New coach. New initiatives for the LV Forum?

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With renewed interest in the basketball program (I was amazed to see how much positive is being posted in the Recruiting Football Talk VIII thread) we can expect new and returning posters to "ride the opine" during and after LV games.

Since we're definitely writing of a new chapter in the program's history, maybe this is a good opportunity to improve the Forum experience, update some game thread traditions, or simply lobby for better behavior (that's "lobby for"--not "call out" or "demand").

Let's be frank--the Lady Vol forum has gained a reputation for prickliness and lack of diplomacy between posters. We could incite a bar fight in a nunnery! No one can or should control what people post, but we can all control how we respond. As an admired friend gently encouraged her husband recently, "Hon, you're reacting, not responding."

Back to Positives: Are there features or emphases that have been lost over time, that would be nice to have in the forum again? Maybe years ago someone who has since passed, or is no longer active, used to post something regularly that y'all miss. It's your forum--take ownership. Make this a place more Lady Vol supporters look forward to visiting.

Without turning this into a church planning committee... are there things people might volunteer to post on a continuing basis?
I'll make my offer in a following post.

(...and please, if your first thought is to respond to this with "knee-jerk rancor is what forums are for," first ask yourself: Why would I want to encourage worse behavior instead of better? Do I actually enjoy disliking the people where I choose to hang out?)
 
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CKC has repeatedly told us to anticipate on-court improvement between now and January. I think that lends itself to charting specific stats to monitor that growth game-to-game.

If someone will hook me up with a website that posts detailed and reliable game stats, I'll be glad to produce graphs and update them after each game.

Which stats do y'all think will prove most pertinent to tracking our development toward SEC competition? My first thoughts are: team shot attempts, team steals, turnover ratio, REBOUNDSšŸ˜‰, and 3-point shooting percentage. What else?

Maybe, if done well enough and well enough received, Freak will consider giving it sticky status.
 
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I think itā€™ll help the forum if we have dedicated threads for highly talked about teams!

I think itā€™ll clean up some of the threads and also provide a place for people that arenā€™t all Lady Vol and donā€™t mind discussing other teams, to enjoy.

I know we have the ā€œNon Lady Volā€ thread, but it can get hazy when we talk about so much there.

For example we have a thread title South Carolina Gamecocks, LSU Tigers, UCONN Huskiesā€¦.etc. All discussions dealing with that particular team can go in that thread and stay the course. Just a suggestion.
 
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With renewed interest in the basketball program (I was amazed to see how much positive is being posted in the Recruiting Football Talk VIII thread) we can expect new and returning posters to "ride the opine" during and after LV games.

Since we're definitely writing of a new chapter in the program's history, maybe this is a good opportunity to improve the Forum experience, update some game thread traditions, or simply lobby for better behavior (that's "lobby for"--not "call out" or "demand").

Let's be frank--the Lady Vol forum has gained a reputation for prickliness and lack of diplomacy between posters. We could incite a bar fight in a nunnery! No one can or should control what people post, but we can all control how we respond. As an admired friend gently encouraged her husband recently, "Hon, you're reacting, not responding."

Back to Positives: Are there features or emphases that have been lost over time, that would be nice to have in the forum again? Maybe years ago someone who has since passed, or is no longer active, used to post something regularly that y'all miss. It's your forum--take ownership. Make this a place more Lady Vol supporters look forward to visiting.

Without turning this into a church planning committee... are there things people might volunteer to post on a continuing basis?
I'll make my offer in a following post.

(...and please, if your first thought is to respond to this with "knee-jerk rancor is what forums are for," first ask yourself: Why would I want to encourage worse behavior instead of better? Do I actually enjoy disliking the people where I choose to hang out?)
Iā€™m thinking a thread for insightful articles on womenā€™s basketball. Ones that are credible and based on detailed observations of the current scene with reflections on the history of the gameā€¦.which goes waaaaayyyyy back.
 
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I think itā€™ll help the forum if we have dedicated threads for highly talked about teams!

I think itā€™ll clean up some of the threads and also provide a place for people that arenā€™t all Lady Vol and donā€™t mind discussing other teams, to enjoy.

I know we have the ā€œNon Lady Volā€ thread, but it can get hazy when we talk about so much there.

