley's play is enigmatic not serviceable. Woodall doesn't really have pro potential but Saban has him playing at a higher level than Morley. They're secondary is playing as good as ours with less athletes. That's coaching. You can't tell me Justin Woodall is a better athlete than Demtrice Morley.
 
#89
#89
Lockdown1 said:
That's his biggest problem. Also I can blame the secondary coach for that.

I was speaking with a buddy of mine and we were discussing our safeties. I said if Saban was coaching Morley and Berry we would be the best defensive team in America. He would have Morley so in tune wih the game that Berry would be free to roam. He's done more with two walk-ons than our coaches have done with two five stars. Our coaches just put them out there and tells them to go make plays.
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That's just plain wrong.
 
#90
#90
Lockdown1 said:
Not that hard to tell them where to line up. Morley's play is enigmatic not serviceable. Woodall doesn't really have pro potential but Saban has him playing at a higher level than Morley. They're secondary is playing as good as ours with less athletes. That's coaching. You can't tell me Justin Woodall is a better athlete than Demtrice Morley.
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How is their secondary playing better than ours? We're ranked higher in passing defense, passing defense efficiency and interceptions.
 
#92
#92
3rd in the country in Int's isn't making big plays as a whole?

They've played one team with even a mediocre quarterback- Georgia.
 
#93
#93
UTLCA said:
3rd in the country in Int's isn't making big plays as a whole?

They've played one team with even a mediocre quarterback- Georgia.
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Berry is an all-american so that makes up for a lot of things. But Willingham is playing terrible and that downgrades our secondary's performance.
 
#95
#95
Lockdown1 said:
Not that hard to tell them where to line up. Morley's play is enigmatic not serviceable. Woodall doesn't really have pro potential but Saban has him playing at a higher level than Morley. They're secondary is playing as good as ours with less athletes. That's coaching. You can't tell me Justin Woodall is a better athlete than Demtrice Morley.
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That is exactly what I am talking about. The only thing you keep addressing is athletic ability. As if that is the only thing that matters. Woodall does not have to be a better athlete to be a better safety than Morley. He has to have a much better mental grasp of what is going on and better instincts. That is not the coaches fault that Morley does not have that.

Then you go and claim that Alabama has a better secondary even though all the evidence points otherwise. Then your reasoning is because "they make plays." Ok, yeah, that makes sense.
 
#96
#96
therickbol said:
That is exactly what I am talking about. The only thing you keep addressing is athletic ability. As if that is the only thing that matters. Woodall does not have to be a better athlete to be a better safety than Morley. He has to have a much better mental grasp of what is going on and better instincts. That is not the coaches fault that Morley does not have that.

Then you go and claim that Alabama has a better secondary even though all the evidence points otherwise. Then your reasoning is because "they make plays." Ok, yeah, that makes sense.
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There's no winning with you. Their secondary is playing better than ours as a whole. They understand the game better as a whole. Not just at one position. Berry and Rogan are playing at very high level right now. But the rest of the stating secondary is underwhelming. Wouldn't mind seeing Prentiss Wagner getting some time. He was probably the best athlete of last year's recruiting class. He made plays in fall camp and I would like to see if he could take Morley's spot in the lineup. Even if he couldn't the competition would light a fire under Morley to play better.
 
#97
#97
Hey we agree on something. I too would like to see Prentiss Wagner get some time. Along with Art Evans.
 
#98
#98
therickbol said:
Hey we agree on something. I too would like to see Prentiss Wagner get some time. Along with Art Evans.
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Its not asking too much. They were raving that he was being a big time player in fall camp then we don't hear from him again. Let him block some punts or something.
 
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