New statues going up

#127
#127
Franklin_Vol09 said:
Can we have a statue honoring this first Asian player, Hispanic, Pacific Islander, Native American, Polish, German etc...(sarcasm)

I’m tired of the racial categories. People are people and should be honored based upon their accomplishments. We have gone backwards as a society in our attempts to be woke.
Just my 2¢.
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I am sure there have been several players of Melungeon descent since this is Appalachia and they were shunned before slaves ever came to this country. Where is their statute? The Chavis surname is prominent amongst them.

What about Polynesian? Jesse Mahalona?
 
#129
#129
voltnh said:
Sick of this equity nonsense. These guys deserve to be honored on the merits of being great football players.
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Maybe you should be grateful that you’ve never had to endure the things that marginalized groups have had to endure. Since you can’t even endure their recognition.

Rest assured, if these men were as weak and pathetic as you, they’d never have accomplished enough to merit this honor. Fortunately, they’re better than you.
 
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This is where we are now. It is not allowed to either gush over the woke movement, nor is it allowed to complain about it either. It is quite simply not really allowed these days to express much of any opinion. And that is the real loss of this whole thing. More divided now than 1965 in many ways. Congrats whoever is the driving force behind stirring this turmoil
Oh, and I am well aware that depending on your own stance, I will get smacked down for posting even this note wishing for better times with less tension.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Maybe you should be grateful that you’ve never had to endure the things that marginalized groups have had to endure. Since you can’t even endure their recognition.

Rest assured, if these men were as weak and pathetic as you, they’d never have accomplished enough to merit this honor. Fortunately, they’re better than you.
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I heard Condredge on the radio this afternoon stating that he did not see things this way. He thought of his role as a teammate and performing and making the right plays. He acted like breaking the barrier was more of what other people talked about. He said that he never thought about it until they started bringing it up.
 
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HiltonHeadVol said:
This is where we are now. It is not allowed to either gush over the woke movement, nor is it allowed to complain about it either. It is quite simply not really allowed these days to express much of any opinion. And that is the real loss of this whole thing. More divided now than 1965 in many ways. Congrats whoever is the driving force behind stirring this turmoil
Oh, and I am well aware that depending on your own stance, I will get smacked down for posting even this note wishing for better times with less tension.
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Actually, you are correct, but you have the year wrong. We are back in 1955, where racism was dominant and one side was shouted down. There was no equality then and we are headed in the same direction now.
 
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I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned this but I think we need to have a statue of Smokey I out front of the stadium.

Talk about an enduring legacy here at UT. His family has been with us through ups and downs for well over a half century now! Why is he not being mentioned? He represents the entire state!
 
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^^^ I can get behind this.Smokey rocks.

Half my siblings are black and half are white. We are all people. We are all full of life, love, and we are all sinners who fall short of the example of Jesus Christ every single day.

We are so tired of statues, any article or speech or policy or ANYTHING else based on race. Dividing people based on race, politics, sex, age or any other means is a tool of authority, those in power, those whose evil deeds which have not yet been exposed need everyones attention focused on ANYTHING but what they are up to.....and most of all dividing folks and pitting us against eachother is a tool of the " father of lies" himself. The evil one himself.

Race crap, identity politics, cancel culture, socialism, ignorance and the intentional LOWERING of academic standards in our schools.....this country is going to Hell in a handbasket faster every day...and when each of us get to our final destination what color our pitiful skins were will mean just as much as it does today.

Absolutely nothing. Go Vols.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Maybe you should be grateful that you’ve never had to endure the things that marginalized groups have had to endure. Since you can’t even endure their recognition.

Rest assured, if these men were as weak and pathetic as you, they’d never have accomplished enough to merit this honor. Fortunately, they’re better than you.
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Huh? He said they deserved recognition in their own right. But anyway, Im glad you’re here to assign people who you don’t even know their correct spots on the victim totem pole.
 
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#139
peaygolf said:
Jackie Walker should be in the College Hall of Fame, for the simple fact that he was a stud football player.

5 ints returned for TD's as a linebacker and a 2X All-American.

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I wasn’t familiar with Jackie Walker’s work, but WOW! Gone too soon.

Before there was No. 52 Michael Sam, there was No. 52 Jackie Walker
 
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volsknx said:
I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned this but I think we need to have a statue of Smokey I out front of the stadium.

Talk about an enduring legacy here at UT. His family has been with us through ups and downs for well over a half century now! Why is he not being mentioned? He represents the entire state!
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You know there’s about a dozen Smokey statues in campus, right?
 
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#142
How about statues for academic achievement by minorities?.....oh wait this is a university...sorry....
 
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Pappy said:
How about statues for academic achievement by minorities?.....oh wait this is a university...sorry....
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I mean there’s Theotis Robinson Hall.

Not a statue, but it might be my favorite name for a dorm ever.

Min Kao EE Department is pretty dope too.
 
#145
#145
volsknx said:
I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned this but I think we need to have a statue of Smokey I out front of the stadium.

Talk about an enduring legacy here at UT. His family has been with us through ups and downs for well over a half century now! Why is he not being mentioned? He represents the entire state!
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#147
I'm fine with statues of prominent players being placed throughout the campus, street corners, etc. Regardless of their color, race whatever. Racism and those ideals will never disappear until we quit factoring them into any discussion or debate. As long as they are brought up, they continue to move forward to the next day. I'm not saying ignore it, but to ensure that statues such as this aren't based on race or due to it. Place statues of Jason Witten, peerless price, Willie gault, Todd Helton. If they excelled, Tennessee has the money to pay for a statue for each of them. Not just for a publicity stunt, a social justice or any objective, other than honoring past players. That's the goal in the end, to see each other as a person, not as a color.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
I understand that lowering ourselves to racial pandering in the name of some purely theoretical goal like recruiting success does not bother you whatsoever, but you aren't exactly selling the idea that they "encompassed both objectives" when you acknowledge that no hypothetical recruit is going to know what these men did for UT football without reducing their contributions to some narrative about their race.
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That's why they're being honored so recruits and fans alike will know of their accomplishments.
 
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#150
Hacksaw said:
What I said is that until we stop dividing ourselves based on arbitrary physical characteristics, we're never going to advance as a species. You viewed that statement to be sooo controversial that it required a short lecture about diversity.

Frankly, I love diversity. But I really don't have faith that we are capable of dealing with it. I think it would be better if we just all had sex with different races until we are all one homogenous hue. Of course, then we'd divide ourselves based on eye color, height, left-handed vs. right-handed. There will always be people who want to divide us.

MLK said we should strive to create a color-blind society, where we are all judged based on the content of our character. The loudest voices for diversity today clearly no longer believe in that. It's sad.
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Look no further than the NFL, who announced they would be playing the "black national anthem" before every game this season. Now, first of all, the very fact they are calling it "the black national anthem" is immediately divisive in that when you insert skin color into the description, you're automatically sending a message to all non-black people "this ain't for you ". How in hell is that unifying? I don't recall anyone EVER referring to The Star Spangled Banner as "the white national anthem". And why do some feel the need to even HAVE a national anthem that's separate from our country's actual official one? There is nothing about our national anthem that would suggest exclusion or division at all. At some point people need to take a long honest look at themselves in the mirror and ask if they are truly interested in unity or are they just interested in being antithetical to EVERY SINGLE custom/value/tradition this country was built on?
 
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