For example we have a thread title South Carolina Gamecocks, LSU Tigers, UCONN Huskiesā€¦.etc. All discussions dealing with that particular team can go in that thread and stay the course. Just a suggestion.
A thread for our long-time rivals.
 
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CKC has repeatedly told us to anticipate on-court improvement between now and January. I think that lends itself to charting specific stats to monitor that growth game-to-game.

If someone will hook me up with a website that posts detailed and reliable game stats, I'll be glad to produce graphs and update them after each game.

Which stats do y'all think will prove most pertinent to tracking our development toward SEC competition? My first thoughts are: team shot attempts, team steals, turnover ratio, REBOUNDSšŸ˜‰, and 3-point shooting percentage. What else?

Maybe, if done well enough and well enough received, Freak will consider giving it sticky status.
Follow player progress too?
 
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CKC has repeatedly told us to anticipate on-court improvement between now and January. I think that lends itself to charting specific stats to monitor that growth game-to-game.

If someone will hook me up with a website that posts detailed and reliable game stats, I'll be glad to produce graphs and update them after each game.

Which stats do y'all think will prove most pertinent to tracking our development toward SEC competition? My first thoughts are: team shot attempts, team steals, turnover ratio, REBOUNDSšŸ˜‰, and 3-point shooting percentage. What else?

Maybe, if done well enough and well enough received, Freak will consider giving it sticky status.
I think a thread for specific teams is a great idea. Example : "South Carolina '24-25 Team Discussion" "LSU '24-25 Team Discussion" and so on. Allows for all discussion and input for a specific program to go into that thread.
 
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I think a thread for specific teams is a great idea. Example : "South Carolina '24-25 Team Discussion" "LSU '24-25 Team Discussion" and so on. Allows for all discussion and input for a specific program to go into that thread.
The Boneyard has a non-UConn forum with threads from many different schools, including Tennessee. Just click on the UConn Boneyard, and at the top of the main page click on "Non-UConn" basketball forum. All fans, from all schools are welcome to post and engage in the discussions.
 
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While I've not been generally active on here recently, I am going to chime in here and say that while i think threads for tracking stats or whatever is mostly harmless, I don't think the forum needs threads for specific topics, or to compartmentalize conversations or steer conversations into specific places. The thread for this, the thread for that. That inevitably turns into people policing other people for not "posting in the right thread." Which is uninviting and byzantine - and I strongly advocate against that. Forums are open, they should be a place for people to talk as they want, in any form, at least up to the point of ill intent or undermining the spirit of the message board. I've been on this internet for 30 years, I've seen a lot of forums. Honestly, this place is already one of the more active ones for this sport. Maybe the most active, I'm not sure, but it's close. I don't ... advocate ... messing with it.

All the forum really needs is for people to not be jackasses. And frankly, there's no rule for that aside from "don't be a jackass." Well, actually, now that I think about it, that's somewhere in the rules for VolNation, but, you know, who actually reads the EULA? So. Anyway. My two cents.

Oh - one extra cent though - if anyone starts a dedicated space for UConn on here I will riot. I don't know you how you do that on a message board, but I will riot.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
 
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Hope they are better but there is a lot to prove before real belief is there
 
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The Boneyard has a non-UConn forum with threads from many different schools, including Tennessee. Just click on the UConn Boneyard, and at the top of the main page click on "Non-UConn" basketball forum. All fans, from all schools are welcome to post and engage in the discussions.
Iā€™m well aware, hence why I mentioned it for us to do something on THIS forum, not the Boneyard.
 
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In the current moderators I trust. Don't think we need more.

Only change I'd get behind is a no board on board rule, or maybe a board on board thread. We spend about as much time talking about who posts what and why as we do actual LV talk. I wish we weren't allowed to do that.

Definitely would be against a seperate thread for each team. 95% would never get a post and having all those idle thread would just clog up the opening pg. The current non LV thread works fine for that.
 
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I think itā€™ll help the forum if we have dedicated threads for highly talked about teams!

I think itā€™ll clean up some of the threads and also provide a place for people that arenā€™t all Lady Vol and donā€™t mind discussing other teams, to enjoy.

I know we have the ā€œNon Lady Volā€ thread, but it can get hazy when we talk about so much there.

For example we have a thread title South Carolina Gamecocks, LSU Tigers, UCONN Huskiesā€¦.etc. All discussions dealing with that particular team can go in that thread and stay the course. Just a suggestion.

It will not clean up any of the threads. For as long as this forum has existed people have posted will nilly wherever the like. General threads do ok.

Specific threads die a quick and tragic death. Mostly because fans of other schools wonā€™t stay in their threads. South Carolina and UCONN fans cannot help themselves around here.

God forbid you post out of turn on the boneyard though šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
 
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While I've not been generally active on here recently, I am going to chime in here and say that while i think threads for tracking stats or whatever is mostly harmless, I don't think the forum needs threads for specific topics, or to compartmentalize conversations or steer conversations into specific places. The thread for this, the thread for that. That inevitably turns into people policing other people for not "posting in the right thread." Which is uninviting and byzantine - and I strongly advocate against that. Forums are open, they should be a place for people to talk as they want, in any form, at least up to the point of ill intent or undermining the spirit of the message board. I've been on this internet for 30 years, I've seen a lot of forums. Honestly, this place is already one of the more active ones for this sport. Maybe the most active, I'm not sure, but it's close. I don't ... advocate ... messing with it.

All the forum really needs is for people to not be jackasses. And frankly, there's no rule for that aside from "don't be a jackass." Well, actually, now that I think about it, that's somewhere in the rules for VolNation, but, you know, who actually reads the EULA? So. Anyway. My two cents.

Oh - one extra cent though - if anyone starts a dedicated space for UConn on here I will riot. I don't know you how you do that on a message board, but I will riot.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

Great post, said what I was thinking much better.

And DITTO NO UCONN THREADS LOL.

The Non-Lady Vol Thread has carried on strong for several years now and serves as a good place for Lady Vol and Non-Lady Vol fans to have their discourse.

When I originally made that thread it was actually intended to discuss other teams just in general. Iā€™m a fan of the sport across the board and always enjoyed talking Baylor with BUBear and a few other teams with other posters.

I do miss BUBear who left us when Mulkey left Waco. He/she was always a quality poster.
 
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One thing I would prefer to see go back to how it was is in the old days is: protecting the recruiting threads better. When I first joined this site under my original handle in 2007-08 you didnā€™t DARE post in a recruiting thread unless you had true, valued information and a reputation to back it up.

Now itā€™s all garbage, and I admit Iā€™m guilty of contributing to it. Mostly by antagonizing posters like Jumper who claim to have information they just donā€™t or push athletes non-stop who are clearly not UT level talent.
 
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Specific threads die a quick and tragic death. Mostly because fans of other schools wonā€™t stay in their threads. South Carolina and UCONN fans cannot help themselves around here.

God forbid you post out of turn on the boneyard though
SC and UConn fans should be able to post in any thread they want as long as it's on topic for that thread. I'm not aware of any rule that says they have to stay in the non lv news thread. The last thing we need is to become the freakin boneyard. Let's stay inclusive.

There is another board for those who only want curated LV sunshine lollipops and rainbows. Maybe join that board instead of trying to change this one? This board is so small, esp in the offseason, that wondering away fm topic etc is bound to happen. Just doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
 
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SC and UConn fans should be able to post in any thread they want as long as it's on topic for that thread. I'm not aware of any rule that says they have to stay in the non lv news thread. The last thing we need is to become the freakin boneyard.

We need to keep in mind that there is another board for those who only want LV sunshine lollipops and rainbows. Some should go to Maria's board and stop trying to make this board into that.

For sure, no issue with that. The South Carolina fans are generally really good about this outside of one poster. (Probably that weirdo Deloris lmao).

The UCONN fans are another story entirely. There are less than there used to be, thankfully, but they have almost no ability to engage in a topic without spewing UCONN bile all over it.

My post was simply pointing out that specific fandom threads have been tried and failed here before. The posters from other schools donā€™t keep them going, theyā€™d rather post about their school in Lady Vol threads. Which is fine, annoying, but fine.
 
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For sure, no issue with that. The South Carolina fans are generally really good about this outside of one poster. (Probably that weirdo Deloris lmao).

The UCONN fans are another story entirely. There are less than there used to be, thankfully, but they have almost no ability to engage in a topic without spewing UCONN bile all over it.

Yep. You talk about hateful.
 

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